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On August 01 2012 01:35 Incomplet wrote:This is rubbish. Idra has to understand that during a BO-X series, all-ins and rushes are part of the game and part of the mind games that players use on each other. Just because a player uses them doesn't mean he has no skill. Fair enough if this player does cheese EVERY game in a BO series, but 1 in 3 seems like the smart choice to me...especially if youre playing up against a greedy player.
This is about naniwa. Plus, idra's not talking about other players, he's saying how he feels he coulda done a lot better if he knew how to deal with the cheeses better.
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On July 31 2012 23:23 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 23:13 Euronyme wrote:On July 31 2012 23:02 Assirra wrote:On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.
lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads. Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality. I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase. Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept. I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo. Sorry but no. This not social excuse really has to go. If you are not social you would simply not talk at all or just sound akward. Naniwa however has attitude problems, insulting tournaments on their very own stage, throwing a game cause he didn't find it important or just this week, balance whining cause he lost in a tournament during the tournament itself. It's great that he is dedicated but if you don't know how to act (aka not like an ass) sooner or later it will backfire. Have you heard of Wayne Rooney? Have you ever heard of Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, or Chad Johnson?
Not me, they probably play in a sport that only Americans watch? Compared to PL who have the eyes of the world.
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On August 01 2012 01:34 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 01:30 Dirtey wrote:On August 01 2012 01:29 Swords wrote:On August 01 2012 01:20 QuanticTheognis wrote:On August 01 2012 01:03 iiGreetings wrote:
whoa man that's crazy. I hope a korean team signs him.. would be great for foreigner hope lol. Regardless all the best to nani! why? They have no money. You would know this better than any of us, but how much does Naniwa actually care about the money? This is the guy who accepted being kicked out of his parents house in order to continue trying to become a pro-gamer, and seems to care more about winning than contracts or teams. If his main focuses right now are gsls and winning, it might make a lot of sense for him to sign with a Korean team. That being said it's Naniwa and you never know where he'll end up. I don't think Naniwa are intrested in a team that can't afford to send him to MLG/dreamhack and so on. He skipped the last few MLG´s and I think, he attendet the Dreamhacks just because they are in sweden - and the next ones are in Spain/Romania.
How does that have anything to do with what I just said?
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On August 01 2012 00:55 NEOtheONE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 00:52 BBMorti wrote:On August 01 2012 00:34 NEOtheONE wrote:On July 31 2012 23:42 how2TL wrote:
You don't have to like Naniwa for whatever reason you goddamn please. But everyone please stop psychoanalyzing him like you have a fuck of an idea what you're doing. It makes you guys doing that look really stupid. I have a degree in Psychology and going to have MA in Counseling so can I psychoanalyze Naniwa? Oh god... the internet. I couldn't resist making the comment because I actually have an idea of what I am doing. Lighten up. Sheesh.
If you think you can psychoanalyze him based on what other people write about him on the Internet, I'm not so sure you do.
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Cant be EG.. sure they just got a new sponsor and all but i dont think he will join EG, too much drama.
Will be interesting to see where he goes
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On August 01 2012 01:56 Dirtey wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 01:34 Xoronius wrote:On August 01 2012 01:30 Dirtey wrote:On August 01 2012 01:29 Swords wrote:On August 01 2012 01:20 QuanticTheognis wrote:On August 01 2012 01:03 iiGreetings wrote:
whoa man that's crazy. I hope a korean team signs him.. would be great for foreigner hope lol. Regardless all the best to nani! why? They have no money. You would know this better than any of us, but how much does Naniwa actually care about the money? This is the guy who accepted being kicked out of his parents house in order to continue trying to become a pro-gamer, and seems to care more about winning than contracts or teams. If his main focuses right now are gsls and winning, it might make a lot of sense for him to sign with a Korean team. That being said it's Naniwa and you never know where he'll end up. I don't think Naniwa are intrested in a team that can't afford to send him to MLG/dreamhack and so on. He skipped the last few MLG´s and I think, he attendet the Dreamhacks just because they are in sweden - and the next ones are in Spain/Romania. How does that have anything to do with what I just said?
It's pretty related because, as he said, Naniwa didn't require the resources to do what you said he would most likely want - the ability to participate in worldwide tournaments. He stayed put and kept practicing for GSL; that doesn't take a whole lot of travel money.
Though it all depends on who he ends up with and what his long-term goals are. He seems to focus a lot on the top-tier tournament (GSL), but that could always change.
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On August 01 2012 01:57 VoirDire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 00:55 NEOtheONE wrote:On August 01 2012 00:52 BBMorti wrote:On August 01 2012 00:34 NEOtheONE wrote:On July 31 2012 23:42 how2TL wrote:
You don't have to like Naniwa for whatever reason you goddamn please. But everyone please stop psychoanalyzing him like you have a fuck of an idea what you're doing. It makes you guys doing that look really stupid. I have a degree in Psychology and going to have MA in Counseling so can I psychoanalyze Naniwa? Oh god... the internet. I couldn't resist making the comment because I actually have an idea of what I am doing. Lighten up. Sheesh. If you think you can psychoanalyze him based on what other people write about him on the Internet, I'm not so sure you do.
i think that you didn't see he was joking?
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^ Where did he say he was joking? He thinks that because he has an undergrad in a field people take just so they can say they graduated college and is thinking about getting a Masters, he has 'an idea of what [he is doing]'. He's the one who should lighten up.
