Now the discussion begins, can the foreign players attain the same level as the korean players if they're to have the same training opportunities as them? Which players do you think deserve an opportunity to train with MaNa in korea? Which players have the highest chance of flourishing within "MaNas Lair"? Discuss.
Ex-polish BW superstar Draco turned general contractor is going over the construction plans with MaNa and his brother Funkay, construction of the new housing project should commence later on this summer.
MaNa will be releasing an official statement shortly. The housing project will be constructed in the suburbs of Gwangmyeong city and will be team Mousesports's official practice house. The construction cost of the house will be partially covered by MaNa's tournament winnings in assosiation with team Mousesports, the house has been dubbed "MaNas Lair". MaNa will be temporarily residing in the GOMTV house during the construction.
EDIT: seems like i have no credibility within the community, stay tuned for more updates from a more reliable source.
EDIT2: MaNa tweets.
"3m mouzMaNa@mouzMaNa
@iamTT1 already spread some news, we have the necessary gear. #MaNasLair. Can you recognize these boys?"
EDIT3: Mousesports's very own Kaelaris will be giving weekly updates on the state of the construction.
"44s mouzMaNa@mouzMaNa
We are happy to announce that @Kaelaris will be casting once per week the state of construction of #MaNasLair ."
EDIT4: Statement from Mouz|Kaelaris
On July 12 2012 04:59 mouzKaelaris wrote: I'm happy and excited to be part of the new project "MaNasLair", it's going to be an amazing opportunity for not only me, but for the community as a whole to grow and learn together. Through persistence, fortitude and solidarity we intend to create the best environment possible to breed a new level of talent, and as such I shall be bringing you all the action as it happens. From the first brick being laid, to the raising of the penultimate trophy, "MaNasLair" will be stand at the forefront of design.
A huge thank you to ESL and Mousesports for allowing me to pursue this endeavour, I hope not to disappoint.
On July 12 2012 05:26 mouzKaelaris wrote: For clarification: I shall be commentating on the full construction of the house. You won't miss a brick going down, you won't miss a new table or new chair being added to the interior, you won't miss a single lick of paint being added to the wall! - All the action, commentated SC2 style, up until the house is finished.
EDIT5: E-Sports heavy hitter Greg "EG.IdrA" Fields weighs into the announcement, appears to be optimistic.
On July 12 2012 06:01 IdrA wrote: that'll be sick. especially with draco on board.
EDIT6:
On July 12 2012 06:19 ROOTT1 wrote: ive just been contacted by the main sponsors of the project, apparently some of the information(regarding the funding of the house) that i reported was inacurate and theyre mad at me for leaking the news beforehand tt
everything will be cleared up soon, i apologize for the misinformation
Opening ceremony present for @mouzMaNa's #MaNaLair"
EDIT9: A statement from Funkay's team, 4K:
On July 12 2012 08:10 xiN. wrote: As a 4K representative, I have to add some things to what IceColdKilla previously said.
We did really not want this to be leaked... but it can't be undone. Therefore, we can confirm that 4K joined the project after DreamHack Summer 2012 - did MaNa's first place have an influence? -, even though the concept was initiated before. We are extremely excited about the MaNaLair as it is an enormous step for the brothers, but also for the whole StarCraft II community.
Without further adieu, all I can tell you is wait for the official press release. To be continued.
EDIT10:
On July 12 2012 08:02 aTnClouD wrote: I already knew this was in store, but wasn't sure I should have talked about it before this thread. GL to MaNa and the people involved in his project.
EDIT11: Khaldor offering his manly carpentery experience to help speed up the project.
On July 12 2012 10:13 Khaldor wrote: I talked to Draco and Mana as I think I might be able to help out a little bit as well. As it happens my grandfather owns a carpentry (is that the right word in english? Oo), well basically it's run by my uncle now but the fact remains that we might be able to work together with them on this project.
Right now it's of course only looking at the options but with me staying in Korea anyways I'd be happy to lend a hand and help speed up the process. Looking forward to work with Draco as well obviously!
EDIT12:THE END.
