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CV-Mackh
Profile Joined April 2012
France102 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 15:00:31
July 31 2012 14:57 GMT
#1301
I think A player had to be judged by his play, which in Nani's case, as he Showed in many occasions, is godly
This is just a lose, I hope he recovers, I feel bad for Quantic too, they lost quite an asset in the battle.

Carry on Nani please ! I find your style inspiring and I am learning a lot from you, keep on training, and get that goddamn GSL championship
Just a few more drones I sware !
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 15:01:51
July 31 2012 15:00 GMT
#1302
quit esport


One of the most least likely suggestions in the topic so far.


I don't know how he can stay in korea without a team for a very long time, some time off, a break from korea is not impossible.


I feel bad for Quantic too, they lost quite an asset in the battle.


I'm not sure they regret him so much. they will not say so of course, but, like i say before, korea only focus (gsl) is not the best for any foreign team.

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 31 2012 15:04 GMT
#1303
On July 31 2012 23:40 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 23:23 Dosey wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:13 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:02 Assirra wrote:
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.

Sorry but no.
This not social excuse really has to go. If you are not social you would simply not talk at all or just sound akward.
Naniwa however has attitude problems, insulting tournaments on their very own stage, throwing a game cause he didn't find it important or just this week, balance whining cause he lost in a tournament during the tournament itself.
It's great that he is dedicated but if you don't know how to act (aka not like an ass) sooner or later it will backfire.


Have you heard of Wayne Rooney?

Have you ever heard of Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, or Chad Johnson?


It was a rhetorical question. Everyone in Europe knows who Wayne Rooney is, and the person I quoted was from Europe. What are you on about?
The point is that he's famous for yelling and swearing at the ref and forcing the sound input to be muted when it's close to him while playing. He's still one of the best players in the UK, and is treated as such.

There's absolutely 0 interest in American hand egg here, so would you care to elaborate how your comment is on topic?


You provided Rooney as an example of acting like and ass and it not backfiring.

I provided three examples of acting like and ass and it backfiring. Each of the three mentioned players were treated as poisons to their teams regardless of their skill.

No need for the condescending attitude or the thinly veiled insult.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 15:06:16
July 31 2012 15:04 GMT
#1304
Have fun with ICA, GL
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 31 2012 15:08 GMT
#1305
SK_Naniwa inc
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
July 31 2012 15:09 GMT
#1306


I'm not sure they regret him so much. they will not say so of course, but, like i say before, korea only focus (gsl) is not the best for any foreign team.


Seeing as Naniwa gets more attention outside of Korea than almost every single SC2 player due to his GSL-performance I have to say that I think that's a bogus argument.

I wish Naniwa luck. He's an amazing player and one of the biggest foreigner hopes.
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
July 31 2012 15:24 GMT
#1307
I think A player had to be judged by his play, which in Nani's case, as he Showed in many occasions, is godly
This is just a lose, I hope he recovers, I feel bad for Quantic too, they lost quite an asset in the battle.

Carry on Nani please ! I find your style inspiring and I am learning a lot from you, keep on training, and get that goddamn GSL championship
Last edit: 2012-08-01 00:00:31


Godly? care to elaborate on how he is so godly? Oh apart from his god-awful pvz of course.

if he is playing godly, then what does MVP make? No, his play aint godly, word like that should be used only for players

like Mvp, a 4 time gsl champ. Naniwa even loses to no name zerg how is his play godly?

If naniwa even wins a major tournament, GSL or others etc, then we can decide. There has been shittons of players who made it to the GSL code s ro8 , and yet no one called them good. ive actually seen people who werent surprised at
seeds run in GSL last season. Im pretty sure that if naniwa won this gsl, we wouldve been praised as protoss bonjwa and heard his fanboys say something like "MC is a scrub compared to naniwa" just like stephano fanboys came out of nowhere and praised stephano as the no1 zerg in the world when DRG got roll'd by MC 3-0 in the ro4.
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
July 31 2012 15:24 GMT
#1308
All the speculation and bullshit in this thread is exactly why Naniwa said he avoids 'shit places like this' (not his exact words, but pretty damn close).

Jesus christ.
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ToAn8
Profile Joined February 2012
52 Posts
July 31 2012 15:26 GMT
#1309
ICA_NaNi
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
July 31 2012 15:28 GMT
#1310
On August 01 2012 00:24 Belial88 wrote:
All the speculation and bullshit in this thread is exactly why Naniwa said he avoids 'shit places like this' (not his exact words, but pretty damn close).

Jesus christ.

The adressline at the top says teamliquid.net but otherwise I would have sworn this was the battle.net forums...
CV-Mackh
Profile Joined April 2012
France102 Posts
July 31 2012 15:29 GMT
#1311
On August 01 2012 00:24 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think A player had to be judged by his play, which in Nani's case, as he Showed in many occasions, is godly
This is just a lose, I hope he recovers, I feel bad for Quantic too, they lost quite an asset in the battle.