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1400 posts about naniwa leaving a team ? WTF is going on in this thread ?
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On August 01 2012 01:23 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 01:22 b0mBerMan wrote:On August 01 2012 00:58 YourOldBuddy wrote:On August 01 2012 00:34 NEOtheONE wrote:On July 31 2012 23:42 how2TL wrote:
You don't have to like Naniwa for whatever reason you goddamn please. But everyone please stop psychoanalyzing him like you have a fuck of an idea what you're doing. It makes you guys doing that look really stupid. I have a degree in Psychology and going to have MA in Counseling so can I psychoanalyze Naniwa? Nope. Psychologists don't know the first thing about psychoanalysis. lol wtf is this It's a joke.
No. No joke. Psychoanalysis is practiced by those who follow the teachings of Freud and pals. They are sometimes referred to as psychoanalysts and proper psychologists would have nothing to do with that sort of crackpot/pipe science.
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On August 01 2012 02:17 AzoriuS wrote:
1400 posts about naniwa leaving a team ? WTF is going on in this thread ?
we love drama!
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Everyone who thinks Prime will pick him up is rather stupid...they' have four GSL champions, why would they pick a foreigner who is obviously at his peak and doesn't show any potential to improve?
I believe he'll become a free agent(something we begin to see more and more) and will probably stay in Mana's house in the near future.
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On August 01 2012 02:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:17 AzoriuS wrote:
1400 posts about naniwa leaving a team ? WTF is going on in this thread ? we love drama!
YOU KNOW WHO DOESNT LOVE DRAMA? MVP THATS WHO HES PRACTICING RIGHT NOW 23434AODFJAKDFLFJKJAF....
...jk hes reading this too :D
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On August 01 2012 02:26 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Everyone who thinks Prime will pick him up is rather stupid...they' have four GSL champions, why would they pick a foreigner who is obviously at his peak and doesn't show any potential to improve?
I believe he'll become a free agent(something we begin to see more and more) and will probably stay in Mana's house in the near future.
Ermmm, no team has yet to have four GSL champions, especially not Prime...........
Who are you to say that NaNiwa is at his peak? A repeat performance of RO8 at GSL is not a peak, especially when he nearly beat DRG with a score of 3-2. It is far too early to state a player's peak, especially at GSL.
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well, didn't read all of it yet but as expected this thread is turning out hilarious
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If I were to guess I'd say he'll join a korean team.
edit: just saw the ICA news..... Oh my f:in god that's so awsome!
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On August 01 2012 01:55 SayTT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 23:23 Dosey wrote:On July 31 2012 23:13 Euronyme wrote:On July 31 2012 23:02 Assirra wrote:On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.
lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads. Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality. I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase. Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept. I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo. Sorry but no. This not social excuse really has to go. If you are not social you would simply not talk at all or just sound akward. Naniwa however has attitude problems, insulting tournaments on their very own stage, throwing a game cause he didn't find it important or just this week, balance whining cause he lost in a tournament during the tournament itself. It's great that he is dedicated but if you don't know how to act (aka not like an ass) sooner or later it will backfire. Have you heard of Wayne Rooney? Have you ever heard of Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, or Chad Johnson? Not me, they probably play in a sport that only Americans watch? Compared to PL who have the eyes of the world.
Because when comparing completely irrelevant sports to starcraft, the popularity of the sport makes all the difference and makes the post containing the more popular irrelevant sport less irrelevant, right?
Trolls will be trolls...
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On August 01 2012 02:13 Belial88 wrote:
^ Where did he say he was joking? He thinks that because he has an undergrad in a field people take just so they can say they graduated college and is thinking about getting a Masters, he has 'an idea of what [he is doing]'. He's the one who should lighten up.
lmao 'where did he say he was joking?'
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my god BIG NEWS... surely he has another team already lined up.... unless he had a paddy and done it in one of his strops... love a bad guy though haha..
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On August 01 2012 02:06 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 01:57 VoirDire wrote:On August 01 2012 00:55 NEOtheONE wrote:On August 01 2012 00:52 BBMorti wrote:On August 01 2012 00:34 NEOtheONE wrote:On July 31 2012 23:42 how2TL wrote:
You don't have to like Naniwa for whatever reason you goddamn please. But everyone please stop psychoanalyzing him like you have a fuck of an idea what you're doing. It makes you guys doing that look really stupid. I have a degree in Psychology and going to have MA in Counseling so can I psychoanalyze Naniwa? Oh god... the internet. I couldn't resist making the comment because I actually have an idea of what I am doing. Lighten up. Sheesh. If you think you can psychoanalyze him based on what other people write about him on the Internet, I'm not so sure you do. i think that you didn't see he was joking?
Clearly humor is lost on some people. Also, where did the other guy get the idea of me using what people write about him as the basis I would use to analyze him? Most of us have seen him play and have also heard what other pro SC2 players say about him. If you are going to make a personal attack on me at least pay attention to the fact that there's a lot of information out there and not just what people write on TL.
On August 01 2012 02:13 Belial88 wrote:
^ Where did he say he was joking? He thinks that because he has an undergrad in a field people take just so they can say they graduated college and is thinking about getting a Masters, he has 'an idea of what [he is doing]'. He's the one who should lighten up.
Clearly he's mad or something.
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