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powerfulcheeses
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada101 Posts
July 30 2012 22:47 GMT
#621
maybe this answers the question? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357046
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 22:48:46
July 30 2012 22:48 GMT
#622
010-04 — 2010-05
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I'd say his choices are limited. Maybe he's just trying to be cute:

MTW, SG, MYM, PG, TE, D, C, QG

can we build sth from that? Or do the whole team names spell something out?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
July 30 2012 22:48 GMT
#623
On July 31 2012 07:43 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:32 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:25 Euronyme wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:16 UniquE. wrote:
I can bet he is joining a SC1 BW Team not sure which one but Im a betting man

I will take this bet anyday of the week!

BW teams hold a higher standard for their players. They won't go near a player like Naniwa.


He's arguably the best foreigner, and currently 8th best in the world. That's pretty high standards.

by Standards I didn't mean playing results. I meant personality wise. Kespa teams are not going to want a whiny BM team hopper with a bad reputation. 0% chance a Kespa team touches him. Also he is not 8th best in the world -.- yes he has proven he is a solid player by staying in Code S, but he is not top 8 in the world....


So you have another metric but wins in the global starcraft league? You have a "good-o-meter" at home with your own top list? He's ro8 GSL so he's top 8.
It's such a pity SC2 is such a young sport that being bad at the game but good at doing interviews make teams more likely to pick you up than a player that's sick good at the game but bad at interviews.

Two decent runs in Code S doesn't make you a top 8 player.... Inca made it to the finals for fuck sake.

And it's not that he is just bad at interviews... its his personality as a whole. He has a terrible reputation in Korea.


Top 8 = top 8. If you win the world championship in football, you're considered the best until the next championship. I don't see how starcraft is different.

Take a look at Wayne Rooney when it comes to terrible PR. Imo conduct shouldn't matter as much as results and skill when it comes to sports. That's just what I think though. I'm sure there are tonnes of people who would prefer the American wrestling approach rather than a legitimate sport.

Starcraft is not football. and GSL isn't the only league(Though I agree it holds the most weight). In starcraft you can't just look at one or two tournies and proclaim someone is the best. That's fucked up. Not to mention his runs haven't even been THAT great. Apart from playing a couple of Protoss(Lol PvP) he managed to dodge most big names and lost to the ones he ran into...

Again I think Naniwa is a good player. But he is not top 8 in the world. No chance in hell.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
July 30 2012 22:48 GMT
#624
On July 31 2012 07:40 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:39 Demorase wrote:


Idra was right, once again.

Like it was said before, many many times, Nani wasnt kicked/fired, he left by his own choice.

So, Idra was wrong.

You should be aware that a public press release isn't always the truth about a situation.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 30 2012 22:49 GMT
#625
On July 31 2012 07:46 umade wrote:
Nevermind.

I think it'll be SK. He wants to go to events. Quantic can't send him to events. SK just ditched their 1.6 team, saving alot of cash.

I don't know if I should keep answering to people with 2 posts but anyway ... he won't join SK because they don't have a teamhouse in korea. And naniwa wants one.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 30 2012 22:49 GMT
#626
EG.SaSe, EG.Nani, LOLJK, I hope they go to Startale together so they can be like Fenix was before he fell out.
User was warned for too many mimes.
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
July 30 2012 22:49 GMT
#627
"Left by his own choice"..oh yeah, for sure...Quantic searched a way and finally has found it. No offense here but they wanted to get rid of him and thats all.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
July 30 2012 22:49 GMT
#628
On July 31 2012 07:46 MurdersaurusRex wrote:
I would be annoyed if he went to EG. After the amusement wore off, of course




God people he is not going to be going to EG. I mean he is actually good at the game

Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
July 30 2012 22:49 GMT
#629
On July 31 2012 07:46 Ryler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:43 Demorase wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:40 Bashion wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:39 Demorase wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLsAbIiRVOk

Idra was right, once again.

Like it was said before, many many times, Nani wasnt kicked/fired, he left by his own choice.

So, Idra was wrong.


Nah, I'd be willing to bet he left cause they were about to fire him sooner or later, their relationship must have been shit from the get-go since the probe rush incident.


Thank god we have such renown experts as yourself here that have the insides of every scoop in SC2.

Wait, who are you again?


Thanks mate, that's just what I do
DrHiggins
Profile Joined April 2012
United States26 Posts
July 30 2012 22:49 GMT
#630
Startale.Naniwa PLEASE!!!@!FEDF@!#1
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#631
On July 31 2012 07:46 Latringuden wrote:
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On July 31 2012 07:37 NoGasfOu wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:25 The KY wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:14 Zane wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:10 The KY wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:04 NoGasfOu wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:00 karpo wrote:
On July 31 2012 06:57 NoGasfOu wrote:
No Korean team is going to pick up Naniwa. They have many players in Code B that are better than him, and they're not sending any of them to foreign tournaments. Don't think they would spend the money to fly Naniwa around. If Naniwa doesn't find a Korean team to stay, his skill will decrease and will probably be eliminated from the GSL next season.


Don't wanna sound like a Naniwa fanboy, but alot of code b players that are better? Sound like you just don't like the guy. He has gotten to ro8 twice now...

Naniwa receiver GSL bailout seeds 5 or 6 times, iirc. If any code B player had received that many free seeds, he would've won a GSL title already.


So any player who has been in the GSL Code A/S five or six times has won a GSL title?

Even the Koreans admit Naniwa is really good so maybe it's time to stop referencing the age old Code A record.


How many times did he lose in Code A? 3? Maybe if he gets a 3rd ro8 in a row next season they'll seed him directly in the semifinals.


