• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:12
CET 17:12
KST 01:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Terran AddOns placement How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh Recent recommended BW games TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
YOUTUBE VIDEO
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2298 users

MMA demoted to B-Team, wants to join foreign team? - Page 78

Forum Index > SC2 General
1927 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 97 Next
Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 18 2012 15:49 GMT
#1541
On July 19 2012 00:45 MSwiLD wrote:
Everyone has their ups and downs, and it isn't fair to punish someone for having their own!

I just lost a lot of respect for the SlayerS organization.


Seriously ? You know what happened ? Tell us !
LiquipediaWanderer
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 15:51:33
July 18 2012 15:51 GMT
#1542
actually punishing someone when they are down is fair. Do you think your boss will just look at your glory days if you did terribly recently on sales or whatever? No, you'll get bitch at
minimalistic
Profile Joined August 2010
Hungary157 Posts
July 18 2012 15:51 GMT
#1543
For all the kind and smart people out there who pulls jokes about MMA doing this or that. GO watch some Big Brother instead. That is your level.
"A baby Gracken dies every time you use Ghost + Mech" -unknown chat user
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 18 2012 16:01 GMT
#1544
Hmm, well MMA's TvP got better apparently. His TvZ is still top 3 in the world (though that counts for less w/ Queen buff effect), and his TvT is still above average. I think we can safely say that its not a gameplay issue that got him in trouble.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Jade
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 16:14:17
July 18 2012 16:04 GMT
#1545
Just for some entertainment purposes, check out what Sen has posted on his Facebook
Sen
‎... 這啥會= =

來個 PPT 短網址 :: 縮圖剪剪樂!
ppt.cc
PPT(ppt.cc) 短網址,縮圖剪剪樂!

[image loading]

Link ->http://ppt.cc/nfsn http://ppt.cc/nfsn GamaniaMMA ? Anyone ? ^^
@KRN_Jade "Patience is a small price to pay for perfection."
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
July 18 2012 16:05 GMT
#1546
liquid help a brother out :p
Watch my gaming channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BedinSpace
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 18 2012 16:12 GMT
#1547
On July 19 2012 00:45 MSwiLD wrote:
Everyone has their ups and downs, and it isn't fair to punish someone for having their own!

I just lost a lot of respect for the SlayerS organization.


The demotion was executed due to disciplinary action and not due to bad performance.
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
July 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1548
On July 19 2012 01:04 SearchEU wrote:
Just for some entertainment purposes, check out what Sen has posted on his Facebook
Sen
‎... 這啥會= =

來個 PPT 短網址 :: 縮圖剪剪樂!
ppt.cc
PPT(ppt.cc) 短網址,縮圖剪剪樂!

[image loading]

Link ->http://ppt.cc/nfsn http://ppt.cc/nfsn GamaniaMMA ? Anyone ? ^^


Bwahahaha I would love this.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 18 2012 16:26 GMT
#1549
On July 19 2012 01:04 SearchEU wrote:
Just for some entertainment purposes, check out what Sen has posted on his Facebook
Sen
‎... 這啥會= =

來個 PPT 短網址 :: 縮圖剪剪樂!
ppt.cc
PPT(ppt.cc) 短網址,縮圖剪剪樂!

[image loading]

Link ->http://ppt.cc/nfsn http://ppt.cc/nfsn GamaniaMMA ? Anyone ? ^^


GaMMAnia!
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
July 18 2012 16:27 GMT
#1550
Cripes...I was upset that Hero lost to him but I didn't want this to happen to him. x.x I hope he'll be okay, whatever is going on...
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
July 18 2012 16:29 GMT
#1551
i predict mma and crank to leave slayers
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 18 2012 16:34 GMT
#1552
He was underperforming (for his usually world top class level) lately, and some kind of internal measure to shake him up might have been actually a great decision for his mentality and desire to win. If the whole story has any truth, that is.

