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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 02 2012 09:27 GMT
#1641
On August 02 2012 18:09 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 17:46 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 02 2012 16:51 Tyree wrote:
The idea that Idra or Incontrol has any say in who EG recruits is pure insanity and drivel. EG has 1 superstar and his name is Justin Wong, everyone else is easily replaceable. They will get whoever can to please their sponsors

Carmac said it well, that when you see players leaving or quitting a team, 99% of the time it is a monetary issue. This isent very drama filled or interesting but is the reality. So most likely it is a issue about money

Wish Naniwa the best, he is one of the very few foreigners who has taken the battle to Korea and is trying to establish himself there, whereas many others havent.



couldn't be more wrong lololol

look at our sponsors.. who of those is a fgc sponsor... hmm interesting eh. but yeah, there are hundreds of idras and incontrols lololol


So thats how you have so many posts.......... oh god oh god


been posting here for 8 years...
mec
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden192 Posts
August 02 2012 09:58 GMT
#1642
On August 02 2012 17:46 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 16:51 Tyree wrote:
The idea that Idra or Incontrol has any say in who EG recruits is pure insanity and drivel. EG has 1 superstar and his name is Justin Wong, everyone else is easily replaceable. They will get whoever can to please their sponsors

Carmac said it well, that when you see players leaving or quitting a team, 99% of the time it is a monetary issue. This isent very drama filled or interesting but is the reality. So most likely it is a issue about money

Wish Naniwa the best, he is one of the very few foreigners who has taken the battle to Korea and is trying to establish himself there, whereas many others havent.



couldn't be more wrong lololol

look at our sponsors.. who of those is a fgc sponsor... hmm interesting eh. but yeah, there are hundreds of idras and incontrols lololol


I like you Incontrol but this doesn't look very good at all..
Ikkuh
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands170 Posts
August 02 2012 10:23 GMT
#1643
Just watched the realtalk episode, showed some good insights on naniwa

him leaving quantic was because of the merger
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
August 02 2012 10:30 GMT
#1644
100% im sure that he is talking about dignitas near the end. Plus he only had good things to say about the team and ODEE so it makes me think that they are the only team he wants to join.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 02 2012 10:42 GMT
#1645
On July 31 2012 08:29 dignitasNewmaN wrote:
People change, not sure why people argue that he won't join a team he has already played for.


Just quoting this comment again now that Dignitas seems like a more likely option. Makes it seem incredibly likely.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 02 2012 10:56 GMT
#1646
Does anyone have any real numbers on what the more successful pro-gamers make nowadays?
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
August 02 2012 11:07 GMT
#1647
On August 02 2012 19:56 TheExodus wrote:
Does anyone have any real numbers on what the more successful pro-gamers make nowadays?


I know for a fact that Flash receives 10% of the total income of 2.5 billion people in the world.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 02 2012 11:08 GMT
#1648
http://sc2earnings.com/
This is our town, scrub
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 02 2012 11:11 GMT
#1649
On August 02 2012 20:08 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
http://sc2earnings.com/


I think he meant salary
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 02 2012 11:12 GMT
#1650
On August 02 2012 20:08 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
http://sc2earnings.com/


But isn't that tournament winnings? Surely the player doesn't get all of it, and don't they usually have a salary as well?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 11:19:27
August 02 2012 11:15 GMT
#1651
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.

Edit: per month.
But as I said, no one really knows.
Most average pro players will make enough for a living and not more.
This is our town, scrub
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 02 2012 11:16 GMT
#1652
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
August 02 2012 11:23 GMT
#1653
On August 02 2012 20:16 TheExodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?

lol esports isn't made of money. people are lucky if they even get $100 compensation a month from teams. players on most teams don't even get paid regularly.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 02 2012 11:26 GMT
#1654
On August 02 2012 20:23 Comogury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 20:16 TheExodus wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?

lol esports isn't made of money. people are lucky if they even get $100 compensation a month from teams. players on most teams don't even get paid regularly.


