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Think before you post. This should go without saying, there are so many people making absolutely idiotic comments in this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, please don't say anything.
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
August 21 2012 14:33 GMT
#441
can't wait until stephano wins another big event so people can shut their mouth and realize how dumb is the EG curse.
@ggmonx
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 21 2012 14:33 GMT
#442
On August 21 2012 23:25 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:14 Yaki wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:11 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:08 Yaki wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:06 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:57 luke3920 wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:55 Doodsmack wrote:
Lol @ the EG hate. Let's all ignore the evidence, especially with the two most recent pick-ups thorzain and suppy, that goes against the EG curse theory.


Pretty sure Thorzain supports the theory. He hasn't posted any results, and went out in first round of TSL4 when defending his title...



Guess it's easier to argue when you can just talk out of your ass and not put any effort into verifying your statements? You're forgetting a 1st place finish and a code A performance .

Which Code A performance ? He lost in Code A against arguably the worst known korean PvTer in the world.



Oh you mean the guy who took the best player in the world to game 7 in his first code s finals? Let's hear you explain that away . And please compare advancing out of the first round of code A to other foreigner performances .

Have you ever heard about JYP ? I guess no. Also FYI he didn't advance out of the first round of Code A as he finished 3rd in his Code S group. Get your facts right before acting all high and mighty.



Ah, my mistake about JYP. Although "worst Korean PvTer in the world" is as you know an exaggeration. We maybe could change it to "worst code A PvTer at the time" in which case it's not saying much given the level of talent in code A. And yes you could nitpick about whether it was technically the first round of code A that he won, but it does seem like you're intentionally ignoring the gumiho victory which is interesting.

Where the fuck do you see me ignoring his victory over gumiho ? I stated that he finished 3rd in his code s group which implies that he beat someone. Yes I didn't name the player he beat but because that wasn't the point. You talked about some imaginary "code a performance" so why should I bring gumiho in this discussion ? he beat him in his code s group.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
nymfaw
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway430 Posts
August 21 2012 14:33 GMT
#443
Spoling people isnt the way to do it. It creates for cocky retards who cant post any results, like idra
Everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, its not the end.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 21 2012 14:33 GMT
#444
From what I have heard (I'm not that into the SC2 scene) he wants to earn as much money as possible before he starts to study again. This seems like the right move then
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 21 2012 14:34 GMT
#445
wow what the hell. this came out of absolutely nowhere
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 21 2012 14:34 GMT
#446
On August 21 2012 23:32 Serinox wrote:
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On August 21 2012 23:31 never_Nal wrote:
Probably the best move for Stephano, It could be interesting if he signed up with Team8 or something around the BW lines :D


Of all the Korean Teams you had to use Team 8.


I'd love to see him on a KeSPA team. That would be awesome to see a player like him team up with guys like Sea and the Dong.
TheSurgeonTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States131 Posts
August 21 2012 14:34 GMT
#447
EG, where non-korean mediocre players go to give up competitive play in favor of streaming, casting.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 21 2012 14:34 GMT
#448
On August 21 2012 23:34 sam05396 wrote:
wow what the hell. this came out of absolutely nowhere



Not really man. There have actually been quite a few threads discussing such a move on here and reddit.
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 14:35:34
August 21 2012 14:34 GMT
#449
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sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 21 2012 14:35 GMT
#450
On August 21 2012 23:33 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:25 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:14 Yaki wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:11 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:08 Yaki wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:06 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:57 luke3920 wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:55 Doodsmack wrote:
Lol @ the EG hate. Let's all ignore the evidence, especially with the two most recent pick-ups thorzain and suppy, that goes against the EG curse theory.


Pretty sure Thorzain supports the theory. He hasn't posted any results, and went out in first round of TSL4 when defending his title...



Guess it's easier to argue when you can just talk out of your ass and not put any effort into verifying your statements? You're forgetting a 1st place finish and a code A performance .

Which Code A performance ? He lost in Code A against arguably the worst known korean PvTer in the world.



Oh you mean the guy who took the best player in the world to game 7 in his first code s finals? Let's hear you explain that away . And please compare advancing out of the first round of code A to other foreigner performances .

Have you ever heard about JYP ? I guess no. Also FYI he didn't advance out of the first round of Code A as he finished 3rd in his Code S group. Get your facts right before acting all high and mighty.



Ah, my mistake about JYP. Although "worst Korean PvTer in the world" is as you know an exaggeration. We maybe could change it to "worst code A PvTer at the time" in which case it's not saying much given the level of talent in code A. And yes you could nitpick about whether it was technically the first round of code A that he won, but it does seem like you're intentionally ignoring the gumiho victory which is interesting.

Where the fuck do you see me ignoring his victory over gumiho ? I stated that he finished 3rd in his code s group which implies that he beat someone. Yes I didn't name the player he beat but because that wasn't the point. You talked about some imaginary "code a performance" so why should I bring gumiho in this discussion ? he beat him in his code s group.

isnt jyp back in code s? and beat two or three terrans to get there, guess hes improved since joining eg ^^
Revelatus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States183 Posts
August 21 2012 14:35 GMT
#451
On August 21 2012 23:34 sam05396 wrote:
wow what the hell. this came out of absolutely nowhere

Not really O.o
This was being talked about weeks ago. Possibly months ago.
caяp diєм
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
August 21 2012 14:35 GMT
#452
EGCurse.Stephano

RIP
I have a beard. I'm unprofessional.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 21 2012 14:35 GMT
#453
On August 21 2012 23:34 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:34 sam05396 wrote:
wow what the hell. this came out of absolutely nowhere



Not really man. There have actually been quite a few threads discussing such a move on here and reddit.

i was kidding...
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 21 2012 14:37 GMT
#454
hoping for SK.Stephano

sorry EG, but I want to see them establish themselves in the SC2 scene
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
August 21 2012 14:37 GMT
#455
I feel like Stephano never depended on a team in terms of practice. He always did his thing, regardless of what team he was on. I bet he'll coninue to dominate, just now while getting a shitton of money.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 14:39:45
August 21 2012 14:37 GMT
#456
On August 21 2012 23:03 Chargelot wrote:
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On August 21 2012 22:56 kickinhead wrote:
I don't like that at all........