"mouzMaNa@mouzMaNa
All players in the #MaNasLair will have to dress in this style. This is the official #MaNasLair uniform."
While I support this plan, my real estate focused legal mind is shattered at the risks involved. That is a lot of money to invest, but it is a great long term plan. As long as they have a good plan. The plan is key. They should strongly consider renting practice space out to non-korean teams, if the house can support it. It would be a great way to off set the costs and allows for good marketing across several teams.
On July 12 2012 02:56 Plansix wrote: While I support this plan, my real estate focused legal mind is shattered at the risks involved. That is a lot of money to invest, but it is a great long term plan. As long as they have a good plan. The plan is key. They should strongly consider renting practice space out to non-korean teams, if the house can support it. It would be a great way to off set the costs and allows for good marketing across several teams.
Mana won 11k in DH. Honestly that isnt much money to invest in a house at all, or am I totally wrong considering its Korea...? Are things under priced overthere??? Even with mouz supporting aswell I dont think it`s enough money, i dont know..and its not like Mana is straight investing 11k here..
Well, if MaNa in august, How fast do they build a house really? ^^, I guess he could go there twice or something. If he doesn't stay until it's finished that is. ))))
On July 12 2012 03:29 Zrow wrote: Well, if MaNa in august, How fast do they build a house really? ^^, I guess he could go there twice or something. If he doesn't stay until it's finished that is. ))))
Really cool btw,
E-Sport hero class by MaNa to do such a thing.
he really is a class act, we need more people like mana within the community
On July 12 2012 02:49 ROOTT1 wrote: The construction cost of the house will be partially covered by MaNa's DH winnings in assosiation with team Mousesports, the house will be under MaNa's name and has been dubbed "The MaNa Lair".
Unless they plan to build the house out of gypsum cardboard, I see no way how 15k USD (Mana's DH winnings) would be even close to suffiecent for building anything bigger than 10x10 feet shack. Not to mention that the ground area alone should cost somewhere in hundreds of thousands...
It's rumored that after building the and stabilizing the house in Korea, he will go to Africa with Draco to make buildings and houses for homeless in poor countries.
On July 12 2012 02:49 ROOTT1 wrote: The construction cost of the house will be partially covered by MaNa's DH winnings in assosiation with team Mousesports, the house will be under MaNa's name and has been dubbed "The MaNa Lair".
Unless they plan to build the house out of gypsum cardboard, I see no way how 15k USD (Mana's DH winnings) would be even close to suffiecent for building anything bigger than 10x10 feet shack. Not to mention that the ground area alone should cost somewhere in hundreds of thousands...
Maybe I just didn't get the joke in the thread!?
Not sure but i've heard that you can rent places, can you?
Mana also said that he is going to shower gifts from on high, hence mana from heaven. Fact. If not a troll, then good luck to him, but why would TT1 be posting this with no citations or references at all...
On July 12 2012 02:49 ROOTT1 wrote: The construction cost of the house will be partially covered by MaNa's DH winnings in assosiation with team Mousesports, the house will be under MaNa's name and has been dubbed "The MaNa Lair".
Unless they plan to build the house out of gypsum cardboard, I see no way how 15k USD (Mana's DH winnings) would be even close to suffiecent for building anything bigger than 10x10 feet shack. Not to mention that the ground area alone should cost somewhere in hundreds of thousands...
Maybe I just didn't get the joke in the thread!?
?????????????????????? mouz is putting some money down aswell, its called a down payment buddy
what do you guys mean with draco come back etc? He is actually playing quite a bit of sc2 lol... hes high masters on EU server
also this picture is recent I am pretty sure about that,,, the acc logged in the background is Draco's ladderaccount and you can tell that its a recent picture of MaNa because of his looks
Is that kids champagne in the bottom right corner? In a frying pan... with a trophy in it. And with Draco with some stick on his ear... It's a troll, cmon'... too obvious. 15k isn't enough to cover even the basics and I don't think the team is investing that much, building houses is really expensive. Nice pic though.
