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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
Kespa players dont play in any Gom Tournament since 2008 | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
Kespa, stop worrying about yourself for a minute and let the players who let you profit in the first place seek new opportunity, fame, and tournament earnings. | ||
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madsweepslol
161 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:20 Condor Hero wrote: Yeah it doesn't help their cause if JD/Bisu/Flash get smashed by some random "dish washers." There's 3 plausible reasons for this: 1) Kespa pro's aren't ready. 2) They want to focus on PL playoffs (which matters a TON more to sponsors than random individual leagues, and yes, GSL is a random individual league right now). 3) Kespa takeover. 1 & 2 are very likely while 3 is a distant distant possibility that some people (who don't even know wtf Kespa does) are happily jumping on the bandwagon for as if it already happened. 1) the players themselves expressed interest in partcipating in GSL, and many fans and players alike believe the gap isn't that big. 2) Not every team is going to be in PL playoffs. Also, the playoffs never impacted whether players partcipate in MSL or OSL, and it certainly won't impact the games in OSL that start next week 3) A distant possibility? You mean the entity that forced GOM out of the BW scene in the past wouldn't ever try to do the same thing again? You look funny calling GSL a random individual league when hybrid Proleague is the biggest joke to ever disgrace BW. | ||
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Blueblister
Sweden321 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:14 floor exercise wrote: Who both had seats on the Kespa board of directors On August 24 2012 01:14 Talin wrote: He actually has his facts straight, get yours straight before you randomly challenge someone. -_- OGN/MBC are/were part of Kespa. And Canada and Montenegro are part of the UN, whats your point? This kind of reverse-guilt-by-association doesn't work with me, the UN doesn't deserve praise for everything your governments does right. My point is that it's the television channels that made BW last as long. If OGN had chosen to call it quits like MBC did, then BW would've been long dead, Kespa or no Kespa. On the other hand it's quite likely that OGN is one of the driving forces behind Kespa's decision in this case, protecting the OSL is in their interest. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:32 Arco wrote: Kespa doesn't want Gretech/GOMTV profiting off the players they helped shape the identity of. They will do this as long as they can and use excuses such as "Kespa players aren't ready" when they clearly are. WCS is a great example of this, a lot of huge name players like DongRaeGu and Leenock (among others) got smashed by Kespa players. Kespa, stop worrying about yourself for a minute and let the players who let you profit in the first place seek new opportunity, fame, and tournament earnings. It's one tournament man. We haven't seen enough of them yet and limiting exposure is a good way of creating mystique in some cases. | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
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Odoakar
Croatia1837 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:27 Signus wrote: There's no real reason players can't play in both leagues at the same time. BW veterans routinely played in OSL and MSL at the same time and many even played in the GOM BW League for the few seasons it existed as well. Kespa is doing this to protect the image of their players, who would almost certainly stuggle if they attempted to make it through Code A qualifiers. Imagine if Bisu was forced to get through Courage during a major slump just so he could attempt to get into MSL? That's the situation the Kespa players are in, the hype behind OSL and the GOM vs Kespa storyline would be completely annihilated if none of the big names could manage to get through what is essentially an SC2 B-Team tournament. It's a shame, because this means OGN gets the advantage of having the Kespa vs GSL rivalry and GOM doesn't see any of it. Code A Qualifiers might be the most difficult tournament in SC2 right now, but I still think Kespa should have sent a few of their players to show they were serious about cooperating and to test the waters for next season. Right now, they look like the same old assholes who boycotted GOM during BW, not a good thing to be when they are trying to build up their public image. I don't think this is true, otherwise they wouldn't risk putting 8 extremely strong players on the OSL. If anything, I would say that now is the best time for kespa players to try qualifying, as they will always have a good excuse if they fail. But if they try it only later and still fail, then the debacle will ring quite loud. | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:35 StarStruck wrote: It's one tournament man. We haven't seen enough of them yet and limiting exposure is a good way of creating mystique in some cases. But this one tournament is made for foreigners to watch. They really made an effort to reach the foreign scene. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:35 ThatGuy89 wrote: they just wanna wait, so that when the kespa players do play, they take top 10 spots or something so why have an OSL with split qualifiers so both kespa and gom players can play in? | ||
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Miscellany
Wales125 Posts
I'm fine with this as long as KeSPA has a good reason for doing so, as in a timetabling issue and not some snobbery or whatever... | ||
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StarStrider
United States689 Posts
BUT if they don't let them in next season, it will be obvious that KeSPA is more about money than the players or the sport, and I'll be angry. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:42 StarStrider wrote: I think one more season is appropriate and a proportionate response by KeSPA. Unless they had some formal agreement with GOM saying they would most definitely allow their players over, and now they are breaking that agreement, then it's both understandable and within their right (and probably best for the majority of their players) to wait one more season. It seems like just yesterday we had the mini KeSPA showmatch in the US. I think one more season will let them be up to par and reflect well on the players and on KeSPA. Cheers. One question, what is that logo? Have never seen that team before | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:35 StarStruck wrote: It's one tournament man. We haven't seen enough of them yet and limiting exposure is a good way of creating mystique in some cases. It's also a great way of taking the intrique and excitement away from your competition so that you can profit. It's only 1 case so far, but if this continues, the GOM people need to boycott the OSL, or the OSL will surpass the GSL by the time the Kespa players are up to Code S level. If the crossover to the GSL continues to be blocked by Kespa, and GOM doesn't respond, their clock may be ticking. | ||
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Anta
Germany434 Posts
do i miss it? are they just calm? or do they even appreciate the decisions made? | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:32 therockmanxx wrote: Whats the big deal Kespa players dont play in any Gom Tournament since 2008 Clearly you're not familiar with the GOMTV invitational or the 3 classic tournaments, which included all the top players. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:45 Anta wrote: i wonder why the Kespa players are always so calm when Kespa makes thees decisions !? do i miss it? are they just calm? or do they even appreciate the decisions made? Its not that they are calm or not. They can't voice out (or wouldn't) because kespa is the boss. Kespa in a sense owns all the kespa players so there is nothing much they can do. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 24 2012 01:34 setzer wrote: 1) the players themselves expressed interest in partcipating in GSL, and many fans and players alike believe the gap isn't that big. 2) Not every team is going to be in PL playoffs. Also, the playoffs never impacted whether players partcipate in MSL or OSL, and it certainly won't impact the games in OSL that start next week 3) A distant possibility? You mean the entity that forced GOM out of the BW scene in the past wouldn't ever try to do the same thing again? You look funny calling GSL a random individual league when hybrid Proleague is the biggest joke to ever disgrace BW. 1) I bet some players think 1-2 hours of practice each day would be good too, let's have them decide that too. 2) Most of the teams are 1 match away from each other, so the next match is really important and we're gonna watch them give their absolute best. 3) You don't think 3 individual leagues plus SPL was too much? Sadly this isn't a utopia where every league that starts up finds success. Teams control the players and it's a matter of team pride (aka sponsor pride) to do well in team leagues. Players complained not even getting enough time to prep for OSL/MSL so yes to the team, GSL is a random individual league. Sponsors don't care that SPL has a fucked up format, SKT just knows that KT is competing in it and wants to win, vice versa. | ||
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