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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
July 18 2012 19:32 GMT
#1581
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.

Yes mate, SlayerS team is like a nazi camp... Give me a break... If someone is bound by legal contract then he can't "just leave", unless your understanding of law is different than mine. Maybe they can settle it by some paid fine if its really about the leaving, but you cant just show off your ass to other party when being bound by contract and shut the door behind you.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
July 18 2012 19:38 GMT
#1582
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 19:41:03
July 18 2012 19:40 GMT
#1583
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?

Every bit of drama involving SlayerS (including sponsorship, players leaving, Facebook pages, Eve issues, etc.) has always had Jessica in the middle of it, dramatically tweeting away
¯\_(シ)_/¯
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 19:44:59
July 18 2012 19:44 GMT
#1584
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?


Some people don't like headstrong or strong-willed women in positions of power. They are supposed to all be shy and polite like the typical stereotype and stay in the kitchen. Hence, the hatred.
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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
July 18 2012 19:45 GMT
#1585
On July 19 2012 04:32 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.

Yes mate, SlayerS team is like a nazi camp... Give me a break... If someone is bound by legal contract then he can't "just leave", unless your understanding of law is different than mine. Maybe they can settle it by some paid fine if its really about the leaving, but you cant just show off your ass to other party when being bound by contract and shut the door behind you.


My thinking would be that he expressed his intent and desire to leave, and then Slayers reacted as they did. Obviously they are showing him, and all the other players, that they can't "just leave". Which is part of the purpose of his punishment.

zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 18 2012 19:47 GMT
#1586
On July 19 2012 04:45 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:32 Roman666 wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.

Yes mate, SlayerS team is like a nazi camp... Give me a break... If someone is bound by legal contract then he can't "just leave", unless your understanding of law is different than mine. Maybe they can settle it by some paid fine if its really about the leaving, but you cant just show off your ass to other party when being bound by contract and shut the door behind you.


My thinking would be that he expressed his intent and desire to leave, and then Slayers reacted as they did. Obviously they are showing him, and all the other players, that they can't "just leave". Which is part of the purpose of his punishment.



Isn't it ridiculous to guess what the situation is and then make condemnations based on your unfounded and highly specific imagination? MMA fanboy or not, you are being rather dumb.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 18 2012 19:47 GMT
#1587
On July 19 2012 04:45 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:32 Roman666 wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.

Yes mate, SlayerS team is like a nazi camp... Give me a break... If someone is bound by legal contract then he can't "just leave", unless your understanding of law is different than mine. Maybe they can settle it by some paid fine if its really about the leaving, but you cant just show off your ass to other party when being bound by contract and shut the door behind you.


My thinking would be that he expressed his intent and desire to leave, and then Slayers reacted as they did. Obviously they are showing him, and all the other players, that they can't "just leave". Which is part of the purpose of his punishment.



Last time jessica said during the dragon fiasco that they had no problem with people leaving the team as long as they asked them first. She cited golden and sleep I think as examples of players leaving no problem. MMA is more high profile then either, so I guess that's why they have a problem now.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 18 2012 19:47 GMT
#1588
On July 19 2012 04:30 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:26 MasterKang wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


source?

his ass. Check the post history in this thread and all there comes out is that Slayers somehow hates MMA and wants him to feel bad and do anything possible.
People also seem to forget that before there has been normal leaves/transfers from slayers but only if they are honest.
for instance saying you going to quit progaming to then join a foreign team is not the way to go and warrants some backfire.


yeah i figured it was bull
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
July 18 2012 19:49 GMT
#1589
On July 19 2012 04:44 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?


Some people don't like headstrong or strong-willed women in positions of power. They are supposed to all be shy and polite like the typical stereotype and stay in the kitchen. Hence, the hatred.

Yup? People dislike Jessica because they don't like headstrong or strong-willed women. It's not because she is a drama queen that blows things out of proportion or that she publicly berates players via twitter calling them lyers and cheats. You're right.
"let your freak flag fly"
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 18 2012 19:49 GMT
#1590
On July 19 2012 04:44 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?