I don't get it.
People can say what they want but Ro8 twice in a row is pretty indisputable proof that he's Code S level. The fact that he lost a few times in Code A ages and ages ago is of no relevance to that fact.

SC2 is pretty random. Any code B can beat any code A or S and vise versa. It's just a matter of whoever receives the most opportunities and free seeds. No players on Earth got seeded into tournametns more than Naniwa, Idra, Huk and Stephano. Once you've reached a level, you can beat anyone on any given day with SC2. Getting hyped up and bailout seeds are what makes the difference.


So why aren't the code B players in code S? Why has MVP won 4 gsl code s titles, Nestea 3 and MC 2? Are they just better at rolling a dice? While there is a healty amount of competition and a few upsets here and there the better players are the ones who win the most tournaments and are consistantly in top 8. And we really don't have that many players that can brag about actually winning offline tournaments. Naniwa, Huk, Stephano and Idra are among those few, Thorzain is another. Which is why they have recieved seeds. Just like MC and Polt got seeded back into Code S. Because they friggin win. Alot.


DRG was stuck in code A until he got seeded in. naniwa couldnt even make it out of code A until he got seeded in, and then he made Ro8 twice. A lot of top korean players once seeded in showed they can hang in code S. basically mechanical skill is irrelevant in sc2, because all the code S players have pretty much reached the skill ceiling hence why its so volatile and champions can get knocked out of Code S in the blink of an eye and no names can catapult into Code S, only to fall back into code B after a few months. The skill levels of everyone in code A and S are roughly the same, so anybody can beat anybody else.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#632
On July 31 2012 07:42 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:40 Bashion wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:39 Demorase wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLsAbIiRVOk

Idra was right, once again.

Like it was said before, many many times, Nani wasnt kicked/fired, he left by his own choice.

So, Idra was wrong.

That or Quantic made it sound like naniwa left on his own. But oh, people always believe everything they read.

it honestly doesn't make much sense to just let Naniwa go. If he had another team lined up, Quantic would ask for a buy out. I really don't think Naniwa just asked to be released and Quantic said "OK Naniwa thats cool. gl in teh future" Contracts exist for a reason.

Clearly something soured in this relationship. Now naniwa is not training along side his bff Sase and isn't in the StarTale house which he seemed to enjoy.

As for where he will go? Who knows. Dignitas didn't re-sign him because he's too difficult. coL dropped him for the same reason which is how he got on Quantic. Quantic just released him. He doesn't fit EG (yes there is more to sc2 than winning, which btw Naniwa doesn't do a lot of. Ro8 GSL isn't winning, its a great performance, but he hasn't followed it up anywhere else).

I really have no idea where he will end up. I'd imagine he wants to stay in Korea since he is still in Code S and likes training there. Maybe Fnatic?
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Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
July 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#633
On July 31 2012 07:48 Timerly wrote:
Show nested quote +
010-04 — 2010-05
mTw

2010-05 — 2010-08
Serious Gaming

2010-08 — 2010-11
MyM

2010-11 — 2010-11
Power Gaming

2010-11 — 2011-01
Team Empire

2011-01 — 2011-09
Dignitas

2011-09 — 2011-12
compLexity

2011-12 — 2012-07
Quantic Gaming


I'd say his choices are limited. Maybe he's just trying to be cute:

MTW, SG, MYM, PG, TE, D, C, QG

can we build sth from that? Or do the whole team names spell something out?


We need some vowels in there, come on Naniwa you can do it :p
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
July 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#634
On July 31 2012 07:49 DrHiggins wrote:
Startale.Naniwa PLEASE!!!@!FEDF@!#1

As stated probably atleast 10 times already in this thread(If not more) Naniwa said on twitter he will NOT goto Startale.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 22:51:39
July 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#635
On July 31 2012 07:46 umade wrote:
Nevermind.

I think it'll be SK. He wants to go to events. Quantic can't send him to events. SK just ditched their 1.6 team, saving alot of cash.


It's still https://twitter.com/quanticnani

Although there are NO tweets about StarTale there so either he removed that tweet or it was fake from the beginning. Last tweet is to WhiteRa.


EDIT: Nvm, I found the StarTale-tweet.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
July 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#636
On July 31 2012 07:49 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:46 umade wrote:
Nevermind.

I think it'll be SK. He wants to go to events. Quantic can't send him to events. SK just ditched their 1.6 team, saving alot of cash.

I don't know if I should keep answering to people with 2 posts but anyway ... he won't join SK because they don't have a teamhouse in korea. And naniwa wants one.

Being an IM fan, you should probably be aware that SK has a partnership with IM, which would allow him to stay in the teamhouse if they so desired it.
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LikeOhMyGod
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 22:51:32
July 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#637
LG-IM.NaNiWa bromance with Nestea hyung.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#638
On July 31 2012 07:47 powerfulcheeses wrote:
maybe this answers the question? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357046

Why are you trying to act so high and mighty when you can't even detect a troll ?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
July 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#639
On July 31 2012 07:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:40 Bashion wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:39 Demorase wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLsAbIiRVOk

Idra was right, once again.

Like it was said before, many many times, Nani wasnt kicked/fired, he left by his own choice.

So, Idra was wrong.

You should be aware that a public press release isn't always the truth about a situation.


And sometimes it is? Not saying it's the case here, but guessing that in every occasion gets kinda pointless doesn't it? Guess we'll just see in the future.
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#640
On July 31 2012 07:49 ArcadeR wrote:
"Left by his own choice"..oh yeah, for sure...Quantic searched a way and finally has found it. No offense here but they wanted to get rid of him and thats all.

Got any inside info, or just bullshitting? I already know the answer.
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