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KeSPA Agrees to Participate in GSL Season 5 - Page 11

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Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
August 24 2012 15:47 GMT
#201
So what's going to happen to the OSL thing in relation to the eSF?
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
August 24 2012 15:48 GMT
#202
On August 25 2012 00:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
And there was much rejoicing!

*monotone yay*

But seriously this is awesome . I may actually buy a GSL ticket for the first time lol so I can watch all of the games.

llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#203
On August 24 2012 23:50 figq wrote:
Imagine, Kespa didn't publish any statement about not participating in GSL 4, but because of schedule conflicts, team obligations and PL, only few, not top-notch Kespa players took part in the GSL. It would have been still fine! Even though, technically, that shows disrespect to the GSL, it would not have caused all this trouble. We would have gotten a few elephant matches to discuss, Kespa teams would've managed with PL fine etc. Why did they have to create such a major statement and totalitarian position of it.


Honestly, KeSPA's logic is all around stupid.

"we have three players in WCS, four teams in PL and 8 players in OSL, so we decided to forbid every player participation in GSL"
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
August 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#204
On August 25 2012 00:45 MstrJinbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:37 odaxium wrote:
So this doesn't actually change anything.

Kespa are still not going to participate in GSL4 and they get ESF plays to continue OSL


Kespa basically announced that it will participate in the GSL season 5. Kespa laid down a concrete time where they will participate in GSL. It's a victory for the esf. They should take it and return to the OSL. For the fans.


If you knew anything about Kespa and its history, you would not be saying that...
Kespa annoucing that it will participate in the GSL season 5 does not mean it has to.
Kespa can and will break its "promise" to see GSL flop.
It's not a victory for the esf. until Kespa participates in the current GSL season 4.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
August 24 2012 15:50 GMT
#205
Im guessing blizzard had something to do with this
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
August 24 2012 15:50 GMT
#206
On August 25 2012 00:48 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
And there was much rejoicing!

*monotone yay*

But seriously this is awesome . I may actually buy a GSL ticket for the first time lol so I can watch all of the games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTZctTG6cE

Why, just why?? T_T

I quote one of the greatest comedies made, and you bring up this show for 10 year-old girls. Why, I implore?
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 24 2012 15:53 GMT
#207
On August 25 2012 00:45 MstrJinbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:37 odaxium wrote:
So this doesn't actually change anything.

Kespa are still not going to participate in GSL4 and they get ESF plays to continue OSL


Kespa basically announced that it will participate in the GSL season 5. Kespa laid down a concrete time where they will participate in GSL. It's a victory for the esf. They should take it and return to the OSL. For the fans.

ur kidding right? all they wanted is the kespa vs gom player storyline for themselves and they will still be getting it and they will just pull out at season 6, what ur saying will kill gom
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
August 24 2012 15:53 GMT
#208
but what about GSL season 4? i feel like this is just a bait and switch, they'll get the ESF players to participate in this OSL which they've invested in already, then when GSL season 5 rolls around, KeSPA can just throw out another WHOOPS scheduling conflict!

cmon
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
August 24 2012 15:55 GMT
#209
On August 25 2012 00:49 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:45 MstrJinbo wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:37 odaxium wrote:
So this doesn't actually change anything.

Kespa are still not going to participate in GSL4 and they get ESF plays to continue OSL


Kespa basically announced that it will participate in the GSL season 5. Kespa laid down a concrete time where they will participate in GSL. It's a victory for the esf. They should take it and return to the OSL. For the fans.


If you knew anything about Kespa and its history, you would not be saying that...
Kespa annoucing that it will participate in the GSL season 5 does not mean it has to.
Kespa can and will break its "promise" to see GSL flop.
It's not a victory for the esf. until Kespa participates in the current GSL season 4.


I want the sc2 OSL to go forward. So I'm perfectly fine with giveing Kespa the benefit of the doubt on this one while keeping my trident close at hand.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
August 24 2012 15:55 GMT
#210
I don't see this as KeSPA going back in their position, it's just KeSPA clarifying their position. They said they wouldn't be participating in these next Code A qualifiers and people assumed they would never participate in GSL at all. Now they're just saying that they won't participate in GSL 4, as stated previously, but they will participate in GSL 5.

Whether or not this is true or not, though, is a different issue altogether.
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
August 24 2012 15:55 GMT
#211
People seem quick to accept this. I'm still wary. It's a while before season 5.
Team owner of team QTLing
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
August 24 2012 15:56 GMT
#212
well I honestly don't give 2 flying fucks about KeSPA players not participating in GSL since I love my GSL homies and there are already plenty of talents on GOM's side. SC2 in Korea will continue to live on without KeSPA, in fact KeSPA needs to be destroyed for SC2's sake.