Some people don't like headstrong or strong-willed women in positions of power. They are supposed to all be shy and polite like the typical stereotype and stay in the kitchen. Hence, the hatred.

That's a very... naive look at things. Jessica seems like a really nice person, and she keeps Slayers running really smoothly, but when it comes to handling PR matters... she really is terrible. Kind of feel like she always does more harm than good in those matters.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 18 2012 19:52 GMT
#1591
On July 19 2012 04:45 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:32 Roman666 wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.

Yes mate, SlayerS team is like a nazi camp... Give me a break... If someone is bound by legal contract then he can't "just leave", unless your understanding of law is different than mine. Maybe they can settle it by some paid fine if its really about the leaving, but you cant just show off your ass to other party when being bound by contract and shut the door behind you.


My thinking would be that he expressed his intent and desire to leave, and then Slayers reacted as they did. Obviously they are showing him, and all the other players, that they can't "just leave". Which is part of the purpose of his punishment.


Oh right I forgot about when ganzi and taeja were sent home before joining liquid and complexity.
Glorious SEA doto
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 18 2012 19:53 GMT
#1592
On July 19 2012 04:44 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?


Some people don't like headstrong or strong-willed women in positions of power. They are supposed to all be shy and polite like the typical stereotype and stay in the kitchen. Hence, the hatred.


Jessica is a strong willed woman in the sense that Kim Kardashian is a strong willed woman.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 18 2012 19:56 GMT
#1593
On July 19 2012 04:49 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:44 zefreak wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?


Some people don't like headstrong or strong-willed women in positions of power. They are supposed to all be shy and polite like the typical stereotype and stay in the kitchen. Hence, the hatred.

That's a very... naive look at things. Jessica seems like a really nice person, and she keeps Slayers running really smoothly, but when it comes to handling PR matters... she really is terrible. Kind of feel like she always does more harm than good in those matters.


In this community, that loves drama more than anything, you are right. Taken in a vaccume (other than seeking legal action against the anti-fans, which is a korean thing unfortunately) nothing she has done has been nearly as bad as people think.
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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
July 18 2012 19:56 GMT
#1594
On July 19 2012 04:44 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?


Some people don't like headstrong or strong-willed women in positions of power. They are supposed to all be shy and polite like the typical stereotype and stay in the kitchen. Hence, the hatred.



wow, that post just seem to generalize everyone who does not like what jessica has done into "you are all backwards and only want them in the kitchen" types. there are a lot of reasons to not like what jessica has done in the past purely on what she has done and it having nothing to do with her gender.
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halfies
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom327 Posts
July 18 2012 20:01 GMT
#1595
On July 19 2012 04:44 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:38 ElephantBaby wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:28 Malaz wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.


Of course it's only speculation, but if I had to guess I would guess the same thing. Especially considering what crazy shit Jessica pulled of in the past.


What did Jessica do in the past?


Some people don't like headstrong or strong-willed women in positions of power. They are supposed to all be shy and polite like the typical stereotype and stay in the kitchen. Hence, the hatred.

i think most people dislike her because shes crazy and cant take any criticism.
and also, people saying things like this is one of the reason that issues where actual sexism is taking place can be so easily ignored. have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?
Dekkers
Profile Joined February 2012
France315 Posts
July 18 2012 20:01 GMT
#1596
What has Jessica done?

I'm curious.

I want to know.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
July 18 2012 20:06 GMT
#1597
On July 19 2012 04:47 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:45 dsousa wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:32 Roman666 wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.

Yes mate, SlayerS team is like a nazi camp... Give me a break... If someone is bound by legal contract then he can't "just leave", unless your understanding of law is different than mine. Maybe they can settle it by some paid fine if its really about the leaving, but you cant just show off your ass to other party when being bound by contract and shut the door behind you.