I'm optimistic that he'll stay with SlayerS though, and if something like that happened, it was just a move to strengthen his character. SlayerS is like a big Korean family, and we know Korean parents are very loving and very harsh, simultaneously.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
July 18 2012 16:37 GMT
#1553
Slayers should have given an official statement by now. With this much time elapsed it becomes worse and worse as imaginations start to run wild. Even if the truth is now revealed, the imagined truths will still be in everyones mind. An example of this would be, lets say you are charged with being a child molestor and the trial goes for months and months and many stories are fabricated about you, but in the end you are found not guilty. People would still view you as a child molestor, however if the same day that you were accused you were shown to be innocent without a doubt you would not be viewed in this light. I think I thought of this case because of the recent news.
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 16:41:16
July 18 2012 16:40 GMT
#1554
Maybe they don't want to publicly expose something for MMA that they felt was important enough to discipline him for? I mean sure it sucks and all, but it's not like we are entitled to knowing what happened here. They had to publicly explain why he wasn't in the team house but they certainly don't have to explain what he's in trouble for.
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 16:51:50
July 18 2012 16:51 GMT
#1555
On July 19 2012 01:37 StreetWise wrote:
Slayers should have given an official statement by now. With this much time elapsed it becomes worse and worse as imaginations start to run wild. Even if the truth is now revealed, the imagined truths will still be in everyones mind. An example of this would be, lets say you are charged with being a child molestor and the trial goes for months and months and many stories are fabricated about you, but in the end you are found not guilty. People would still view you as a child molestor, however if the same day that you were accused you were shown to be innocent without a doubt you would not be viewed in this light. I think I thought of this case because of the recent news.

But there is nothing to be explained. MMA wasn't accused of anything. We know everything we should know; he was demoted due to disciplinary reasons and he didn't accept it. What more do we have to know? If you the conflict is not resolved than there is nothing to talk about.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
July 18 2012 16:56 GMT
#1556
On July 19 2012 01:37 StreetWise wrote:
Slayers should have given an official statement by now. With this much time elapsed it becomes worse and worse as imaginations start to run wild. Even if the truth is now revealed, the imagined truths will still be in everyones mind. An example of this would be, lets say you are charged with being a child molestor and the trial goes for months and months and many stories are fabricated about you, but in the end you are found not guilty. People would still view you as a child molestor, however if the same day that you were accused you were shown to be innocent without a doubt you would not be viewed in this light. I think I thought of this case because of the recent news.

Except he didn't got accused for anything. Your example is something completely different.
They said its internal stuff and people should honestly take enough with that instead of speculating over dumb stuff.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 18 2012 17:00 GMT
#1557
On July 19 2012 01:51 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 01:37 StreetWise wrote:
Slayers should have given an official statement by now. With this much time elapsed it becomes worse and worse as imaginations start to run wild. Even if the truth is now revealed, the imagined truths will still be in everyones mind. An example of this would be, lets say you are charged with being a child molestor and the trial goes for months and months and many stories are fabricated about you, but in the end you are found not guilty. People would still view you as a child molestor, however if the same day that you were accused you were shown to be innocent without a doubt you would not be viewed in this light. I think I thought of this case because of the recent news.

But there is nothing to be explained. MMA wasn't accused of anything. We know everything we should know; he was demoted due to disciplinary reasons and he didn't accept it. What more do we have to know? If you the conflict is not resolved than there is nothing to talk about.