Carry on Nani please ! I find your style inspiring and I am learning a lot from you, keep on training, and get that goddamn GSL championship
Last edit: 2012-08-01 00:00:31


Godly? care to elaborate on how he is so godly? Oh apart from his god-awful pvz of course.

if he is playing godly, then what does MVP make? No, his play aint godly, word like that should be used only for players

like Mvp, a 4 time gsl champ. Naniwa even loses to no name zerg how is his play godly?

If naniwa even wins a major tournament, GSL or others etc, then we can decide. There has been shittons of players who made it to the GSL code s ro8 , and yet no one called them good. ive actually seen people who werent surprised at
seeds run in GSL last season. Im pretty sure that if naniwa won this gsl, we wouldve been praised as protoss bonjwa and heard his fanboys say something like "MC is a scrub compared to naniwa" just like stephano fanboys came out of nowhere and praised stephano as the no1 zerg in the world when DRG got roll'd by MC 3-0 in the ro4.


MVP and others of his kind are actually the makers the gods themselfs, sorry, but I can't help the feeling that reaching such a lvl in this game requires some unatural powers that us simple mortals can't anderstand
Just a few more drones I sware !
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 31 2012 15:32 GMT
#1312
This thread is full of the same people that cry in lr every time nani wins a game. Hilarious how much you care about every little thing he says and does. I'm sure he'll work something out, but even if he quits that would be fine. He's already accomplished a lot and sc2 is not a lifetime career.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
July 31 2012 15:34 GMT
#1313
On July 31 2012 23:42 how2TL wrote:
You don't have to like Naniwa for whatever reason you goddamn please. But everyone please stop psychoanalyzing him like you have a fuck of an idea what you're doing. It makes you guys doing that look really stupid.


I have a degree in Psychology and going to have MA in Counseling so can I psychoanalyze Naniwa?
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
halfies
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom327 Posts
July 31 2012 15:34 GMT
#1314
On July 31 2012 23:40 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 23:23 Dosey wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:13 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:02 Assirra wrote:
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.

Sorry but no.
This not social excuse really has to go. If you are not social you would simply not talk at all or just sound akward.
Naniwa however has attitude problems, insulting tournaments on their very own stage, throwing a game cause he didn't find it important or just this week, balance whining cause he lost in a tournament during the tournament itself.
It's great that he is dedicated but if you don't know how to act (aka not like an ass) sooner or later it will backfire.


Have you heard of Wayne Rooney?

Have you ever heard of Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, or Chad Johnson?


It was a rhetorical question. Everyone in Europe knows who Wayne Rooney is, and the person I quoted was from Europe. What are you on about?
The point is that he's famous for yelling and swearing at the ref and forcing the sound input to be muted when it's close to him while playing. He's still one of the best players in the UK, and is treated as such.

There's absolutely 0 interest in American hand egg here, so would you care to elaborate how your comment is on topic?

stop acting like a tool. there was no interest in football until you bought it up.
and just because football lets people get away with silly shit, doesnt mean starcraft should. I hope you can see how stupid an argument that is.
xxAoPxx
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany25 Posts
July 31 2012 15:37 GMT
#1315
On July 31 2012 21:15 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Therefor I enjoy watching Naniwa play and can relate to his "problems". If this is because I come from Sweden? Dunno, maybe it is.


I'm not from Sweden and do like Nani. I think what he needs though is someone to set him straight and keep him focused when he's about to lose it again, like Rotterdam did during IEM Kiev... SaSe being younger and AFAIK less experienced might not have been up to the task. Give Nani a true mentor - like Grubby for Feast if you will - and he might be one step closer to being complete.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
July 31 2012 15:37 GMT
#1316
Maybe Naniwa should start his own team, like Grubby. It would be so much easier for him and he could easily partner with a korean team like SK.MC has done.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
July 31 2012 15:43 GMT
#1317
On August 01 2012 00:34 halfies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 23:40 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:23 Dosey wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:13 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:02 Assirra wrote:
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.

Sorry but no.
This not social excuse really has to go. If you are not social you would simply not talk at all or just sound akward.
Naniwa however has attitude problems, insulting tournaments on their very own stage, throwing a game cause he didn't find it important or just this week, balance whining cause he lost in a tournament during the tournament itself.
It's great that he is dedicated but if you don't know how to act (aka not like an ass) sooner or later it will backfire.


Have you heard of Wayne Rooney?

Have you ever heard of Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, or Chad Johnson?


