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On August 25 2012 01:22 ShadeR wrote:
Ernie: Yo Bert I've been real busy lately i can't make it to your party.
Bert: What the fuck Ernie i thought you were attending. I ain't ever going to your parties ever again.
Ernie: Bert! I'll be at your next one i swear!
Bert: __________________________________(fill in the blanks)
Ernie, your dick much bigger and girlfriend much hotter, I'm sorry pal, I overreacted.
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I fucking hope it is abundantly clear that there needs to be a player association, you can't let one party (i.e KeSPA) exert such control on a scene that affects so many.
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The ESF can't back down here. They absolutely need to, as many others have said, say "Ok, then we're boycotting this OSL but we'll join in next time". If they don't, this whole mess will happen again and KeSPA will have the time they need to ensure they have additional leverage when this DOES happen again.
If they re-commit to the OSL without getting participation in GSL Season 4 as a return, there's a huge problem here.
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On August 25 2012 01:05 xrapture wrote:
Eh, to me, Gom just seemed like an amateur league to hold the reigns until Kespa switched to SC2.
It's called the Global Dishwasher's League for a reason. While all this fighting has been tearjerking, it's just delaying the inevitable.
If the GSL seems like an amateur league to you then what is your opinion regarding the professionalism of tournaments like MLG, IPL, etc?
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On August 24 2012 22:19 imallinson wrote:That first article suggests that the reason the Kespa players weren't participating in GSL was scheduling issues. I assume something has been worked out so that it fits with the OSL and SPL schedules.
GOM is admittedly much more last minute when it comes to announcing dates for qualifiers and the final dates for tournaments. Sometimes a date isn't announced until just over a week before. If KESPA has a well maintained and set schedule that goes over 4 weeks deep, GOM needs to keep up so that there can be no excuses. This might actually be good for GOM events, as spectators can get more information in advance about events.
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On August 25 2012 01:22 ShadeR wrote:
Ernie: Yo Bert I've been real busy lately i can't make it to your party.
Bert: What the fuck Ernie i thought you were attending. I ain't ever going to your parties ever again.
Ernie: Bert! I'll be at your next one i swear!
Bert: __________________________________(fill in the blanks)
Bert: Wait... you weren't planning to come to my next party either? WTF MAN, i thought we were friends, I already came to ur party, I'm just saying I may have to leave early if you don't get ur ass to my party coming up where everyone is expecting u to be at.
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Still one more season 
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Oh cool. Season 5 GSL? Okay then. You'll see ESF players in Season 2 OSL.
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On August 25 2012 01:05 xrapture wrote:
Eh, to me, Gom just seemed like an amateur league to hold the reigns until Kespa switched to SC2.
It's called the Global Dishwasher's League for a reason. While all this fighting has been tearjerking, it's just delaying the inevitable.
Rest assured that your opinion is in the minority, at least in these forums. 
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On August 25 2012 01:05 xrapture wrote:
Eh, to me, Gom just seemed like an amateur league to hold the reigns until Kespa switched to SC2.
It's called the Global Dishwasher's League for a reason. While all this fighting has been tearjerking, it's just delaying the inevitable.
Lol, you seemed to be butthurt because the supposedly superior game you were supporting with all your heart (BW) just died...
Just to clarify, I am all for kespa players doing well in SC2. But I don't see it as Kespa or nothing. We can have two league (OSL and GSL), an unified team league, koreans going to foreign tournaments and the best players (whether Kespa, ESF or foreigners) being able to make a good living and showing us good game.
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On August 25 2012 01:36 Lordanubis wrote:
The ESF can't back down here. They absolutely need to, as many others have said, say "Ok, then we're boycotting this OSL but we'll join in next time". If they don't, this whole mess will happen again and KeSPA will have the time they need to ensure they have additional leverage when this DOES happen again.
If they re-commit to the OSL without getting participation in GSL Season 4 as a return, there's a huge problem here.
Agreed. Hopefully ESF will follow.
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On August 25 2012 01:44 pms wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 01:36 Lordanubis wrote:
The ESF can't back down here. They absolutely need to, as many others have said, say "Ok, then we're boycotting this OSL but we'll join in next time". If they don't, this whole mess will happen again and KeSPA will have the time they need to ensure they have additional leverage when this DOES happen again.
If they re-commit to the OSL without getting participation in GSL Season 4 as a return, there's a huge problem here. Agreed. Hopefully ESF will follow.
They won't. ESF is a lot less unified than KeSPA is, and I think this move from KeSPA throws just enough doubt into the minds of the player collective that it will keep them from a firm decision like that.
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ESF players will hopefully continue to boycot this OSL season. KeSPA needs to feel it. And they also only said they will go for Season 5..
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Dustin Browder and Mike Morhaime should fly out there and spank some KeSPA ass. Literally.
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On August 25 2012 01:45 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 01:44 pms wrote:On August 25 2012 01:36 Lordanubis wrote:
The ESF can't back down here. They absolutely need to, as many others have said, say "Ok, then we're boycotting this OSL but we'll join in next time". If they don't, this whole mess will happen again and KeSPA will have the time they need to ensure they have additional leverage when this DOES happen again.
If they re-commit to the OSL without getting participation in GSL Season 4 as a return, there's a huge problem here. Agreed. Hopefully ESF will follow. They won't. ESF is a lot less unified than KeSPA is, and I think this move from KeSPA throws just enough doubt into the minds of the player collective that it will keep them from a firm decision like that.
lol, ESF seems pretty unified when they called KeSPA's bluff within 24 hours with commitment from non-ESF players (MC and Oz). If anything, the Kespa players don't seem to like Kespa's call since they were looking forward to the qualifiers.
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On August 25 2012 01:48 Kevan wrote:
Dustin Browder and Mike Morhaime should fly out there and spank some KeSPA ass. Literally.
Kind of not Dustin's responsibility. And unfortunately Mike is probably too busy negotiating the sale of his company to care very much.
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On August 25 2012 01:45 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 01:44 pms wrote:On August 25 2012 01:36 Lordanubis wrote:
The ESF can't back down here. They absolutely need to, as many others have said, say "Ok, then we're boycotting this OSL but we'll join in next time". If they don't, this whole mess will happen again and KeSPA will have the time they need to ensure they have additional leverage when this DOES happen again.
If they re-commit to the OSL without getting participation in GSL Season 4 as a return, there's a huge problem here. Agreed. Hopefully ESF will follow. They won't. ESF is a lot less unified than KeSPA is, and I think this move from KeSPA throws just enough doubt into the minds of the player collective that it will keep them from a firm decision like that.
KeSPA isn't unified, they just rule with an iron fist. Plenty of players are discontent with this decision, they just can't disobey or they will get the smack down laid upon them.
ESF is doing this of their own free will and for self preservation. They likely will not cave.
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On August 24 2012 22:15 X3GoldDot wrote:
ESF should say that they wont participate in this osl and only in the next osl as well lol
I kinda agree, kespa just seems to be a greedy organisation :/
am i wrong?
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