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On August 24 2012 20:52 Broodwurst wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:48 S_SienZ wrote:On August 24 2012 20:45 seenster wrote:searched for content on the official kespa site. allthough i can't understand any korean at all  i think i've found the normal fourm with threads and stuff. all the titles i shoved into google translator sound pretty angry. kespa forum Entertaining indeed + Show Spoiler + I had to lol at "SK bastards get out of the cache spa"
how dare they!
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Why does Kespa such a bossy guys. >
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On August 24 2012 20:52 niteReloaded wrote:
Kespa really really strikes me as a bunch of frustrated short men with even shorter penises.
There are men with penises longer than their body height? :o
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On August 24 2012 20:51 FatBat wrote:
Didnt Mvp just say that the problem with korean esport is this drama and the foreign(european) evolves much faster.
He called it a week before it actually explodes.
NEVER DOUBT MVP GUYS !
@JustPassingBy : I gotta LOVE your signature man.
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On August 24 2012 20:49 vanhio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:46 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:42 vanhio wrote:On August 24 2012 20:38 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:30 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:29 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:13 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:10 Lazzi wrote:
I don't know if OSL is on the KeSPa's side, maybe ESF did this move to force OSL to pressure KeSPa too. OSL is part of KeSPA, they sit on KeSPA board. They could break loose from KeSPA but it's HIGHLY unlikely. Can you show which position OGN occupy? + Show Spoiler + They are ON the board of directors (along with all the sponsors/owners to teams) quote FXOBoSs: 1) OGN and KESPA are pretty much the same thing. Their interests are extremely common and 1 company is the common party. http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/30093362883/sharpen-the-pitchforks-light-the-torches-kespa-is Could i have the name of the OGN representative on the board of directors? Am i suppose to take that blog post as fact? Not that it even mentions OGN being on the KeSPA board. I'm not doing this just to be a pain. I've notice you've posted many different things in this thread with conviction and i'm wondering, how does he know this? Why don't i know this? The name of the OGN representative ! Ahhahahahahaha GOGO TRYHARD RANGER ! But why i don't know this ? WHYYYYYYY ???????/ So we are supposed to take what hes posted as fact on faith? No ! Who the hell is this clueless guy ?
And hence the problem when KeSPA reaches the SC2 board... No one knows anything and its just a bunch of nerd making shit up.
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On August 24 2012 20:51 J1.au wrote:
Sick stuff, I'm a BW fan and I support this 100%.
yea, so nice for all those Kespa players you love risk having their future gaming careers ruined because of Kespa. that'll show them...
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On August 24 2012 19:40 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 19:39 Jamial wrote:On August 24 2012 17:50 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol what.... this is turning to kill e-sports -.- Why would this kill eSports? If anything, Kespa is killing eSports - Fucking money hungry, monopoly holding pieces of shit they are. Never had a good impression of them. that's what he means, the entire situation could turn out to kill e-sports. at least gloabally.
No really, why? Why would it KILL eSports?!?!? People will still watch it. Just Korean SC2 that'll die if anything, but who the fuck cares about that, people will still watch MLG, show up to MLG. What does Kespa have to do with global eSports dying?
Angry tone, sorry, but I'm getting frustrated with people acting like one incident will suddenly kill eSports. LoL is growing hard, it will surpass SC2. If he means this will kill SC2, then yes, maybe. But not outside Korea.
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On August 24 2012 20:53 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:51 FatBat wrote:
Didnt Mvp just say that the problem with korean esport is this drama and the foreign(european) evolves much faster. He called it a week before it actually explodes. NEVER DOUBT MVP GUYS ! @JustPassingBy : I gotta LOVE your signature man.
Poor MVP. He jinxed it.
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On August 24 2012 20:51 redloser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:49 bearhug wrote:On August 24 2012 20:44 Silent_Gentle wrote:
Kepsa sucks. lol. gom equally sucks, if not more. what did gom do?
he has to be trollbaiting
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On August 24 2012 20:53 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:52 niteReloaded wrote:
Kespa really really strikes me as a bunch of frustrated short men with even shorter penises. There are men with penises longer than their body height? :o
hah, it's relatively speaking. Their height to normal height, their penis to normal penis.