It was a rhetorical question. Everyone in Europe knows who Wayne Rooney is, and the person I quoted was from Europe. What are you on about?
The point is that he's famous for yelling and swearing at the ref and forcing the sound input to be muted when it's close to him while playing. He's still one of the best players in the UK, and is treated as such.

There's absolutely 0 interest in American hand egg here, so would you care to elaborate how your comment is on topic?

stop acting like a tool. there was no interest in football until you bought it up.
and just because football lets people get away with silly shit, doesnt mean starcraft should. I hope you can see how stupid an argument that is.


What interest in football? Did you get interested in football because I brought it up?
Sports in general let people get away with stupid shit, because fans value skill above how players conduct themselves. For some reason skill is valued way way way less than charisma in starcraft, and the focus is entirely with the people who can talk, rather then the people who can play. It's just an observation of something that I personally dislike.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
kskusanagi
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)133 Posts
July 31 2012 15:44 GMT
#1318
Love Nani! We'll support you whereever you go man!!!
It's never to late to realize you're not on time
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 15:53:56
July 31 2012 15:50 GMT
#1319
On August 01 2012 00:43 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 00:34 halfies wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:40 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:23 Dosey wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:13 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 23:02 Assirra wrote:
On July 31 2012 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:57 synaptik wrote:
jesus, all these posts saying naniwa has a "tough personality" or is "misunderstood"...lets call spade a space, the guy is unprofessional, selfish, and completely disrespectful towards teams, tournament organizers and opponents. these are not just momentary lapses in judgment; hes got a lengthy and well documented history of such behaviour dating back to the wc3 days. regardless of how he performed in the recent GSL the guy is just plain unlikeable outside of sweden and a marketing nightmare.

lol@ the swedes coming out to blindly defend him though, gotta love it, the swedish population is like 5% of TL but 50% of the posts in naniwa threads.


Well the swedish only stream of WCS had +6k viewers just 2-3 days ago so I think we might be more then 5%, but yeah many none swedish people find it hard to accept Naniwas personality.

I respect a person that completely dedicates himself towards his goal without taking other aspects into account. I dunno if this is connected to being Swedish but I can relate myself to Naniwa, more so then for instance Sase.

Although I understand that people find Naniwa odd, I do not have much empathy for people that keep whining about Naniwas "culturally inappropriate" behavior. Some people are not very social, that includes Naniwa, that means he does stuff that seems odd to most people. Cause he is dedicated to be the best in the world at what he does and other things are secondary. This seems to be really hard for people to accept.

I even think it is entertaining to have a personality like Naniwa in SC2. Would be pretty boring if everyone was like TLO or Sheet imo.

Sorry but no.
This not social excuse really has to go. If you are not social you would simply not talk at all or just sound akward.
Naniwa however has attitude problems, insulting tournaments on their very own stage, throwing a game cause he didn't find it important or just this week, balance whining cause he lost in a tournament during the tournament itself.
It's great that he is dedicated but if you don't know how to act (aka not like an ass) sooner or later it will backfire.


Have you heard of Wayne Rooney?

Have you ever heard of Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, or Chad Johnson?


It was a rhetorical question. Everyone in Europe knows who Wayne Rooney is, and the person I quoted was from Europe. What are you on about?
The point is that he's famous for yelling and swearing at the ref and forcing the sound input to be muted when it's close to him while playing. He's still one of the best players in the UK, and is treated as such.

There's absolutely 0 interest in American hand egg here, so would you care to elaborate how your comment is on topic?

stop acting like a tool. there was no interest in football until you bought it up.
and just because football lets people get away with silly shit, doesnt mean starcraft should. I hope you can see how stupid an argument that is.


What interest in football? Did you get interested in football because I brought it up?
Sports in general let people get away with stupid shit, because fans value skill above how players conduct themselves. For some reason skill is valued way way way less than charisma in starcraft, and the focus is entirely with the people who can talk, rather then the people who can play. It's just an observation of something that I personally dislike.

Maybe but why would you take enough with skills if you have someone that has skills + has no aggressive emotion bursts as a person to be a fan off?
Hell, MC loves to smack talk all the time and you don't see people get riled for it. Because he knows when its required he acts like he should like in any professional business. Can you imagine him at the GSL finals going "Cheesy noob" when seed rushed him twice?
Not to mention Naniwa might be big, but he is not that huge so comparing him to someone who is apperantly european famous (never cared to watch sport so dunno) seems overkill.
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
July 31 2012 15:52 GMT
#1320
On August 01 2012 00:34 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 23:42 how2TL wrote:
You don't have to like Naniwa for whatever reason you goddamn please. But everyone please stop psychoanalyzing him like you have a fuck of an idea what you're doing. It makes you guys doing that look really stupid.


I have a degree in Psychology and going to have MA in Counseling so can I psychoanalyze Naniwa?

Oh god... the internet.
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