"When KeSPA is in ashes, you have my permission to [broadcast SC2]".
Ketroc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada74 Posts
August 24 2012 15:56 GMT
#213
So OSL finishes before GSL season 5, right? Good thing Kespa has a reputation of never breaking a promise.
SC2 Videos: www.youtube.com/ketroc SC2 Stream: www.twitch.tv/ketroc
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
August 24 2012 15:58 GMT
#214
On August 25 2012 00:55 MstrJinbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:49 Frost wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:45 MstrJinbo wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:37 odaxium wrote:
So this doesn't actually change anything.

Kespa are still not going to participate in GSL4 and they get ESF plays to continue OSL


Kespa basically announced that it will participate in the GSL season 5. Kespa laid down a concrete time where they will participate in GSL. It's a victory for the esf. They should take it and return to the OSL. For the fans.


If you knew anything about Kespa and its history, you would not be saying that...
Kespa annoucing that it will participate in the GSL season 5 does not mean it has to.
Kespa can and will break its "promise" to see GSL flop.
It's not a victory for the esf. until Kespa participates in the current GSL season 4.


I want the sc2 OSL to go forward. So I'm perfectly fine with giveing Kespa the benefit of the doubt on this one while keeping my trident close at hand.

Yeah I think this resolves the issue for now and allows for everyone to participate in OSL. They can boycott the next OSL if KeSPA indeed doesn't participate in GSL 5, but for now I think it would be very detrimental to the scene if they wouldn't play in the first SC2 OSL. They got a concrete date, I think that's all that's needed for now.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 24 2012 15:58 GMT
#215
On August 25 2012 00:55 MstrJinbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:49 Frost wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:45 MstrJinbo wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:37 odaxium wrote:
So this doesn't actually change anything.

Kespa are still not going to participate in GSL4 and they get ESF plays to continue OSL


Kespa basically announced that it will participate in the GSL season 5. Kespa laid down a concrete time where they will participate in GSL. It's a victory for the esf. They should take it and return to the OSL. For the fans.


If you knew anything about Kespa and its history, you would not be saying that...
Kespa annoucing that it will participate in the GSL season 5 does not mean it has to.
Kespa can and will break its "promise" to see GSL flop.
It's not a victory for the esf. until Kespa participates in the current GSL season 4.


I want the sc2 OSL to go forward. So I'm perfectly fine with giveing Kespa the benefit of the doubt on this one while keeping my trident close at hand.

ur not keeping ur trident close at hand ur giving it to kespa then sitting there tied up in front of them
nickbalev
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria241 Posts
August 24 2012 15:59 GMT
#216
This changes absolutely nothing they can just announce they wont participate in the next gsl later on.
noipe
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 24 2012 16:00 GMT
#217
On August 25 2012 00:58 howLiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:55 MstrJinbo wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:49 Frost wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:45 MstrJinbo wrote:
On August 25 2012 00:37 odaxium wrote:
So this doesn't actually change anything.

Kespa are still not going to participate in GSL4 and they get ESF plays to continue OSL


Kespa basically announced that it will participate in the GSL season 5. Kespa laid down a concrete time where they will participate in GSL. It's a victory for the esf. They should take it and return to the OSL. For the fans.


If you knew anything about Kespa and its history, you would not be saying that...
Kespa annoucing that it will participate in the GSL season 5 does not mean it has to.
Kespa can and will break its "promise" to see GSL flop.
It's not a victory for the esf. until Kespa participates in the current GSL season 4.


I want the sc2 OSL to go forward. So I'm perfectly fine with giveing Kespa the benefit of the doubt on this one while keeping my trident close at hand.

Yeah I think this resolves the issue for now and allows for everyone to participate in OSL. They can boycott the next OSL if KeSPA indeed doesn't participate in GSL 5, but for now I think it would be very detrimental to the scene if they wouldn't play in the first SC2 OSL. They got a concrete date, I think that's all that's needed for now.

so its good for you for someone to release a statement that they will play... u must want to see gom crumble
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
August 24 2012 16:00 GMT
#218
I dislike how KeSPA is in this whole situation. I think GOM should stay away from this upcoming star league.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 24 2012 16:00 GMT
#219
On August 25 2012 00:56 Ketroc wrote:
So OSL finishes before GSL season 5, right? Good thing Kespa has a reputation of never breaking a promise.


KeSPA could just always exert heavy pressure on individual teams or players to defer participation--make sure only unpopular players participate, while reserving Flash/JD/Bisu to participate in their own OSL and Proleague.

Such pressure would be invisible, and be something the fans themselves could not really change.

After all, money talks, and right now the best KeSPA players still earn much more than their GOM counterparts. What's more, KeSPA is essentially composed of many large Korean companies (Samsung and SK Telecom foremost among them), so it's not like the Korean government will be sympathetic to GOM.
Что?
Crow!
Profile Joined September 2011
United States150 Posts
August 24 2012 16:01 GMT
#220
Note to self: pay even less attention to OSL.
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