EPTStephano leaving Millenium, [possibly] to EG - Page 25
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Think before you post. This should go without saying, there are so many people making absolutely idiotic comments in this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, please don't say anything. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Revelatus
United States183 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:44 sam05396 wrote: or they have certain ppl geared towards getting pr and other geared for gaming? jyp,huk,thorzaiin, and puma really stir up all that drama huh? It doesn't matter if they have some players that aren't involved in the drama. While I respect those members for not involving themselves, it still makes the team look terrible when you have 2 players that market themselves as pro gamers, almost always diving face first into every controversial situation that pops up. And not only that, but their managers don't even try to punish these players for doing this, no.. they join in. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10145 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:40 aifranchise wrote: Why does everyone have a problem with EG? They seem to take really good care of their players... Because they are hypocritical shady manipulative organization with a lot of money to buy everyone. | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:48 mcc wrote: Well, we will have to live with it, I also liked Thorzain and Demuslim and now they are gone and only Darth Vaders remain. yea we have to live with it, that the best foreign player may be going to a team that has the best marketability :/ Sucks for esports really u know? | ||
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:37 kickinhead wrote: So in your opinion, every team, sponsor, league, player etc. can do whatever they want financially and if it doesn't work out - well, god didn't want it to happen that way then... I like to think a bit more pragmatic: There are things you can do that benefit SC2 as an industry, but there are definitely things that can turn out to be harmful. I'm not saying what EG does will definitely destroy SC2 as an eSport, but from what eSport should've learned with WC3 (which was incredibly huge for a long time, especially in China), EG is doing sth. that is worth talking and thinking about to a greater extent. Besides that, I don't think EG is doing themselves a favour by picking up good players from other teams, often surrounded by a controversy and often leaving the former team in the rain with one of their best players now on EG. EG didn't do anything to grow Stephano as a player as of yet and other recent pickups like Thorzain also didn't benefit from the transfer (as of yet), so for me, it looks like EG is taking credit for the hard work of others, just by handing out huge amounts of cash. Therefore, just getting bigger because they are already big, absorbing other players/teams.... You can see how that can lead to a problematic situation if it goes on exactly like this, right? Makes them look greedy, overly money-dependant, insecure with their line-up as it was before the new acquisition and insecure in their ability to develop and help new talents. Thats why I think the pick-up of Suppy was much smarter from EG and made them appear in a more sympathetic light. I for one cant see the problematic situation you are talking about. How many of their pickups have been "surrounded in controversy"? The Lakers have a history of taking other teams talented players, in fact that just pulled it off again this summer. They took a top 5 player from a smaller, less successful, less financed team. Is the NBA headed toward a problematic situation now? | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:49 Revelatus wrote: It doesn't matter if they have some players that aren't involved in the drama. While I respect those members for not involving themselves, it still makes the team look terrible when you have 2 players that market themselves as pro gamers, almost always diving face first into every controversial situation that pops up. And not only that, but their managers don't even try to punish these players for doing this, no.. they join in. maybe because all of that exposure is good for them? yea they should punish them | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On August 21 2012 21:07 X3GoldDot wrote: only good player to fall after joining EG was huk imho, and he was pretty decent for the first 6 months. thorzain was always sorta wacky, demuslim is still a force to be reckoned with, idra is idra, machine, incontrol and lzgamer werent top top top tier to begin with. JYP is getting better in EG.... always sorta wacky? why that? but I still really don't like that all the good really top players are going to EG  makes it kinda boring eventhough it is nice to see them totally fail in teamleagues nonetheless xD | ||
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BRaegO
United States243 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote: Player with his talents should set his eyes on Korea, but from what I hear from Naniwa's interviews it's a crappy place to live for a foreigner. I wouldn't consider Naniwa a credible source considering he has trouble explaining things with his english and his situation is quite different then others(he didn't have anyone around but Sase and his enviroment is what makes Korea a "crappy place to live". I imagine Korea is different for everyone. Tasteless even said he wouldn't move back to the US cause of his love for Korea, even if things changed for him work wise. Jinro, Huk, TLO, and many others seem very fond of it. I think with Stephano's popularity and skill(considering he is signed by a team with money; which is the only thing he will do cause he isn't fucking stupid) he can live quite well in Korea if he wanted to. | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:50 mcc wrote: Because they are hypocritical shady manipulative organization with a lot of money to buy everyone. ? | ||
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CrugerDK
Denmark323 Posts
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
Picking up good players and therefore, at least to a certain extent, pulling them out of the environment which made them thrive and obviously worked for them, often leads to long adapting-times, slumps and maybe the new environment just doesn't work out at all. This is why ppl talk about things like the EG-curse. But picking up newcomers could be much more beneficial for them, because it's much more likely that they improve in a training-house, playing together with top-tier-players that they wouldn't have a chance to train and talk to before. But EG constantly picks up players that are top-tier, but will most likely only get worse in EG (at least for a short time where they need to adapt to the new team, training-style, training-partners, management etc.) Yes, there is a chance that those top-tier players will eventually get even better than before, just because EG has the ressources for it, but sth. like that needs time and the chance of that happening is smaller then the chance of a newcomer vastly improving in EG. I'll even go as far as saying that Suppy will be the only EG-player that will show a big improvement of skill over the next few months in EG, but again, that's not me taking a big risk, it's just that the chance of him improving over players that won huge tournaments and were at the top while not in EG, is much bigger than vice-versa. | ||
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GHSTxJet
United States154 Posts
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xpldngmn
Austria265 Posts
please please please edit: on second thought, stephano was/is in korea, could he be the first foreigner to join a korean team? (or has there been one before?) | ||
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:00 VelJa wrote: Sad Day for French esport scene. BTW i hope that he will avoid the EGCurse. GL Steph! How is it sad when a Frenchman will be payed atleast 50 times better then what mill offered him and also offer him all he needs to travel anywhere and represent your country as a Frenchman in any competition he desires and improve his play doing so? Seriously some of u have issues sry to say this. | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
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dynwar7
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
On August 21 2012 23:51 Aeceus wrote: Will make EG a lot stronger in team leagues I have to say. I am pretty sure Stephano doesn't give a **** about team leagues. | ||
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