EG is doing exactly what MYM and SK-Gaming did und what ultimately made the WC3-Scene collapse: They buy all the good players for sums nearly no other team can compete with, therefore driving up the price the players want as their salary and destroying all teams (both financially and with their in-game results) that don't have the funding that EG does.

Also, I really began to like Millenium and I was looking forward to rooting for the Underdog (that still had chances to upset big teams) in the next big team-league. They did a great job helping good players to become top-tier (stephano, feast and, to maybe a lesser extent also Adelscott and Diestar) and they made some really great dicisions picking up players like ForGG, that are now just wrecking face and popular and promising players like Dragon.

Now, when their roster begins to look really strong, EG comes and picks up Stephano, knowing that they can easily make him an offer Millenium can't match and Stephano can't refuse.

It's also really sad, cuz we see how much Millenium tried to keep Stephano and how much they've invested in him.

Of course, it's pretty stupid to blame either EG or Stephano, both are doing what they think is best for them, but I'm just not too fond of the situation and I can already see problems with that arise in the future.

If SC2 esports can't survive the strains of capitalism, then it can't survive. There is no point in coddling it if it's actually that weak.


So in your opinion, every team, sponsor, league, player etc. can do whatever they want financially and if it doesn't work out - well, god didn't want it to happen that way then...

I like to think a bit more pragmatic: There are things you can do that benefit SC2 as an industry, but there are definitely things that can turn out to be harmful. I'm not saying what EG does will definitely destroy SC2 as an eSport, but from what eSport should've learned with WC3 (which was incredibly huge for a long time, especially in China), EG is doing sth. that is worth talking and thinking about to a greater extent.

Besides that, I don't think EG is doing themselves a favour by picking up good players from other teams, often surrounded by a controversy and often leaving the former team in the rain with one of their best players now on EG. EG didn't do anything to grow Stephano as a player as of yet and other recent pickups like Thorzain also didn't benefit from the transfer (as of yet), so for me, it looks like EG is taking credit for the hard work of others, just by handing out huge amounts of cash. Therefore, just getting bigger because they are already big, absorbing other players/teams.... You can see how that can lead to a problematic situation if it goes on exactly like this, right?

Makes them look greedy, overly money-dependant, insecure with their line-up as it was before the new acquisition and insecure in their ability to develop and help new talents.

Thats why I think the pick-up of Suppy was much smarter from EG and made them appear in a more sympathetic light.
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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 21 2012 14:37 GMT
#457
On August 21 2012 23:35 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:33 Yaki wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:25 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:14 Yaki wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:11 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:08 Yaki wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:06 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:57 luke3920 wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:55 Doodsmack wrote:
Lol @ the EG hate. Let's all ignore the evidence, especially with the two most recent pick-ups thorzain and suppy, that goes against the EG curse theory.


Pretty sure Thorzain supports the theory. He hasn't posted any results, and went out in first round of TSL4 when defending his title...



Guess it's easier to argue when you can just talk out of your ass and not put any effort into verifying your statements? You're forgetting a 1st place finish and a code A performance .

Which Code A performance ? He lost in Code A against arguably the worst known korean PvTer in the world.



Oh you mean the guy who took the best player in the world to game 7 in his first code s finals? Let's hear you explain that away . And please compare advancing out of the first round of code A to other foreigner performances .

Have you ever heard about JYP ? I guess no. Also FYI he didn't advance out of the first round of Code A as he finished 3rd in his Code S group. Get your facts right before acting all high and mighty.



Ah, my mistake about JYP. Although "worst Korean PvTer in the world" is as you know an exaggeration. We maybe could change it to "worst code A PvTer at the time" in which case it's not saying much given the level of talent in code A. And yes you could nitpick about whether it was technically the first round of code A that he won, but it does seem like you're intentionally ignoring the gumiho victory which is interesting.

Where the fuck do you see me ignoring his victory over gumiho ? I stated that he finished 3rd in his code s group which implies that he beat someone. Yes I didn't name the player he beat but because that wasn't the point. You talked about some imaginary "code a performance" so why should I bring gumiho in this discussion ? he beat him in his code s group.

isnt jyp back in code s? and beat two or three terrans to get there, guess hes improved since joining eg ^^

He beat thorzain and hack, how impressive is that right ?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 21 2012 14:38 GMT
#458
On August 21 2012 23:34 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 23:32 Serinox wrote:
On August 21 2012 23:31 never_Nal wrote:
Probably the best move for Stephano, It could be interesting if he signed up with Team8 or something around the BW lines :D


Of all the Korean Teams you had to use Team 8.


I'd love to see him on a KeSPA team. That would be awesome to see a player like him team up with guys like Sea and the Dong.

Well if he truly has that practice schedule i doubt a kespa team wants him tough. Unless they find a way to make him practice as much as the rest.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 21 2012 14:39 GMT
#459
It's been a done deal since like... forever. Long time ago.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 21 2012 14:39 GMT
#460
On August 21 2012 23:37 Xiron wrote:
I feel like Stephano never depended on a team in terms of practice. He always did his thing, regardless of what team he was on. I bet he'll coninue to dominate, just now while getting a shitton of money.

You talk as if he has been in several teams. He's only been in Millenium so far.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
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