I don't think you understand what it means to be a progamer.
hundred thousand krouner
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
August 02 2012 11:27 GMT
#1655
On August 02 2012 20:26 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 20:23 Comogury wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:16 TheExodus wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?

lol esports isn't made of money. people are lucky if they even get $100 compensation a month from teams. players on most teams don't even get paid regularly.


I don't think you understand what it means to be a progamer.

and i think you're delusional
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 02 2012 11:36 GMT
#1656
On August 02 2012 09:10 Domus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:06 Ammanas wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xdJRmGWtik
Real Talk with Naniwa. Guess it will give you your answer.


Good that he admitted that some of the fault was his about being kicked out of the ESL league and off of MyM.

If Diginitas can offer the money, then Naniwa would probably go back there as he seemed to have a good relationship with them.

He's very money oriented, which isn't wrong per say, but it does come across as being too greedy.


Being an adult/having to pay the rent does that to you . Did you hear the part where he said he would stay on the team for half the money? How many people with normal day jobs do you know that stay on their job when they can earn 3 times as much somewhere else doing exactly the same thing?


Very good post. Heck, most people would change employer even if it was just a 10-20% increase in salary. Also, in many other sports, teams buy and sell players all the time and players want as much salary as possible even if they have already made enough money to not ever have to work again. Why would you expect progamers to not care about money when it's one of the most important things in our society?
hundred thousand krouner
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 02 2012 11:38 GMT
#1657
On August 02 2012 20:27 Comogury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 20:26 Zheryn wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:23 Comogury wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:16 TheExodus wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?

lol esports isn't made of money. people are lucky if they even get $100 compensation a month from teams. players on most teams don't even get paid regularly.


I don't think you understand what it means to be a progamer.

and i think you're delusional


How do you expect progamers to be able to play fulltime if they didn't get a salary enough to pay their bills and food etc?
hundred thousand krouner
Groog
Profile Joined July 2010
127 Posts
August 02 2012 13:24 GMT
#1658
On August 02 2012 20:27 Comogury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 20:26 Zheryn wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:23 Comogury wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:16 TheExodus wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?

lol esports isn't made of money. people are lucky if they even get $100 compensation a month from teams. players on most teams don't even get paid regularly.


I don't think you understand what it means to be a progamer.

and i think you're delusional



Rofl, you do realize that top bw players have been getting payed 6 figures for many years now? And top foreigners are rumored to make the same.

Who's delusional?

And yes, it's a very small minority that make those sums.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
August 02 2012 13:29 GMT
#1659
On August 02 2012 22:24 Groog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 20:27 Comogury wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:26 Zheryn wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:23 Comogury wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:16 TheExodus wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?

lol esports isn't made of money. people are lucky if they even get $100 compensation a month from teams. players on most teams don't even get paid regularly.


I don't think you understand what it means to be a progamer.

and i think you're delusional



Rofl, you do realize that top bw players have been getting payed 6 figures for many years now? And top foreigners are rumored to make the same.

Who's delusional?

And yes, it's a very small minority that make those sums.


Like, one dude in SC2.
Groog
Profile Joined July 2010
127 Posts
August 02 2012 13:31 GMT
#1660
On August 02 2012 22:29 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 22:24 Groog wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:27 Comogury wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:26 Zheryn wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:23 Comogury wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:16 TheExodus wrote:
On August 02 2012 20:15 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
oh , no we dont know what they make, because neither teams nor players want to release data. But it is suspected that EG pays high 4 diggits salaries.


Uhm... per month then, I hope?

lol esports isn't made of money. people are lucky if they even get $100 compensation a month from teams. players on most teams don't even get paid regularly.


I don't think you understand what it means to be a progamer.

and i think you're delusional



Rofl, you do realize that top bw players have been getting payed 6 figures for many years now? And top foreigners are rumored to make the same.

Who's delusional?

And yes, it's a very small minority that make those sums.


Like, one dude in SC2.


Maybe only one, maybe more. We dont know. Atleast major teams dont pay their top players a couple of hundred bucks a month...
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