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OMG just woke up today and came to see all these new developments. ESF is badass sticking up for GOM <3
Seriously, I was gonna post yesterday in the OSL Tournament day 1 thread saying it'd be awesome if the GSL players didn't show up to stick it to Kespa for not cooperating, but i figured i'd get banned and the chances of that actually happening to be unlikely.
Still though, wasn't it expected for Kespa players to participate in Season 5 GSL if they didn't come for Season 4? That just implies that Kespa was planning on not allowing their players to attend GOM tournaments for quite a while...
I gotta agree with what someone said earlier, it's either season 4 or bust for Kespa.
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On August 25 2012 01:10 Ghoststrikes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 01:06 Shady Sands wrote:On August 25 2012 01:05 Ghoststrikes wrote:
I hope the ESL maintains their stand in relation to OSL, or at least say they will participate in the next one too. Do no cave in! DO it for foreigner, do it for Gom! I know I will be watching the fuck out of GSL season 4! Unfortunately foreigners are not the main thing here. The Korean market is still a lot more important and GOM has much less traction there. You should still remember that OGN is pretty much how 90% of Korean progaming gets watched (regardless of what game it is). Yes sure Gom has less traction for Korean viewership, but much more for international audience. The game is global, there are big events all over the world, etc. If Kespa/OGN continues to do selfish moves like this they will not gain any support from foreigners, which will be their loss.
And you need to understand Kespa does not care about losses involving foreigners and has zero interest in listening to opinions outside of Korea.
It's the market in Korea that it cares about and that is why what ESF is doing right now is so important. ESF needs to continue to hold their position until Kespa gives in.
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On August 25 2012 01:12 Cornstarched wrote:
Here is the quick and 3 week Fix. ALL tournaments in the world, BAN KESPA. If the players want to play they can leave that team or orginization or whatever the hell kespa truly is.Basicly a huge boycott. I never watched any sc1, and now learning about this kespa thing forcing players to do things, is why sc1 never made it big in the world.
For the sc2 Community to allow this orginization to do these things, is a joke. We are the INTERNET, and we can do ANYTHING and make corporations/companys/orginizations to do what the mass people want. WE WANT KESPA PLAYERS IN EVERY TOURNY. Period.
Incontrol said it right a long time ago. IF i go to an MLG i want to see Bisu or Flash or JayDong. and not allowing thoes players hurts the sc2 community and DE Legitimiz's our Sport.
Ban Kespa Dissolve it. Its old news and needs to be reborn into the thing we call the 21st century
Sigh. 3 week "Fix", are you serious? You are aware that if these players would "leave" kespa, they would also leave their teams, these teams arent any foreign or current GSTL Team, these teams actually have alot of money and big sponsors.
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Well played to ESF, great move sticking up for GOM and a great statement from them..
I'm hoping the OSL can go ahead as normal now, and that for the time being Kespa can play friendly with everyone else!
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On August 25 2012 01:12 Cornstarched wrote:
Here is the quick and 3 week Fix. ALL tournaments in the world, BAN KESPA. If the players want to play they can leave that team or orginization or whatever the hell kespa truly is.Basicly a huge boycott. I never watched any sc1, and now learning about this kespa thing forcing players to do things, is why sc1 never made it big in the world.
For the sc2 Community to allow this orginization to do these things, is a joke. We are the INTERNET, and we can do ANYTHING and make corporations/companys/orginizations to do what the mass people want. WE WANT KESPA PLAYERS IN EVERY TOURNY. Period.
Incontrol said it right a long time ago. IF i go to an MLG i want to see Bisu or Flash or JayDong. and not allowing thoes players hurts the sc2 community and DE Legitimiz's our Sport.
Ban Kespa Dissolve it. Its old news and needs to be reborn into the thing we call the 21st century
JAYDONG
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On August 25 2012 01:12 Cornstarched wrote:
Here is the quick and 3 week Fix. ALL tournaments in the world, BAN KESPA. If the players want to play they can leave that team or orginization or whatever the hell kespa truly is.Basicly a huge boycott. I never watched any sc1, and now learning about this kespa thing forcing players to do things, is why sc1 never made it big in the world.
For the sc2 Community to allow this orginization to do these things, is a joke. We are the INTERNET, and we can do ANYTHING and make corporations/companys/orginizations to do what the mass people want. WE WANT KESPA PLAYERS IN EVERY TOURNY. Period.
Incontrol said it right a long time ago. IF i go to an MLG i want to see Bisu or Flash or JayDong. and not allowing thoes players hurts the sc2 community and DE Legitimiz's our Sport.
