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dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
July 25 2012 06:56 GMT
#121
So, can someone confirm if what Crank said is about himself or actually about MMA?

Or no one knows for sure because of Crank's english?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
July 25 2012 06:58 GMT
#122
On July 25 2012 15:56 dynwar7 wrote:
So, can someone confirm if what Crank said is about himself or actually about MMA?

Or no one knows for sure because of Crank's english?


see my post page 5
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
July 25 2012 06:59 GMT
#123
Wish he would've explained it in Korean... there's plenty of Korean translators on TL who could interpret his words much better. :/
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 07:00:52
July 25 2012 07:00 GMT
#124
yay, we got our info! enough for me, at least
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chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
July 25 2012 07:06 GMT
#125
On July 25 2012 15:50 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:25 Telcontar wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:22 OpTiKDream wrote:
hots will spark everyone's interest again

Not so sure about that. Everyone expects it to revitalise SC2, but from what I've seen so far, I'm not convinced. After all, it's the same guys who made WoL.


Im not really worried that the guys who made what is probably the best RTS ever (though they did have a good template to work off of) can deliver an expansion pack thatll be good.

He was referring to Blizzard's employee when, I suppose, you are talking about Ensemble Studio's guys, who made AoE series. They are not the same, dude.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
July 25 2012 07:09 GMT
#126
On July 25 2012 16:06 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:50 Adreme wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:25 Telcontar wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:22 OpTiKDream wrote:
hots will spark everyone's interest again

Not so sure about that. Everyone expects it to revitalise SC2, but from what I've seen so far, I'm not convinced. After all, it's the same guys who made WoL.


Im not really worried that the guys who made what is probably the best RTS ever (though they did have a good template to work off of) can deliver an expansion pack thatll be good.

He was referring to Blizzard's employee when, I suppose, you are talking about Ensemble Studio's guys, who made AoE series. They are not the same, dude.

lol, starcraft is a much bigger and better game than age of empires can ever dream of being
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2012 07:16 GMT
#127
On July 25 2012 16:09 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 16:06 chisuri wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:50 Adreme wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:25 Telcontar wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:22 OpTiKDream wrote:
hots will spark everyone's interest again

Not so sure about that. Everyone expects it to revitalise SC2, but from what I've seen so far, I'm not convinced. After all, it's the same guys who made WoL.


Im not really worried that the guys who made what is probably the best RTS ever (though they did have a good template to work off of) can deliver an expansion pack thatll be good.

He was referring to Blizzard's employee when, I suppose, you are talking about Ensemble Studio's guys, who made AoE series. They are not the same, dude.

lol, starcraft is a much bigger and better game than age of empires can ever dream of being


AoE II was pretty cool man, I think it was the first game I played competitively online
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 25 2012 07:18 GMT
#128
So MMA is getting bored of the game, such a shame to see that level of talent falling away =\

Maybe him joining a foreign team and going to more events would reignite that passion, iono. Hope he doesn't quit.
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 25 2012 07:19 GMT
#129
Not wanting to play 10 hours a day?? I can understand that, and if that's the case, a foreign team would suit MMA very well, if he indeed does decide to leave.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 25 2012 07:27 GMT
#130
On July 25 2012 15:50 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:25 Telcontar wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:22 OpTiKDream wrote:
hots will spark everyone's interest again

Not so sure about that. Everyone expects it to revitalise SC2, but from what I've seen so far, I'm not convinced. After all, it's the same guys who made WoL.


Im not really worried that the guys who made what is probably the best RTS ever (though they did have a good template to work off of) can deliver an expansion pack thatll be good.

I'm confused. Are you referring to WoL as the best RTS ever? If so, that's ridiculous. If you mean BW, very few people remain from those who created that. And if you think having BW as a template is a sure sign of success, just look at how WoL turned out.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
July 25 2012 07:29 GMT
#131
Dang, hopefully MMA isn't going to quit sc2, nor switch to LoL.

If he quits SC2, I will feel bad cus he quit just barely after he beat HongUn haha... which made him retire too
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
July 25 2012 07:29 GMT
#132
On July 25 2012 16:06 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:50 Adreme wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:25 Telcontar wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:22 OpTiKDream wrote:
hots will spark everyone's interest again

Not so sure about that. Everyone expects it to revitalise SC2, but from what I've seen so far, I'm not convinced. After all, it's the same guys who made WoL.


