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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25996 Posts
August 13 2012 23:28 GMT
#221
On August 14 2012 08:23 AndAgain wrote:
I just hope HOTS does something to make protoss matchups more dynamic. Both PvZ and PvT both appear to have been "solved" if players are of similar skill. In PvZ, it's trying to get an archon toilet against BL-infestor-spines. In PvT it's about having proper HT-Ghost-Colossi-viking ratios and controlling them well. Also notice that these matchups usually come down to maxed armies- that's another thing I would like to see go away.

I really don't think PvT is that bad a matchup now, there's a lot more skirmishing, at least when top Koreans are playing. Agreed with PvZ, but that's as much an issue with Zerg as it is with Protoss
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 13 2012 23:49 GMT
#222
On August 14 2012 08:28 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 08:23 AndAgain wrote:
I just hope HOTS does something to make protoss matchups more dynamic. Both PvZ and PvT both appear to have been "solved" if players are of similar skill. In PvZ, it's trying to get an archon toilet against BL-infestor-spines. In PvT it's about having proper HT-Ghost-Colossi-viking ratios and controlling them well. Also notice that these matchups usually come down to maxed armies- that's another thing I would like to see go away.

I really don't think PvT is that bad a matchup now, there's a lot more skirmishing, at least when top Koreans are playing. Agreed with PvZ, but that's as much an issue with Zerg as it is with Protoss

PvT is actually the best non mirror right now.

But yeah, please make PvZ interesting. Buff Stargate, change MS vs BL dynamic, give Zergs better ways to deal with things aside from the Infestor, make both sides have timings that aren't all-in but which are reliable. That would fix a lot.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
August 13 2012 23:54 GMT
#223
On August 14 2012 08:49 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 08:28 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 08:23 AndAgain wrote:
I just hope HOTS does something to make protoss matchups more dynamic. Both PvZ and PvT both appear to have been "solved" if players are of similar skill. In PvZ, it's trying to get an archon toilet against BL-infestor-spines. In PvT it's about having proper HT-Ghost-Colossi-viking ratios and controlling them well. Also notice that these matchups usually come down to maxed armies- that's another thing I would like to see go away.

I really don't think PvT is that bad a matchup now, there's a lot more skirmishing, at least when top Koreans are playing. Agreed with PvZ, but that's as much an issue with Zerg as it is with Protoss

PvT is actually the best non mirror right now.

But yeah, please make PvZ interesting. Buff Stargate, change MS vs BL dynamic, give Zergs better ways to deal with things aside from the Infestor, make both sides have timings that aren't all-in but which are reliable. That would fix a lot.


Nope, TvZ is back at the top.
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
August 13 2012 23:56 GMT
#224
On August 14 2012 08:49 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 08:28 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 08:23 AndAgain wrote:
I just hope HOTS does something to make protoss matchups more dynamic. Both PvZ and PvT both appear to have been "solved" if players are of similar skill. In PvZ, it's trying to get an archon toilet against BL-infestor-spines. In PvT it's about having proper HT-Ghost-Colossi-viking ratios and controlling them well. Also notice that these matchups usually come down to maxed armies- that's another thing I would like to see go away.

I really don't think PvT is that bad a matchup now, there's a lot more skirmishing, at least when top Koreans are playing. Agreed with PvZ, but that's as much an issue with Zerg as it is with Protoss

PvT is actually the best non mirror right now.

But yeah, please make PvZ interesting. Buff Stargate, change MS vs BL dynamic, give Zergs better ways to deal with things aside from the Infestor, make both sides have timings that aren't all-in but which are reliable. That would fix a lot.


Glad you made it official. I've been wondering what the best match up is currently.
"Right on" - Morrow
DruidzHistory
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden231 Posts
August 13 2012 23:58 GMT
#225
When will this be cet?
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 14 2012 00:01 GMT
#226
On August 14 2012 08:54 Sroobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 08:49 Shiori wrote:
On August 14 2012 08:28 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 08:23 AndAgain wrote:
I just hope HOTS does something to make protoss matchups more dynamic. Both PvZ and PvT both appear to have been "solved" if players are of similar skill. In PvZ, it's trying to get an archon toilet against BL-infestor-spines. In PvT it's about having proper HT-Ghost-Colossi-viking ratios and controlling them well. Also notice that these matchups usually come down to maxed armies- that's another thing I would like to see go away.