No professional sports team in the world would bench a top player and kick him out their living space without some sort of minor press release. The speculation is far worse than simply saying "This is what happened. This is our only comment, thanks".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xxAoPxx
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany25 Posts
July 18 2012 17:02 GMT
#1558
I hope MMA finds a foreign team soon that fully supports this disciplined and intelligent player. Don't know the story behind this, but until I do, I side 100% with MMA.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 18 2012 17:08 GMT
#1559
On July 19 2012 02:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 01:51 Serinox wrote:
On July 19 2012 01:37 StreetWise wrote:
Slayers should have given an official statement by now. With this much time elapsed it becomes worse and worse as imaginations start to run wild. Even if the truth is now revealed, the imagined truths will still be in everyones mind. An example of this would be, lets say you are charged with being a child molestor and the trial goes for months and months and many stories are fabricated about you, but in the end you are found not guilty. People would still view you as a child molestor, however if the same day that you were accused you were shown to be innocent without a doubt you would not be viewed in this light. I think I thought of this case because of the recent news.

But there is nothing to be explained. MMA wasn't accused of anything. We know everything we should know; he was demoted due to disciplinary reasons and he didn't accept it. What more do we have to know? If you the conflict is not resolved than there is nothing to talk about.


No professional sports team in the world would bench a top player and kick him out their living space without some sort of minor press release. The speculation is far worse than simply saying "This is what happened. This is our only comment, thanks".


The article on TiG is a minor release (it has SlayerS press material in it) and in my opinion it stated everything we need to know and now we have wait for the resolution of this problem. We have no right to demand that we get informed about the things MMA has done to get disciplinary action, so we shouldn't expect it.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 18 2012 17:19 GMT
#1560
On July 19 2012 02:08 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 02:00 Plansix wrote:
On July 19 2012 01:51 Serinox wrote:
On July 19 2012 01:37 StreetWise wrote:
Slayers should have given an official statement by now. With this much time elapsed it becomes worse and worse as imaginations start to run wild. Even if the truth is now revealed, the imagined truths will still be in everyones mind. An example of this would be, lets say you are charged with being a child molestor and the trial goes for months and months and many stories are fabricated about you, but in the end you are found not guilty. People would still view you as a child molestor, however if the same day that you were accused you were shown to be innocent without a doubt you would not be viewed in this light. I think I thought of this case because of the recent news.

But there is nothing to be explained. MMA wasn't accused of anything. We know everything we should know; he was demoted due to disciplinary reasons and he didn't accept it. What more do we have to know? If you the conflict is not resolved than there is nothing to talk about.


No professional sports team in the world would bench a top player and kick him out their living space without some sort of minor press release. The speculation is far worse than simply saying "This is what happened. This is our only comment, thanks".


The article on TiG is a minor release (it has SlayerS press material in it) and in my opinion it stated everything we need to know and now we have wait for the resolution of this problem. We have no right to demand that we get informed about the things MMA has done to get disciplinary action, so we shouldn't expect it.


it's news, so what? I personally couldn't give a crap about this, but SlayerS should know that if they're not willing to share information people will just invent stories.

Although the sexual ones are really inappropriate. But still, it's unreasonable to expect all of the SC2 viewing community to take a reasonable and respectful stance - so SlayerS should proactively announce why.
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 97 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Monthly #3 - March
Serral1405
WardiTV567
uThermal460
IndyStarCraft 191
SteadfastSC121
StrangeGG59
MindelVK26
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1405
uThermal 460
IndyStarCraft 191
SteadfastSC 121
Liquid`TLO 109
BRAT_OK 71
MindelVK 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 47459
Britney 37688
Rain 2130
Shuttle 682
JYJ 101
Backho 79
ToSsGirL 38
Free 37
Rock 29
JulyZerg 17
[ Show more ]
NaDa 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5172
qojqva1709
Counter-Strike
fl0m3677
allub149
oskar118
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor511
Liquid`Hasu293
Other Games
B2W.Neo1181
Liquid`RaSZi1016
Beastyqt315
Fuzer 181
mouzStarbuck155
Hui .135
QueenE128
Mew2King89
ArmadaUGS82
KnowMe34
JuggernautJason15
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL177
Other Games
BasetradeTV121
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 35
• poizon28 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1370
League of Legends
• Jankos3147
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
16h 48m
Wardi Open
19h 48m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.