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raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
August 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#781
On August 24 2012 20:49 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:44 Silent_Gentle wrote:
Kepsa sucks.

lol.
gom equally sucks, if not more.

what have gom done wrong this time?
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#782
On August 24 2012 20:49 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:44 Silent_Gentle wrote:
Kepsa sucks.

lol.
gom equally sucks, if not more.


how so?
n.Die_Jaedong
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4553 Posts
August 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#783
On August 24 2012 20:47 OpticalShot wrote:
Now it's war, lol!
Both sides busy hurting themselves, too much pride to give in for the greater good.

i thought if gom were to give in kespa would be no fucks given and kill gom? i cannot see how that's 'the greater good'
hi. big fan.
DasHawk
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark362 Posts
August 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#784
Goddammit, i fucking knew KESPA was gonna fuck this up - sooner or later ((
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
August 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#785
so whats this about? The only thing I can seem to think that happened here is that the Kespa players pulling out of the GSL was to not attract the OSL viewers to GSL (a bigger coming together of Kespa players v GSL players) and instead have the GSL crowd come to OSL for the first "big" coming together of Kespa + GSL players
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1750 Posts
August 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#786
On August 24 2012 20:49 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:44 Silent_Gentle wrote:
Kepsa sucks.

lol.
gom equally sucks, if not more.


what did gom do?
CmdrDashy
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia62 Posts
August 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#787
Well i would have to say that this is apalling and really just what was feared in regards to Kespa. I don't know how much of the personnel at Kespa has changed if any from the broodwar days but i suspect very little.
We say the first GOM announcement and it was full of suggestive language that Kespa was being a fucking cunt about it. I read the first 2-3 pages of TL comments and no one seemed to grasp that they were effectively boycotting GOM. Corporate culture does not change easily and if as i suspect effectively the same people are at the top then Kespa will not change.

I am worried about what will happen i love IM it is full of great players and the sort players that you know are not quite there but hey they might surprise you. We saw that with Seed, no one picked him even i didn't think he could win. But there he was another IM champ. I think about the other players in that team and what they could be learning and the skill they must have.
But no. You just hear that Kespa is refusing to allow an open and competitive market that will create the best players and the best events. We have a situation were most of these ESF pros will probably get tossed aside. Why recruit the B Teamers when we could have the obvious Code S talent? The people that really understand the game.

I am disappointed and annoyed with both the decision but it was Kespa who was the cunt about it. People can say they will stand by GOM and i would certainly prefer to but i want to watch the best Starcraft. I really do not bother with most of the leagues (partly as i am from Aus and korean times are only +2 hours or so) like MLG, NASL and the various European tournaments as the play is just not that great. Why watch the A-League when the EPL is far better in almost every wway.

You would think that Kespa would get a good foreign stream seeing as they seem to care some what about the foreign scene hence the MLG partnership but who knows? We though that they would cooperate in the era of sc2.

I am worried and interested to see the outcome.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#788
In less than a year, GOM and ESF will be no more. KeSPA can always just find the next 8 players on their side to participate.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#789
Sick stuff, I'm a BW fan and I support this 100%.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#790
On August 24 2012 20:48 S_SienZ wrote:
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On August 24 2012 20:45 seenster wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:39 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:37 Dundron2000 wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:32 jellyjello wrote:
Love the responses from Korean fans on the kespa official forum. Kespa have really got themselves into a corner. On the other hand, big props to federation (and Nestea) for showing some balls.


link?


this one i guess

http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273725&board=&category=102&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token=

searched for content on the official kespa site. allthough i can't understand any korean at all i think i've found the normal fourm with threads and stuff. all the titles i shoved into google translator sound pretty angry.

kespa forum

Entertaining indeed

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How did you get google translate to translate that? All I got was "invalid URL". :o
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
August 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#791
Didnt Mvp just say that the problem with korean esport is this drama and the foreign(european) evolves much faster.
"This game went full retard"- Totalbiscuit
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#792
On August 24 2012 20:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:48 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:45 seenster wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:39 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:37 Dundron2000 wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:32 jellyjello wrote:
Love the responses from Korean fans on the kespa official forum. Kespa have really got themselves into a corner. On the other hand, big props to federation (and Nestea) for showing some balls.


link?


this one i guess

http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273725&board=&category=102&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token=

searched for content on the official kespa site. allthough i can't understand any korean at all i think i've found the normal fourm with threads and stuff. all the titles i shoved into google translator sound pretty angry.

kespa forum

Entertaining indeed

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


How did you get google translate to translate that? All I got was "invalid URL". :o

In chrome just right click page and > Translate to English?
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#793
Kespa really really strikes me as a bunch of frustrated short men with even shorter penises.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#794
We want eSports to grow like regular sports (there are tons of tournaments around the world at the same time), not be dominated by one tournament with only 32 players getting anything (B-teamers stuck cleaning dishes and not getting paid for anything).

KeSPA doing this stuff in an attempt to monopolize everything isn't going to help. Also competition is always a good thing as it prevents one company from being able to do what they want regardless of what the consumer or employees want.
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rogscorp
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)13 Posts
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#795
I can't understand why people think Gom(or ESF) and KeSPA are equally shitty.
It's totally KeSPA's fault and betrayal.
Maybe people who started watching E-Sporst from SC2 don't know what KeSPA did in BW.
Life for life.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:53:02
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#796
Such a poor and sad standpoint of KESPA.
ESF had to do something and i think it was the right move.
I really hope KESPA reconsiders. I don't want to have to two seperated leagues with two seperate playerbases.
If KESPA goes through with it i won't watch OGN until the issue is resolved.
Cj hero | Zest
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#797
On August 24 2012 20:51 ninjamyst wrote:
In less than a year, GOM and ESF will be no more. KeSPA can always just find the next 8 players on their side to participate.


It is up to Blizzard broski.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#798
On August 24 2012 20:48 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:45 seenster wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:39 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:37 Dundron2000 wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:32 jellyjello wrote:
Love the responses from Korean fans on the kespa official forum. Kespa have really got themselves into a corner. On the other hand, big props to federation (and Nestea) for showing some balls.


link?


this one i guess

http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273725&board=&category=102&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token=

searched for content on the official kespa site. allthough i can't understand any korean at all i think i've found the normal fourm with threads and stuff. all the titles i shoved into google translator sound pretty angry.

kespa forum

Entertaining indeed

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I had to lol at "SK bastards get out of the cache spa"
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
XaMaXaM
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany113 Posts
August 24 2012 11:52 GMT
#799
When some Slayers are qualified it would be great cause so would be a different way the better one.....
I think Korean E-Sports is going to be like F1,but in the end the would find always a solution.
Is MC part of the ESF?When the membership is caused by the team affiliation,he shouldn´t have any problems.Why should Sk member of eSF -.-.
I am very hopefull that the membership in eSF is like a TL Acc which u first have to close so that u arent any longer member of TL......
OdiousTea
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia357 Posts
August 24 2012 11:53 GMT
#800
GOM playing hard ball now, it's all or nothing.
Wow would have never imagined such a role reversal.
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