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nemod
Sweden10 Posts
GSL-Team maybe? | ||
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Kyrao
United States161 Posts
On July 31 2012 10:12 Anncoulpable wrote: Didn't DRG need a seed to get into Code S? It's been a long time, but if I remember correctly, he won a seed through an MLG. Not that DRG doesn't deserve Code S, but discounting Naniwa's achievements in Code S because of a seed is pretty lame. You might be thinking about MC... | ||
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holypalaswe
Sweden28 Posts
SK recently dropped their CS 1.6 team so perhaps they got some money to spend. | ||
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dieselnerd
United States42 Posts
On July 31 2012 06:23 The Final Boss wrote: I guess IdrA was right in his Real Talk haha. No, he wasn't. | ||
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Gates
Canada12 Posts
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
Slayers has been my favorite team since they lost to Zenex in the first team league. I'm not jumping ship just because they used JYP a couple of times in the team league. I'm also not going to like EG just because JYP scored a few wins. | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
On July 31 2012 10:12 Anncoulpable wrote: Didn't DRG need a seed to get into Code S? It's been a long time, but if I remember correctly, he won a seed through an MLG. Not that DRG doesn't deserve Code S, but discounting Naniwa's achievements in Code S because of a seed is pretty lame. Actually it proves the point. People are saying there are plenty of players capable of progressing far in Code S but aren't able to actually get there. DRG struggled to qualify for Code A and start his success in the individual leagues. His seed into Code S from his MLG results got him in there where he was able to perform well. If Naniwa never got a seed he wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the Ro8 of Code S. Naniwa is a solid player but no one can say he's one of the best just because of two Ro8s. | ||
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nakedsurfer
Canada500 Posts
No It was DRG who never made it past the qualifiers. He got invited into it. MC got knocked out and got back with the MLG seed. I think this is a good example of great players not being able to pass the qualifiers. Just because NaniWa didn't go through the qualifiers to get in doesn't mean he sucks. Especially since he's been the only foreigner in code S the last 2 seasons. Huk used to stay in Code S but not in the new format. When the format changed, Huk got knocked out of Code S. So really, the only foreigner to survive the new format is NaniWa. That should be a feat in itself. | ||
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dieselnerd
United States42 Posts
MC got a seed from placing second at MLG Orlando. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On July 31 2012 09:56 ikh wrote: considering he's 90% surely one of the five most valuable foreigner players in the whole sc2 scene, i find the latter part hard to believe. he's got some of the best face recognition, a well-known personality and best recent results (arguably best overall results) as a foreigner in korea. oh and the first part is kind of hard to swallow as well unless you're suggesting code A is harder than code S these days, in which case i should really get back to watching code A games :o The problem is, he almost runs out of team to join, well, at least high tier teams. 2010-04 — 2010-05mTw 2010-05 — 2010-08Serious Gaming 2010-08 — 2010-11MyM 2010-11 — 2010-11Power Gaming 2010-11 — 2011-01Team Empire 2011-01 — 2011-09Dignitas 2011-09 — 2011-12compLexity 2011-12 — 2012-07Quantic Gaming There're SK and Fnatic left for him, and only SK makes sense. | ||
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ikh
United Kingdom251 Posts
On July 31 2012 10:11 Dosey wrote: Top 5 in terms of skill? Absolutely. Top 5 most valuable? Definitely not. He doesn't travel much to foreign tournaments. He does average/poorly when he does travel. He doesn't have that good of an attitude. He doesn't really stream. He doesn't cast or contribute to the community. And a hell of a lot of people hate him, pros and koreans included. Plus the cons involved when dishing out the money for a foreign player in the GSL when you are a foreign team with foreign sponsors. Considering all of those factors, I'd say he's one of the least valuable top players out there. The only draw for him being the possibility of being the first foreigner to win a GSL, which would be rather huge for any team and sponsor, regardless of where the sponsors are located. i guess you count value in a different way than i, let's just say half your arguments i would say work for him rather than against him. his antifans watch his games even more than his fans. from a business perspective a sc2 team is interested in booking players who are a) as famous as possible and b) as skilled as possible. naniwa is unarguably top tier in both of the two. "attitude", "contributions to community" and "likability" have fuck all to do in determining player $value and salaries at the end of the day. i mean if i picked the four names in sc2 i figured were most valuable i'd say idra, huk, naniwa and stephano. if nani's one of the least valuable top players, whatever that means, where would he be placed? along with dimaga or kas or something? thorzain can show great games, but how many of the people watching them even know his name (i do) much less anything about what he's like behind the scenes? there are no other current foreigner top players with a combination of fame and results than nani and stephano, really (idra and huk are currently valued for their fame, not play) | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On July 31 2012 10:18 dieselnerd wrote: MC got a seed from placing second at MLG Orlando. Both of them got to Code S because of Seeding from last year's MLG-GSL exchange. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Naniwa's volatile personality + being a hot property Good luck to him, I hope he settles down on some team for more than a few months | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
wish you the best of luck johan! | ||
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DarkPie
United States42 Posts
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Angelavenger
United States59 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On July 31 2012 10:36 DarkPie wrote: Naniwa is already in a team, a new team, see here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357046 You have to be a troll o.O no way someone someone still thinks this is real O.o | ||
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dieselnerd
United States42 Posts
On July 31 2012 10:31 RaiKageRyu wrote: MC got his from placing second at Orlando.Both of them got to Code S because of Seeding from last year's MLG-GSL exchange. | ||
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
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