Ban Kespa Dissolve it. Its old news and needs to be reborn into the thing we call the 21st century
You do know KeSPA was born in 21st century, do you? By this standard, KeSPA qualifies.
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On August 25 2012 01:15 TriZen wrote:
Well played to ESF, great move sticking up for GOM and a great statement from them..
I'm hoping the OSL can go ahead as normal now, and that for the time being Kespa can play friendly with everyone else!
KeSPA is going to remember this btw. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the death squeeze on the GSL by simply getting their most popular players to not participate.
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On August 25 2012 01:05 xrapture wrote:
Eh, to me, Gom just seemed like an amateur league to hold the reigns until Kespa switched to SC2.
It's called the Global Dishwasher's League for a reason. While all this fighting has been tearjerking, it's just delaying the inevitable. Dishwasher referred to the players participating and the relation to the function they had in bw teams, not the league (quality). I don't care what gom is to you, or what you may foresee, please don't go mixing things up.
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Ernie: Yo Bert I've been real busy lately i can't make it to your party.
Bert: What the fuck Ernie i thought you were attending. I ain't ever going to your parties ever again.
Ernie: Bert! I'll be at your next one i swear!
Bert: __________________________________(fill in the blanks)
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Should get the agreement in writing, stored in a top security vault in an unknown Country.
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Wait so ESF does the same thing as KESPA in controlling where their players play and gets praised O_o
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Gom should give out Seeds and unless KeSPA accepts, game over.
Honestly, KeSPA is not improving their image one bit.
Not showing up at MLG Summer Championship...another blow.
Do they know what partnership means?
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On August 25 2012 01:18 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 01:15 TriZen wrote:
Well played to ESF, great move sticking up for GOM and a great statement from them..
I'm hoping the OSL can go ahead as normal now, and that for the time being Kespa can play friendly with everyone else! KeSPA is going to remember this btw. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the death squeeze on the GSL by simply getting their most popular players to not participate.
FXOboss is worried on twitter if they participate in season 5 they could leave in the middle to mess up GOM. Though that would only mess up code A so GOM might be able to work around that while code S keeps its integrety.
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On August 25 2012 01:22 ShadeR wrote:
Ernie: Yo Bert I've been real busy lately i can't make it to your party.
Bert: What the fuck Ernie i thought you were attending. I ain't ever going to your parties ever again.
Ernie: Bert! I'll be at your next one i swear!
Bert: __________________________________(fill in the blanks)
Bert: But you said the exact same thing last time!
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On August 25 2012 01:26 Taku wrote:
Wait so ESF does the same thing as KESPA in controlling where their players play and gets praised O_o
lol, ESF is more like a players/team association. The players themselves made this decision (ie. Players like MC, Oz are not in ESF and they sided with GOM.)
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On August 25 2012 01:22 ShadeR wrote:
Ernie: Yo Bert I've been real busy lately i can't make it to your party.
Bert: What the fuck Ernie i thought you were attending. I ain't ever going to your parties ever again.
Ernie: Bert! I'll be at your next one i swear!
Bert: __________________________________(fill in the blanks)
"You've been busy for the last five fucking years!"
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On August 25 2012 01:30 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 01:26 Taku wrote:
Wait so ESF does the same thing as KESPA in controlling where their players play and gets praised O_o lol, ESF is more like a players/team association. The players themselves made this decision (ie. Players like MC, Oz are not in ESF and they sided with GOM.)
And on top of that, it was done in retaliation, not the aggressor.
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On August 25 2012 01:26 Taku wrote:
Wait so ESF does the same thing as KESPA in controlling where their players play and gets praised O_o
ESF decisions are made BY THE PLAYERS. KeSPA's are made by the executives at the top with no consulting of the players.
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On August 25 2012 01:28 coolcor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 01:18 Shady Sands wrote:On August 25 2012 01:15 TriZen wrote:
Well played to ESF, great move sticking up for GOM and a great statement from them..
I'm hoping the OSL can go ahead as normal now, and that for the time being Kespa can play friendly with everyone else! KeSPA is going to remember this btw. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the death squeeze on the GSL by simply getting their most popular players to not participate. FXOboss is worried on twitter if the participate in season 5 they could leave in the middle to mess up GOM. Though that would only mess up code A so GOM might be able to work around that while code S keeps its integrety.
Well, I think ESF players need to win this OSL. If they do, they will get A LOT more leverage. I don't see OSL starting the next season if their defending champ won't participate.
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