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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:06 achan1058 wrote: They have a lot actually. If KeSPA kills GOM, ESF will die with it. And if GOM dies that means less tournaments = less chance to make money for the pros/teams. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
Allowing KeSPA to dictate which tournaments players can participate in is just bad for everyone overall, and hopefully the ESF "voluntary boycott" sends KeSPA a message before OSL actually starts and we'll have a Ro16 with only 8 players. | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:10 achan1058 wrote: Personally I won't be so naive to believe that. They side with GOM because it's the best chance for them to survive and prosper. yeah that too of course, but winning the next 3 osls is also a good way for the esf players to prosper, they let that chance go for gom | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:07 Musicus wrote: esf is showing their loyality to gom, since gom sustained them in the past Not only this. But if GOMTV dies, then i'm pretty sure that ESF players won't be allowed to participate in OGN events. So this is also self-protection. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4561 Posts
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Plague1503
Croatia466 Posts
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:14 FataLe wrote: What happens if all the Kespa players just decide to say fuck it and leave kespa? I'm sure the teams will still support them and i'm not sure kespa would pursue legal action vs that many people. The players are payed by monthly pays. If they leave kespa their pays disappear. | ||
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Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:06 NoobSkills wrote: You were the last post in this thread, so I chose you sorry. The complete ignorance and rush in this thread is ridiculous. Blizzard does have complete control, but Blizzard is not a dumb company. Kespa has run things and created the esport side of RTS with BW. Blizzard had nothing to do with it. And with that KESPA secured so many sponsors and even a television company. Blizzard does not have control if they want to remain in a market that is so heavily influenced by KESPA they have to fall in line. Two despite the fact that I don't think KESPA would do this to both of your points. Blizzard can blacklist IP's. KESPA could create a LAN mode, or even more easily use the Korean government to keep their IP secret. They can't ban commentators lol? Commentators are people and they can choose to do as they please. They could disconnect players from the game, but what happens if they don't know the account? If KESPA were to be sued KESPA would probably win again. And they didn't really win, but Blizzard had no shot. Now, I don't think any of that will happen, but seriously stop posting out of your ass guys. Read FXO Boss' blog because it is most likely how this will wind up. Power is power and money is money, sorry guys. http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/ Yea, but c'mon GOM is involved lol. The reason KeSPA didn't switch to SC2 when it came out was because blizz wouldn't let them broadcast. If KeSPA and GOm go to war and Blizz sides with GOM then KeSPA will die. If KeSPA broadcasts without a license then they are openly committing a crime and that is not something that major companies want to be associated with. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
I really hope this gets fixed on monday, hopefully kespa lets the players play in the GSL and this decision gets withdrawn. then again, knowing Kespa....this won't end well. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:14 FataLe wrote: What happens if all the Kespa players just decide to say fuck it and leave kespa? I'm sure the teams will still support them and i'm not sure kespa would pursue legal action vs that many people. They need a flag to rally behind though. But then, I guess BoxeR is back in KeSPA. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:14 kusto wrote: Not only this. But if GOMTV dies, then i'm pretty sure that ESF players won't be allowed to participate in OGN events. So this is also self-protection. you think so? imo if GOMTV dies and the esf players (which are still the big names in sc2) only play in their own league that would be the perfect outcome for kespa and ogn or not? | ||
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JyB
France466 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:14 FataLe wrote: What happens if all the Kespa players just decide to say fuck it and leave kespa? I'm sure the teams will still support them and i'm not sure kespa would pursue legal action vs that many people. Why people keep bringing that up ? They are PAID by Kespa, aren't they ? | ||
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:01 Herry wrote: complete crap. no offence but that is just wrong on so many levels. You could use any random accounts and blizzard would have no idea who is playing some random games. I don't think we have to worry i think this is all just cloak and dagger stuff. Either one of them will fold, personally i can actually see why Kespa would want more time for their players, but i dont see why they would not allow their players, but i think the ESF's decision is a bluff...we will soon find out i guess Im pretty sure blizzard can search 2 account names in a same lobby and ban them. Hell it would be even enough to ban the commentator account or search a map lobby and look for Accounts with Event names. GSL is the new thing and Kespa seems to dont know its place in the sc2 scene. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:17 mrtomjones wrote: What did Blizzard say 30 minutes ago? Blizzard said something? | ||
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freerolll
Belgium1056 Posts
People forget about all the GSL teams that have alot of interest in having GSL stay and not get black balled like gom got in BW. These teams dont have the big budgets big team houses or big sponsors like the kespa teams have! | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:12 pdd wrote: I really hope that KeSPA really sees that the ESF players pulling out is a huge deal and realize that they shouldn't restrict player freedom to participate. I mean if the players don't feel they're ready they can choose not to participate, but obviously a lot of players Jaedong, Roro, etc have all stated they want to qualify. Allowing KeSPA to dictate which tournaments players can participate in is just bad for everyone overall, and hopefully the ESF "voluntary boycott" sends KeSPA a message before OSL actually starts and we'll have a Ro16 with only 8 players. Well, not for KeSPA i'd say, because they can decide to allow only the tournaments in which they have fincancial interests... | ||
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