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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#141
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE MMA!!!?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
July 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#142
honestly this is just setting up for an epic future story

mma will leave boxer/slayers, and join foreign team.
mma doesnt have success on foreign team, and gets even more down on himself

mma wants to go back to slayers. boxer forgives and welcomes him with open arms (the prodigal son returns)
mma wins a big championship, mma and boxer hug on stage while they are both crying and all of the fans live and watching from home will be crying too
byah!
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
July 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#143
MKP's tweet is about the person who stole his wallet lol
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
July 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#144
On July 17 2012 12:42 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:39 kvn4444 wrote:
not sure what he could have done to get kicked out but seems dumb by slayers. mma did so much to promote there team and won them 2 gstl's basically , he deserves better treatment then that.


Exactly, even if he wants to leave or wants WAY more money... it doesn't warrant this kind of punitive treatment.

He's a free man..... he was paid to do a job and he did it great.

Until I hear more, all signs point to simply vindictive behavior by Slayers. Unless MMA assaulted someone, there's no reason for this.... he's easily still one of the better players Slayers has.



No, no, and no. If, for example, he wasn't practicing and was refusing to practice more or really anything that was disruptive telling him to leave the house is not too much punishment. Why should a person take up a spot in the house if there are other people working harder with more positive attitudes? Totally fine business decision.

Sure it could in theory be some kind of vindicitive punishment, but we shouldn't jump to that conclusion when we don't know shit about it.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
July 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#145
On July 17 2012 12:46 J1.au wrote:
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On July 17 2012 12:45 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:42 J1.au wrote:
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.


Examples? I don't recall any occasions.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240308


Thanks. But that's a bit different since MMA's demotion was a punishment.
MMA: The true King of Wings
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
July 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#146
On July 17 2012 12:29 mango_destroyer wrote:
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On July 17 2012 12:26 JacobShock wrote:
if it's a money issue, MMA deserves it. He's a star and I'm pretty tired of the way Jessica handles things lately. But hey, I dunno what it's really about.


Can people STFU about Jessica all the time? Stop accusing without knowing the details.


I didn't.. O.o I clearly said I don't know what it's about and I start my whole fucking post with if. try reading.
"Right on" - Morrow
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#147
On July 17 2012 12:45 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:42 dsousa wrote:
On July 17 2012 12:39 kvn4444 wrote:
not sure what he could have done to get kicked out but seems dumb by slayers. mma did so much to promote there team and won them 2 gstl's basically , he deserves better treatment then that.


Exactly, even if he wants to leave or wants WAY more money... it doesn't warrant this kind of punitive treatment.

He's a free man..... he was paid to do a job and he did it great.

Until I hear more, all signs point to simply vindictive behavior by Slayers. Unless MMA assaulted someone, there's no reason for this.... he's easily still one of the better players Slayers has.


All signs do not point to "vindictive behavior from SlayerS".

All signs point nowhere really. I know you want to support MMA no matter what, but that doesn't mean you need to preemptively blame SlayerS. Chill out

This. So far we know next to nothing about why this was done, so placing the blame on Slayers, MMA or even Jessica (who wasn't even mentioned in the article) is just silly. We need more information, and I really dislike all the hate Jessica in particular is getting in here.

On another note, really hope this turns out to be nothing more than a hissy fit. MMA on a team other than Slayers would be weird, especially considering how close he and Boxer always seemed.
Long live the King of Wings
ikh
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 03:49:35
July 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#148
On July 17 2012 12:42 J1.au wrote:
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.

yeah, true, but i think the context is slightly different as we're apparently talking about a punitive demotion. were there really notable, publicized cases of such in BW? can't really remember one.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#149
On July 17 2012 12:48 Clefairy wrote:
MKP's tweet is about the person who stole his wallet lol


How do you know?
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
July 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#150
On July 17 2012 12:48 simmeh wrote:
honestly this is just setting up for an epic future story

mma will leave boxer/slayers, and join foreign team.
mma doesnt have success on foreign team, and gets even more down on himself

mma wants to go back to slayers. boxer forgives and welcomes him with open arms (the prodigal son returns)
mma wins a big championship, mma and boxer hug on stage while they are both crying and all of the fans live and watching from home will be crying too


Sounds about right except for everything after "mma will leave boxer/slayers, and join foreign team".
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#151
On July 17 2012 12:48 simmeh wrote:
honestly this is just setting up for an epic future story

mma will leave boxer/slayers, and join foreign team.
mma doesnt have success on foreign team, and gets even more down on himself

mma wants to go back to slayers. boxer forgives and welcomes him with open arms (the prodigal son returns)
mma wins a big championship, mma and boxer hug on stage while they are both crying and all of the fans live and watching from home will be crying too


this is the only acceptable outcome of this situation. Also, after he wins championship he goes on to dominate the sc2 scene and become the new boxer of sc2
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
desarrisc
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada226 Posts
July 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#152
MMA doesn't really sound that good with other team tags.

SlayersMMA! Hope he manages to figure something out with the Slayers team

If not, best of luck to him in searching for a new team!
"Your opponent's doing anything out of the ordinary? Just go f**king kill him." -Day [9]
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 03:50:34
July 17 2012 03:49 GMT
#153
On July 17 2012 12:42 J1.au wrote:
These kind of demotions were common in BW. The only thing controversial here was MMA's supposed reaction to this move. A player of his calibre would've made the A-team again in a little while.

It's strange though, because as far as I know (well we don't know about practice ranks and stuff), MMA still is a better Terran than Clide, and then you've got players in the house who haven't been performing very well at all for ages and still stayed in the house (*cough*Alicia*cough*). Think about it, with MMA gone, Clide and Ryung (and Puma and Thorzain) are the only Terrans left in the SlayerS house. Meanwhile they've still got 5 Zergs (KDY, Miya, CoCa, YugiOh, Min). It just doesn't equate that he was demoted due to a fall in internal rankings.

I don't think this demotion is purely due to results/practice performance. It's probably a disciplinary issue or something, money, lack of practice, other issues.
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 17 2012 03:50 GMT
#154
This is kind of sad, mostly because I feel that MMA was great at the huge maps like Terminus and Tal/Darim, but maps shrunk again unfortunately and gave him less room to exploit his multitasking.
OpTicalRH
Profile Joined June 2011
147 Posts
July 17 2012 03:50 GMT
#155
Disregard MKP's tweet.
His tweet was about someone who stole his wallet.

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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
July 17 2012 03:50 GMT
#156
On July 17 2012 12:49 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:48 Clefairy wrote:
MKP's tweet is about the person who stole his wallet lol


How do you know?



He says it here
firrae
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada68 Posts
July 17 2012 03:50 GMT
#157
Well this is interesting... He wants to join a foreign team? I foresee coL.MMA considering Nada has left, I can only assume there's some open cash there.
HA! You can only kill idiots and slow moving vehicles with lazers!!! ... FUCK!!!!!!!!!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
July 17 2012 03:50 GMT
#158
On July 17 2012 12:48 Clefairy wrote:
MKP's tweet is about the person who stole his wallet lol


it's a bad save
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Deemo
Profile Joined December 2010
16 Posts
July 17 2012 03:51 GMT
#159
I remember when MMA went to MLG jessica told him if he doesnt win to not come back at all... it has to be a problem with them 2 >.<
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
July 17 2012 03:51 GMT
#160
On July 17 2012 12:50 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:48 Clefairy wrote:
MKP's tweet is about the person who stole his wallet lol


it's a bad save


Hmm so you're saying that MKP's tweet was about MMA and he's trying to cover it up?
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
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