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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
July 31 2012 22:45 GMT
#1461
On August 01 2012 07:02 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 06:54 IPA wrote:
On August 01 2012 06:41 Talin wrote:
On August 01 2012 04:17 IPA wrote:
On August 01 2012 02:55 Doodsmack wrote:
Sorry but if you're posting negatively about Naniwa in this thread then you're an esports drama queen. Your opinions about Naniwa's personality and past are not relevant here because all we know is that Naniwa left Quantic on good terms (and please don't say "no thats just PR they're covering something up"). Therefore you're bringin drama into a place it wasn't called for, so you're a drama queen. Even if you say something ostensibly on topic but then throw in a jab ("will be interesting to see where he goes but I don't think any teams will want him"), you're a drama queen. You are the reason people complain about this community and you are the reason pros and casters avoid the forums like the plague. So I hope you're proud that you've hopped onto the community's cancerous tumor even while calling yourself a fan of SC2. Please unfurl your panties and stop pretending to have reasonable and legitimate things to say. The mature thing to do is resist your urge to make a negative post.


I can have any opinion I like, thanks.


That line doesn't even mean anything. I can have an opinion that your opinion is wrong. You can have an opinion that my opinion on your opinion is wrong. At the end of the day, opinions are utterly useless and not really worth anything to anyone but the person behind the opinion - if they have nothing of substance to back it up with.

On August 01 2012 04:17 IPA wrote:
I can also express it articulately. I think the fact that Naniwa jumps from team to team in a matter of months is symptomatic of a problem with the player, rather than the teams.


This is an extremely superficial reasoning with an even more so superficial conclusion.

There is no reason at all why the problem would not lie in "teams" rather than the player. Especially given the fact that the player has publicly proven to be committed, hard working, and delivers results - whereas "teams", on the other hand, are much more shady in their nature, and appear to be more marketing companies than competitive teams that they try to present themselves as.

In reality, the problem is that neither side really ever wanted the qualities of the other, or at least they didn't want them sufficiently enough to be able to tolerate the weaknesses.

Signing committed, hard working and successful players is actually secondary to signing a marketable player that can promote your sponsors well and give them maximum exposure.

On the other hand, Nani doesn't want to be a sponsor sweetheart and be a part of a team with no bond or substance (basically Quantic to him was more a sponsor than a team). He wants to become the best and be surrounded by people who want the same both for themselves (as players), and for their players (as a real team would).

On August 01 2012 04:17 IPA wrote:
It speaks to a lack of loyalty and emotional/professional immaturity.


Lack of loyalty, perhaps. But then again, it is questionable whether most of the teams he's been a part of deserve any loyalty besides merely fulfilling the terms of the contract. I personally don't see why businesses (which is all that they are) would deserve any degree of genuine respect and loyalty.

One could argue that being prepared to pursue your own goals and ambitions in the way you believe is correct regardless of the price you must pay is also a sign of maturity, as well as one of strong personal integrity.


I realize there will always be Naniwa apologists and so I will simply say you are of course entitled to your opinion.


That is mighty generous of you, but I really need neither the permission nor encouragement (whatever the intent was) to have an opinion. It's just that I'd rather deal in facts instead, while you seem to prefer running away from them!


I based my initial (and current) opinion on facts actually. Or at least informed conjecture, which is the best we can hope for in the murky world of esports. Naniwa jumps teams; Naniwa often acts like a spoiled child in games (BM, etc.); Naniwa's reasons for leaving are often evasive and vague. For these reasons, I feel like the problem lies in Naniwa's development as a person, and his (lack of) loyalty, rather than any of the plethora of teams he has left.

I also don't root for him because of this. How was that?
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Saber_Rider
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden361 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 23:07:07
July 31 2012 22:52 GMT
#1462
Hope he'll find a team that will allow him to stay in Korea soon! GL Nani!
FFE or die trying
Nevertras
Profile Joined October 2011
United States27 Posts
July 31 2012 23:12 GMT
#1463
Are people seriously arguing over arguing over arguing over opinions of opinions of opinions now? :3

GL Naniwa.
huStl.e
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom104 Posts
July 31 2012 23:29 GMT
#1464
On July 31 2012 06:22 Prixm89 wrote:
6-7 teams in like 1½ year? I love Naniwa, fellow Swede and Brotoss. But man, he needs to stay loyal, I would never get him to my team, knowing that he will stay for a couple of months.


If you had a team (im guessing with a couple of masters players with some decent solid-ish results) and you could get naniwa your profile as a team would increase 100-fold because of it being him.

OT: i think naniwa should probably go independent for a while (if he can). He does struggle to handle himself in the public eye and its a real shame. I just dont think he's a force (personality wise) that quantic would have managed for much longer.
However if naniwa continues to play he'll continue to draw attention becuase of his quality play, IdrA saying he'd be done in e-sports is bollocks and pretty much because IdrA doesn't like him.
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silentdecay01
Profile Joined February 2012
United States106 Posts
July 31 2012 23:48 GMT
#1465
Nani has been very Bm as of late, Trash talking zergs who been owning him in TSL's ect

He need to change his tune and attitude. He crys "zerg imba" Now when he loses to a up comming player whos zerg. He threw a large fit when Recco beat him, he stated "you only won because ur zerg" Nani needs to grow up.
Flume
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden36 Posts
August 01 2012 00:01 GMT
#1466
On August 01 2012 08:48 silentdecay01 wrote:
Nani has been very Bm as of late, Trash talking zergs who been owning him in TSL's ect

He need to change his tune and attitude. He crys "zerg imba" Now when he loses to a up comming player whos zerg. He threw a large fit when Recco beat him, he stated "you only won because ur zerg" Nani needs to grow up.