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Loving this drama, pretty interesting how the korean scene is gonna end up - not so sure that its gonna be "kespa owns them all" again
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On August 24 2012 20:54 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:49 vanhio wrote:On August 24 2012 20:46 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:42 vanhio wrote:On August 24 2012 20:38 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:30 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:29 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:13 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:10 Lazzi wrote:
I don't know if OSL is on the KeSPa's side, maybe ESF did this move to force OSL to pressure KeSPa too. OSL is part of KeSPA, they sit on KeSPA board. They could break loose from KeSPA but it's HIGHLY unlikely. Can you show which position OGN occupy? + Show Spoiler + They are ON the board of directors (along with all the sponsors/owners to teams) quote FXOBoSs: 1) OGN and KESPA are pretty much the same thing. Their interests are extremely common and 1 company is the common party. http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/30093362883/sharpen-the-pitchforks-light-the-torches-kespa-is Could i have the name of the OGN representative on the board of directors? Am i suppose to take that blog post as fact? Not that it even mentions OGN being on the KeSPA board. I'm not doing this just to be a pain. I've notice you've posted many different things in this thread with conviction and i'm wondering, how does he know this? Why don't i know this? The name of the OGN representative ! Ahhahahahahaha GOGO TRYHARD RANGER ! But why i don't know this ? WHYYYYYYY ???????/ So we are supposed to take what hes posted as fact on faith? No ! Who the hell is this clueless guy ? And hence the problem when KeSPA reaches the SC2 board... No one knows anything and its just a bunch of nerd making shit up.
Do you really think FXOboss is making shit up? I'm sure he knows more than you.
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On August 24 2012 20:54 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:49 vanhio wrote:On August 24 2012 20:46 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:42 vanhio wrote:On August 24 2012 20:38 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:30 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:29 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:13 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:10 Lazzi wrote:
I don't know if OSL is on the KeSPa's side, maybe ESF did this move to force OSL to pressure KeSPa too. OSL is part of KeSPA, they sit on KeSPA board. They could break loose from KeSPA but it's HIGHLY unlikely. Can you show which position OGN occupy? + Show Spoiler + They are ON the board of directors (along with all the sponsors/owners to teams) quote FXOBoSs: 1) OGN and KESPA are pretty much the same thing. Their interests are extremely common and 1 company is the common party. http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/30093362883/sharpen-the-pitchforks-light-the-torches-kespa-is Could i have the name of the OGN representative on the board of directors? Am i suppose to take that blog post as fact? Not that it even mentions OGN being on the KeSPA board. I'm not doing this just to be a pain. I've notice you've posted many different things in this thread with conviction and i'm wondering, how does he know this? Why don't i know this? The name of the OGN representative ! Ahhahahahahaha GOGO TRYHARD RANGER ! But why i don't know this ? WHYYYYYYY ???????/ So we are supposed to take what hes posted as fact on faith? No ! Who the hell is this clueless guy ? And hence the problem when KeSPA reaches the SC2 board... No one knows anything and its just a bunch of nerd making shit up.
you are arguing details that have no bearing on the discussion.
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The point is that Kespa does not spoil GSL(at least in the short term), while GSL(or ESF whatever) basically destroys the next OSL.
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gotta love those replys on the kespa forums, wow the korean bw fans are mad.