My thinking would be that he expressed his intent and desire to leave, and then Slayers reacted as they did. Obviously they are showing him, and all the other players, that they can't "just leave". Which is part of the purpose of his punishment.



Isn't it ridiculous to guess what the situation is and then make condemnations based on your unfounded and highly specific imagination? MMA fanboy or not, you are being rather dumb.


I don't even like MMA, in fact I hate Terran.... I just don't like to see people being treated like this without their being a good reason provided.

How does the SC2 fan community just accept that? Probably because the legion of apologists jump on anyone who points that out.

If MMA deserved this, Slayers needs to make that clear.




marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 20:10:41
July 18 2012 20:10 GMT
#1598
On July 19 2012 05:01 Dekkers wrote:
What has Jessica done?

I'm curious.

I want to know.


She seems to be in the center of most SlayerS-related dramas. Most of the time nowadays when I see her name in the side bar of SC2 general I know it's going to be a pointless rehash of the last time she said something dramatic on twitter, and I ignore the topic.
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Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
July 18 2012 20:10 GMT
#1599
On July 19 2012 05:06 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:47 zefreak wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:45 dsousa wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:32 Roman666 wrote:
On July 19 2012 04:20 dsousa wrote:
MMA told Boxer/Jessica that he wanted to leave the team and join a foreign team.

Boxer/Jessica feel that having their star player do that, the player they put Boxer's reputation behind, would be very harmful to the Slayers brand and to Boxers reputation as a team leader. They probably feel that MMA owes them, because they took him from a no-name to being a huge SC2 star. MMA leaving hurts Slayers and Boxer..... and that makes them angry.... hence the seemingly vindictive punishment and press release.

Slayers knows they will lose MMA, so they want to tighten things up with other players, so they punish MMA harshly for his disloyalty so as to discourage their other players from also exploring the opportunity to leave. They force MMA out of the house and hold his contract while making it clear he is not to speak about this to anyone.

Slayer is probably trying to get some money for his transfer, while they wait it out.

Its understandable that Slayers would be hurt by their star wanting to leave, but I really think they've gone too far and shown themselves to be too reactionary and too draconian. Its natural to be hurt when someone you've invested in wants to move on, but they are free human beings and they have that right. There is no need to make it ugly like they have. They should have remained professional and quietly moved on thanking MMA for all his efforts. That would have been the "professional" thing to do.

TL:DR My guess is MMA's only crime was wanting to leave Slayers and that's why Slayers won't say the reason for the punishment.

Yes mate, SlayerS team is like a nazi camp... Give me a break... If someone is bound by legal contract then he can't "just leave", unless your understanding of law is different than mine. Maybe they can settle it by some paid fine if its really about the leaving, but you cant just show off your ass to other party when being bound by contract and shut the door behind you.


My thinking would be that he expressed his intent and desire to leave, and then Slayers reacted as they did. Obviously they are showing him, and all the other players, that they can't "just leave". Which is part of the purpose of his punishment.



Isn't it ridiculous to guess what the situation is and then make condemnations based on your unfounded and highly specific imagination? MMA fanboy or not, you are being rather dumb.


I don't even like MMA, in fact I hate Terran.... I just don't like to see people being treated like this without their being a good reason provided.

How does the SC2 fan community just accept that? Probably because the legion of apologists jump on anyone who points that out.

If MMA deserved this, Slayers needs to make that clear.





hahaha, this literally just happened and you describe the sc2 fan community as accepting this.

should everyone be rioting? or just making things up like you are?
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Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
July 18 2012 20:14 GMT
#1600
Whatever may have happened here, i just hope he is able to find himself a proper opportunity to keep up his trainig regiment with players of his caliber.

Would be a shame to see someone with such a big name and sucess (and equally much potential) drop of into nothingness.

Although playing for a foreign team seems to be the best financial possibility for most korean progamers today, i kinda hope he at least choses a team that can offer him a permanent stay within another korean teamhouse.
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