Im not really worried that the guys who made what is probably the best RTS ever (though they did have a good template to work off of) can deliver an expansion pack thatll be good.

He was referring to Blizzard's employee when, I suppose, you are talking about Ensemble Studio's guys, who made AoE series. They are not the same, dude.


no Rts can match anything like the sc series..., especially sc1.
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dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
July 25 2012 07:30 GMT
#133
On July 25 2012 15:58 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:56 dynwar7 wrote:
So, can someone confirm if what Crank said is about himself or actually about MMA?

Or no one knows for sure because of Crank's english?


see my post page 5


Cranks message didnt really say anything about MMA to be honest....it is only about telling people to cheer for him tonight vs violet...

So, I still dont understand. Is this simply misinterpretation or MMA truly is losing his passion?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 25 2012 07:35 GMT
#134
On July 25 2012 15:58 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:56 dynwar7 wrote:
So, can someone confirm if what Crank said is about himself or actually about MMA?

Or no one knows for sure because of Crank's english?


see my post page 5

Ah, thanks!

Hm...that's weird, seems that the OP may have been a partial misinterpretation or a specific conclusion drawn from unclear statements...definitely doesn't really bring closure to this whole issue, one would think.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 25 2012 07:39 GMT
#135
So I guess the reason MMA wants to join a foreign team is because they give him more leeway with designing his own schedule?
Dante_A_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 07:46:47
July 25 2012 07:45 GMT
#136
On July 25 2012 14:12 Gosi wrote:
Hmm, strange how things seems to have turned upside down so quickly. A month ago he seemed very motivated and straight forward about what he wanted when he was interviewed by Rachel for CSN. "2 years, only game no girls" doesn't sound something someone who lost motivation and just slacks would say.

I wonder if it is because of the patch or if there is something like the team atmosphere not being as great anymore etc that changed it. Hope it turns out good for him soon. :/


Uh, someone saying the bolded statement sounds like they yearn for a bit of a relationship/real life time to me.

A handsome young man stuck in a dorm with other boys all day - Don't have to explain why he'd want to move out to me. While he was winning a lot it was probably enough, but running in the middle of the Code S pack may not be enough to offset his lack of social opportunities. Other older, strong players like Nestea/MVP don't live in the team dorms, I could imagine MMA feeling like he deserves a longer leash.

Hard to bring a girl back home when there are 15 other starcraft gamers running around in their pajamas. You don't have to "lose your passion" to want a little private space/social life.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 25 2012 07:46 GMT
#137
On July 25 2012 16:27 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 15:50 Adreme wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:25 Telcontar wrote:
On July 25 2012 15:22 OpTiKDream wrote:
hots will spark everyone's interest again

Not so sure about that. Everyone expects it to revitalise SC2, but from what I've seen so far, I'm not convinced. After all, it's the same guys who made WoL.


Im not really worried that the guys who made what is probably the best RTS ever (though they did have a good template to work off of) can deliver an expansion pack thatll be good.

I'm confused. Are you referring to WoL as the best RTS ever? If so, that's ridiculous. If you mean BW, very few people remain from those who created that. And if you think having BW as a template is a sure sign of success, just look at how WoL turned out.


I was very intentinoally referring to sc2 because I have no idea who is still on that team from BW nor did it really matter that much.
Peanutbutter717
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States240 Posts
July 25 2012 07:46 GMT
#138
Do premier pro-teams have an off season of any sort? Or something to at least balance playing starcraft with?
Marine -> masters
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
July 25 2012 07:48 GMT
#139
It's the same case with MVP. He has lost passion as well. I don't know if it's because of SC2, but we may see eventually what the reason is.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 25 2012 07:49 GMT
#140
On July 25 2012 16:46 Peanutbutter717 wrote:
Do premier pro-teams have an off season of any sort? Or something to at least balance playing starcraft with?


The " off season " is December and early January in sc2, I think the Korean pro teams still practice during this time even though GSL takes a break during this time.
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