I really don't think PvT is that bad a matchup now, there's a lot more skirmishing, at least when top Koreans are playing. Agreed with PvZ, but that's as much an issue with Zerg as it is with Protoss

PvT is actually the best non mirror right now.

But yeah, please make PvZ interesting. Buff Stargate, change MS vs BL dynamic, give Zergs better ways to deal with things aside from the Infestor, make both sides have timings that aren't all-in but which are reliable. That would fix a lot.


Nope, TvZ is back at the top.

If T means Taeja, yeah. Otherwise, no .
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 14 2012 00:01 GMT
#227
On August 14 2012 08:58 Luddff wrote:
When will this be cet?

Considering Blizzard is in Irvine and Sean is in LA I'd put my money on PDT.
Jaedong.
SKDN
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden243 Posts
August 14 2012 00:03 GMT
#228
Its gonna be a weirdass game with oracle play that fucks everything up. but Im still excited!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 14 2012 00:52 GMT
#229
On August 10 2012 21:59 Tyree wrote:
Armchair wannabe TL mods are the absolute worst, and every thread seems to get first couple of pages of "is this really thread worthy?" kind of responses.

If actual TL mods deem a thread pointless or not worthy, then they will close it down, as they have always done. Why shit up a thread if you dont care/dont think its thread worthy?

Ill be watching this battle report, i had no idea one was coming out. Thread did its job of informing me

Adding agreement with this.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
August 14 2012 01:00 GMT
#230
On August 14 2012 09:52 Jrocker152 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 21:59 Tyree wrote:
Armchair wannabe TL mods are the absolute worst, and every thread seems to get first couple of pages of "is this really thread worthy?" kind of responses.

If actual TL mods deem a thread pointless or not worthy, then they will close it down, as they have always done. Why shit up a thread if you dont care/dont think its thread worthy?

Ill be watching this battle report, i had no idea one was coming out. Thread did its job of informing me

Adding agreement with this.


It should be bannable to armchair mod. Extra commandment or something.
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 14 2012 01:02 GMT
#231
On August 14 2012 10:00 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:52 Jrocker152 wrote:
On August 10 2012 21:59 Tyree wrote:
Armchair wannabe TL mods are the absolute worst, and every thread seems to get first couple of pages of "is this really thread worthy?" kind of responses.

If actual TL mods deem a thread pointless or not worthy, then they will close it down, as they have always done. Why shit up a thread if you dont care/dont think its thread worthy?

Ill be watching this battle report, i had no idea one was coming out. Thread did its job of informing me

Adding agreement with this.


It should be bannable to armchair mod. Extra commandment or something.

Not sure if sarcastic...
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
August 14 2012 01:17 GMT
#232
how long?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
mataxp
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Chile538 Posts
August 14 2012 01:20 GMT
#233
On August 14 2012 10:17 Za7oX wrote:
how long?


1 hour aprox
Liquid.Hero Startale.Bomber MVP.Dongraegu
artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
August 14 2012 01:20 GMT
#234
says 30 mins, hngggg can't wait that long
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
August 14 2012 01:23 GMT
#235
This new map looks incredibly bad.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 14 2012 01:27 GMT
#236
uhh the youtube video is out already just click the link
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
August 14 2012 01:28 GMT
#237
yep.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 14 2012 01:29 GMT
#238
On August 14 2012 10:23 Glurkenspurk wrote:
This new map looks incredibly bad.

Yea this map looks awful lol. But I think they just made it to showcase the terrain.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 14 2012 01:29 GMT
#239
On August 14 2012 10:27 FinestHour wrote:
uhh the youtube video is out already just click the link


shhh secrets!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 14 2012 01:30 GMT
#240
lol mother ship core not needing any requirements basically says no to any more early game harass ahahahah
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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