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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
July 17 2012 03:42 GMT
#121
Annnnd this is why we need investigative e-sports journalism . . . this thread is going to get 100 pages long in a heartbeat and it'll all be speculation and no facts.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Lunit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States183 Posts
July 17 2012 03:42 GMT
#122
Jessica: MMA YOU ARE MY SON AND WILL DO WHAT I SAY!
MMA: but jessica i...
Jessica: NO! I DONT WANT TO HEAR IT! GET THE HELL OUT OF MY HOUSE!

that's what happened.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
July 17 2012 03:42 GMT
#123
On July 17 2012 12:39 kvn4444 wrote:
not sure what he could have done to get kicked out but seems dumb by slayers. mma did so much to promote there team and won them 2 gstl's basically , he deserves better treatment then that.


Exactly, even if he wants to leave or wants WAY more money... it doesn't warrant this kind of punitive treatment.

He's a free man..... he was paid to do a job and he did it great.

Until I hear more, all signs point to simply vindictive behavior by Slayers. Unless MMA assaulted someone, there's no reason for this.... he's easily still one of the better players Slayers has.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 03:43:08
July 17 2012 03:42 GMT
#124
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
July 17 2012 03:43 GMT
#125
Slayers is doing the smart thing by not announcing anything - if both parties retaliate over the social media, it could lead to a situation where the relationship cannot be recovered.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 03:50:20
July 17 2012 03:43 GMT
#126
I am confused. MMA doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would do anything stupid to get into trouble. The only offense he's done anyone is not allowing us to bask in the beauty of his TvZ and TvT.

If I'm reading the article correctly, MMA is angry because was demoted to B-team and kicked out of the house FOR an unspecified reason. Since it doesn't affect his GSL participation, it wasn't gaming related. Since he got kicked out of the house, I'm guessing it was some in-house dispute. Getting demoted seems like a logical punishment for the alleged misbehavior.

Since there are two Slayers members who woke up and basically tweeted WTF HAPPENED, I'm guessing it was a pretty isolated incident and not many people on the team are involved.

Past these, I can't do much more than make stuff up.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 17 2012 03:43 GMT
#127
On July 17 2012 12:40 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:38 lichter wrote:
Jessica hasn't gone tweet-mad yet


On this subject. Jessica and Cella tweeted something a couple of hours ago. Could it be related?


I just read the tweet that Cella sent. its something about being careful about a cold, i gotaa take a shower after the stadium... random stuff. not related
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
July 17 2012 03:44 GMT
#128
On July 17 2012 12:35 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:34 GeeseHoward wrote:
Why was the other thread closed with no post by the mods about why it was closed? Just because you guys want a official thread?


Things in the other thread were misleading.


Things in this thread are misleading too. Nothing has been confirmed.
TeamBanished
Profile Joined September 2011
United States301 Posts
July 17 2012 03:44 GMT
#129
I trust Boxer would not make a call like that unless he felt it was needed. I trust more information will be coming to light in the next few days..
For Aiur
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
July 17 2012 03:44 GMT
#130
Guess I'll have to change my team symbol again...MMA and the EG partnership kept me going strong there. Hopefully this doesn't turn out too badly.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
July 17 2012 03:45 GMT
#131
Seems like a foolish move by SlayerS, but we will see when more details are revealed.
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brobrah
Profile Joined April 2011
220 Posts
July 17 2012 03:45 GMT
#132
On July 17 2012 12:42 Lunit wrote:
Jessica: MMA YOU ARE MY SON AND WILL DO WHAT I SAY!
MMA: but jessica i...
Jessica: NO! I DONT WANT TO HEAR IT! GET THE HELL OUT OF MY HOUSE!

that's what happened.

There you have it, guys, real quotes from the parties involved. What more evidence do you need?
I want to be the next Chris Loranger for SC3
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 17 2012 03:45 GMT
#133
On July 17 2012 12:42 kazie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:38 MasterKang wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:35 NHY wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:30 MasterKang wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:26 MCXD wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:26 Neurosis wrote:
I don't think MMA will have any problem whatsoever finding a new team, whether it be foreign or not.


I wouldn't be so sure, depending on what he did to get punished, and what his demands of a foreign team would be.

EDIT: A guess, take this with a grain of salt:
+ Show Spoiler +
If MKP's tweet relates, then perhaps MMA got into a significant salary dispute? It would perhaps explain why he wants to go to a foreign team too. We all know that korean progamers are under the impression the trees in America grow money.