Are you daft? Have you even read the previous pages? Please don't tell people to grow up when you can't even form a coherent sentence.

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Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
August 01 2012 00:35 GMT
#1467
On August 01 2012 08:29 huStl.e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 06:22 Prixm89 wrote:
6-7 teams in like 1½ year? I love Naniwa, fellow Swede and Brotoss. But man, he needs to stay loyal, I would never get him to my team, knowing that he will stay for a couple of months.


If you had a team (im guessing with a couple of masters players with some decent solid-ish results) and you could get naniwa your profile as a team would increase 100-fold because of it being him.

OT: i think naniwa should probably go independent for a while (if he can). He does struggle to handle himself in the public eye and its a real shame. I just dont think he's a force (personality wise) that quantic would have managed for much longer.
However if naniwa continues to play he'll continue to draw attention becuase of his quality play, IdrA saying he'd be done in e-sports is bollocks and pretty much because IdrA doesn't like him.

On a related note, as a spectator I'd much rather watch and learn about someone like Naniwa than Idra. Idra talks and talks and he's irrelevant in the scene. Nani talks but he's in GSL Code S, twice making it to Ro8.

EG does a great job marketing itself. Their players are great at public speaking. And maybe because of that they have as much or more value than Naniwa as a player. But as again, as a spectator, I'd much rather watch someone like Naniwa play. He has a drive to be the best, and while he does mess up his PR at time, it adds flavour.

Like Tasteless said, this community is pretty bad at times so it's no wonder that many of you are fabricating drama.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 01 2012 01:48 GMT
#1468
On August 01 2012 05:50 dragonborn wrote:
My prediction: Stephano leaves Millenium for EG.

Millenium signs Naniwa.


Honestly, this seems to be one of the more realistic scenarios presented in this thread.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Uzee13
Profile Joined June 2012
United States17 Posts
August 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#1469
I can only see a korean house in his future.
Keep calm and carry on
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
August 01 2012 02:59 GMT
#1470
Not surpising this guy has been jerk during the BW scene. Quantic should be happy this ******* is off their team. Good loss. IMO

User was temp banned for this post.
Master Chief
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 01 2012 03:42 GMT
#1471
MVPNaNiwa
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
August 01 2012 03:46 GMT
#1472
whatever floats his boat. gl nani
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
August 01 2012 03:54 GMT
#1473
On August 01 2012 11:59 BWalma wrote:
Not surpising this guy has been jerk during the BW scene. Quantic should be happy this ******* is off their team. Good loss. IMO


Except he didn't play BW. Nice try trying to fabricate shit talk though.. Really subtle.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
mitrah
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia6 Posts
August 01 2012 04:46 GMT
#1474
A manner Nani? Well that's interesting, good on him!
Apologise for playing that race!
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
August 01 2012 04:56 GMT
#1475
On August 01 2012 11:59 BWalma wrote:
Not surpising this guy has been jerk during the BW scene. Quantic should be happy this ******* is off their team. Good loss. IMO


Nice try.

"Wonderful StarCraft community" at it's best.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
August 01 2012 05:08 GMT
#1476
On August 01 2012 12:54 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 11:59 BWalma wrote:
Not surpising this guy has been jerk during the BW scene. Quantic should be happy this ******* is off their team. Good loss. IMO


Except he didn't play BW. Nice try trying to fabricate shit talk though.. Really subtle.


This. If you're only trying to lay shit and lies on a topic, please dont participate.
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
August 01 2012 05:11 GMT
#1477
Whenever i see someone defend naniwa and check his nationality, im not too surprised and its exactly why

i hate extreme fanboysm. it would be pretty cool to be Naniwa. You can behave like a total dick and theres still people

who defend you
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
August 01 2012 05:29 GMT
#1478
On August 01 2012 14:11 mongmong wrote:
Whenever i see someone defend naniwa and check his nationality, im not too surprised and its exactly why

i hate extreme fanboysm. it would be pretty cool to be Naniwa. You can behave like a total dick and theres still people

who defend you

If you're going to post like that, try to make it a haiku or something neat.

' - ' a
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
August 01 2012 05:39 GMT
#1479
I meant to say WC3 my bad, but yes this guy should remain sponorless ^_^
Master Chief
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
August 01 2012 06:12 GMT
#1480
On August 01 2012 14:11 mongmong wrote:
Whenever i see someone defend naniwa and check his nationality, im not too surprised and its exactly why

i hate extreme fanboysm. it would be pretty cool to be Naniwa. You can behave like a total dick and theres still people

who defend you
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


If you're going to post like that, try to make it a haiku or something neat.

' - ' a



another butthurt fanboy. go cry somewhere else

why did you send me a private messege? I seriouly dont wanna see

garbage even in my private messege.

User was warned for this post
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