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On August 24 2012 20:54 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:49 vanhio wrote:On August 24 2012 20:46 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:42 vanhio wrote:On August 24 2012 20:38 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:30 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:29 ShadeR wrote:On August 24 2012 20:13 ragz_gt wrote:On August 24 2012 20:10 Lazzi wrote:
I don't know if OSL is on the KeSPa's side, maybe ESF did this move to force OSL to pressure KeSPa too. OSL is part of KeSPA, they sit on KeSPA board. They could break loose from KeSPA but it's HIGHLY unlikely. Can you show which position OGN occupy? + Show Spoiler + They are ON the board of directors (along with all the sponsors/owners to teams) quote FXOBoSs: 1) OGN and KESPA are pretty much the same thing. Their interests are extremely common and 1 company is the common party. http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/30093362883/sharpen-the-pitchforks-light-the-torches-kespa-is Could i have the name of the OGN representative on the board of directors? Am i suppose to take that blog post as fact? Not that it even mentions OGN being on the KeSPA board. I'm not doing this just to be a pain. I've notice you've posted many different things in this thread with conviction and i'm wondering, how does he know this? Why don't i know this? The name of the OGN representative ! Ahhahahahahaha GOGO TRYHARD RANGER ! But why i don't know this ? WHYYYYYYY ???????/ So we are supposed to take what hes posted as fact on faith? No ! Who the hell is this clueless guy ? And hence the problem when KeSPA reaches the SC2 board... No one knows anything and its just a bunch of nerd making shit up.
I don't understand why you are trying so hard to defend KeSPA?
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On August 24 2012 20:55 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 20:51 J1.au wrote:
Sick stuff, I'm a BW fan and I support this 100%. yea, so nice for all those Kespa players you love risk having their future gaming careers ruined because of Kespa. that'll show them...
except is kespa was no more, sure they wouldn't have huge salaries , but they would be travelling the world competing in any tournament they wished too earning money and getting a great life experience.
clearly ruining thier career yes......
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I agree with the decision. KeSPA screwed up bigtime.
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On August 24 2012 20:55 Jamial wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 19:40 FataLe wrote:On August 24 2012 19:39 Jamial wrote:On August 24 2012 17:50 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol what.... this is turning to kill e-sports -.- Why would this kill eSports? If anything, Kespa is killing eSports - Fucking money hungry, monopoly holding pieces of shit they are. Never had a good impression of them. that's what he means, the entire situation could turn out to kill e-sports. at least gloabally. No really, why? Why would it KILL eSports?!?!? People will still watch it. Just Korean SC2 that'll die if anything, but who the fuck cares about that, people will still watch MLG, show up to MLG. What does Kespa have to do with global eSports dying? Angry tone, sorry, but I'm getting frustrated with people acting like one incident will suddenly kill eSports. LoL is growing hard, it will surpass SC2. If he means this will kill SC2, then yes, maybe. But not outside Korea.
Sure, but i expect it to take a bit of a dive. LoL will live on, that's for certain player base too huge and too idgaf to care.
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Im kind of sick of hearing that ESF isn't Gom. Just look at your favorite player team shirt. There is a GOM patch on every uniform in place reserved for sponsors. You can argue that GOM sponsors GSL teams and there for has a unofficial power in ESF. Its especially visible with this move.
Devil advocate mode on
What does ESF teams gain from this? To be honest i see no gain for them.
By withdrawing from the tournament they:
a) limit their sponsors presence on TV
b) make sponsoring a tournament a "risky" business. That could even backfire for GOM since new sponsor would surerly learn about it.
c) limit the additional earnings of their players.
d) this point is pure speculation into how korean team work - decreses team budget duo to not getting percentage of players winning in OSL.
Oh. And its funny that the letter is sign by Nestea. (of IM).
IM team withdrew some of its players from GOM organised event (WCS Korea) so they could be present at Gameson as a publicity. And of course poach some money from IEM.
About Kespa previous move.
Since right now they are in middle of transition and want to keep their fans (yeah they have them. Just compare the GOM studio and PL studio crowds) its more advantageous to them to do it with their tournaments - so they wouldn't lose fans to gom. Also Code A qualifiers are brutal. Even more than the first round of Code S. Sending their players there now is highly inadvisable bearing the results of WCS Korea qualifiers.... Most of Kespa players needed seeds to ge in.
Kespa didn't say they will never play in GSL. They just stated that they are not ready to play yet.
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To sum it up... Those silly koreans.
If it keeps happening again i wouldn't be surprised if in future to participate in any torunament you would have to sign a legally bound document that would state what you can and can't do, and what kind of penalties you will suffer for withdrawing
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