If it was a salary dispute, how the fk would MKP know about it? Plus, the article already stated that it was due to misbehavior, not some disagreement with the contract. MKP was most likely referring to MMA's desire to go to a foreign team, if he was referring to this situation at all


Progamers often talk to each other so MKP could know about it. And there was nothing about "misbehavior" in OP.

...while the reason for this disciplinary action remained unrevealed, cited as a internal issue of the team.


My friend who is fluent in korean told me there was a mention about some misbehavior. Also, mma's contract isn't over so why the hell would they be arguing over salary in the first place


im fluent in korean and the translation in OP is pretty much a near perfect translation of the article. so no there wasnt any mention of that


Regardless, the latter point still remains valid
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
July 17 2012 03:45 GMT
#134
On July 17 2012 12:42 J1.au wrote:
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.


Examples? I don't recall any occasions.
MMA: The true King of Wings
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 17 2012 03:45 GMT
#135
On July 17 2012 12:42 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:39 kvn4444 wrote:
not sure what he could have done to get kicked out but seems dumb by slayers. mma did so much to promote there team and won them 2 gstl's basically , he deserves better treatment then that.


Exactly, even if he wants to leave or wants WAY more money... it doesn't warrant this kind of punitive treatment.

He's a free man..... he was paid to do a job and he did it great.

Until I hear more, all signs point to simply vindictive behavior by Slayers. Unless MMA assaulted someone, there's no reason for this.... he's easily still one of the better players Slayers has.


All signs do not point to "vindictive behavior from SlayerS".

All signs point nowhere really. I know you want to support MMA no matter what, but that doesn't mean you need to preemptively blame SlayerS. Chill out
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
July 17 2012 03:46 GMT
#136
On July 17 2012 12:42 J1.au wrote:
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.


I think MMA realizes his market value . . . he doesn't have to take shit from anyone, unless he does something very bad (i.e. cheating / breaking the law).

In the end, all the fans will side with MMA and Slayers will look absolutely fucking horrible. I don't blame him for telling them to screw off if it's not something HUGELY bad that he did.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
July 17 2012 03:46 GMT
#137
On July 17 2012 12:45 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:42 J1.au wrote:
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.


Examples? I don't recall any occasions.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240308
Rhine
Profile Joined October 2011
187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 03:47:41
July 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#138
On July 17 2012 12:42 J1.au wrote:
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.


He's still in Code A, which still means he's one of the best players in the world. This is a punishment for something he did and likely not a "performance" thing.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
July 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#139
On July 17 2012 12:38 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:35 NHY wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:30 MasterKang wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:26 MCXD wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:26 Neurosis wrote:
I don't think MMA will have any problem whatsoever finding a new team, whether it be foreign or not.


I wouldn't be so sure, depending on what he did to get punished, and what his demands of a foreign team would be.

EDIT: A guess, take this with a grain of salt:
+ Show Spoiler +
If MKP's tweet relates, then perhaps MMA got into a significant salary dispute? It would perhaps explain why he wants to go to a foreign team too. We all know that korean progamers are under the impression the trees in America grow money.


If it was a salary dispute, how the fk would MKP know about it? Plus, the article already stated that it was due to misbehavior, not some disagreement with the contract. MKP was most likely referring to MMA's desire to go to a foreign team, if he was referring to this situation at all


Progamers often talk to each other so MKP could know about it. And there was nothing about "misbehavior" in OP.

...while the reason for this disciplinary action remained unrevealed, cited as a internal issue of the team.


My friend who is fluent in korean told me there was a mention about some misbehavior. Also, mma's contract isn't over so why the hell would they be arguing over salary in the first place


I can also read Korean, and I'm telling you that there is no mention of misbehavior.

Also, having a contract has nothing to do with possibility of salary dispute. In fact, if there were no contract there would be nothing to dispute. Although I doubt that would be the reason for the punishment even if that had happened.

The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#140
It's so sad to watch SlayerS slowly fall apart. GanZi and Taeja both left for foreigner teams, you never see BoxeR play any more, MMA has dropped out of Code S, and now this. It's just sad to think of what SlayerS used to be and what they are now. They are obviously still a great team, but they used to be the Terran powerhouse that could beat any other team in the teamleagues. Oh well, poor SlayerS, but I would be really curious to hear what MMA did to warrant being put on the B Team.
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