OK, so either Mana is participating in this troll or something awesome is happening. I´ll wait for an official statement by Mouz, which will surely never come ;P
On July 12 2012 02:49 ROOTT1 wrote: The construction cost of the house will be partially covered by MaNa's DH winnings in assosiation with team Mousesports, the house will be under MaNa's name and has been dubbed "The MaNa Lair".
Unless they plan to build the house out of gypsum cardboard, I see no way how 15k USD (Mana's DH winnings) would be even close to suffiecent for building anything bigger than 10x10 feet shack. Not to mention that the ground area alone should cost somewhere in hundreds of thousands...
how much would it cost to actually build a house? short research on naver shows whole duplex/triplex around $400,000 to $1mil depending on size in gwangmyeong area.
$500,000 for 11bed/5bath, 2500sqft, not bad.
dh winnigs surely wont cover it, is mousesport that rich?
Are we really talking about building a new house from scratch here or building in the sense of putting together the hardware, furniture and establishing an apartment as a proper training facility?
Build a house might also mean rent an apartment, call it a practice/pro mousesports house and since it's maybe MaNa's idea and he does some funding it will be under his name and will be therefore called Mana's lair.. then using few k$ from his DH win would be ok with the help from mousesports.
If troll or not, this is totally possible and I don't see why it couldnt happen...
On July 12 2012 04:33 jinorazi wrote: how much would it cost to actually build a house? short research on naver shows whole duplex/triplex around $400,000 to $1mil depending on size in gwangmyeong area.
$500,000 for 11bed/5bath, 2500sqft, not bad.
dh winnigs surely wont cover it, is mousesport that rich?
They can loan man, it's possible, and maybe with Draco helping it lowers the cost a bit? Same with MaNa, giving that money helps with the interests. Mouz could be richer than we think. Waiting on a bit more proof though.
i cant tell if massive troll or not, but Mana has won morethen this money in his sc2career so far and also his brother could have money or they may even of inherited more money you never know the ins and outs and if mouz and draco all contribute you have a few different amounts of money to be added!
just wonder what will happen when they want to sell if its split in different ways!
I'm happy and excited to be part of the new project "MaNasLair", it's going to be an amazing opportunity for not only me, but for the community as a whole to grow and learn together. Through persistence, fortitude and solidarity we intend to create the best environment possible to breed a new level of talent, and as such I shall be bringing you all the action as it happens. From the first brick being laid, to the raising of the penultimate trophy, "MaNasLair" will be stand at the forefront of design.
A huge thank you to ESL and Mousesports for allowing me to pursue this endeavour, I hope not to disappoint.
On July 12 2012 04:59 mouzKaelaris wrote: I'm happy and excited to be part of the new project "MaNasLair", it's going to be an amazing opportunity for not only me, but for the community as a whole to grow and learn together. Through persistence, fortitude and solidarity we intend to create the best environment possible to breed a new level of talent, and as such I shall be bringing you all the action as it happens. From the first brick being laid, to the raising of the penultimate trophy, "MaNasLair" will be stand at the forefront of design.
A huge thank you to ESL and Mousesports for allowing me to pursue this endeavour, I hope not to disappoint.
Looks like everyone who thought TTOne was trolling looks like a bunch of moronic fools . Mana has been making updates about the "Manalair" as he himself called it.
On July 12 2012 05:10 ROOTT1 wrote: i think nerchio/morrow/kas/stephano + the mouz players would make for an excellent practice environment, anyone else u guys can think of?
On July 12 2012 05:10 ROOTT1 wrote: i think nerchio/morrow/kas/stephano + the mouz players would make for an excellent practice environment, anyone else u guys can think of?
JUAN would just add so much value, dont u think?
yea but juan snores alot, dunno how well hed fit with the rest of the players
On July 12 2012 05:19 Sphaero wrote: OK, lets see how long it takes until Hasu joins the troll train ^^
Are you truly that dense? MaNa has already tweeted it's a real thing. An apparently a guy named Kaerlaris(?) will be casting once a week with updates on the construction of the house.
the man wins 1 tournament with immortal all-ins and somehow he is the second coming? We all know the answer between the korean & non-korean discrepancy: Non-koreans seem so much more pre-occupied with PR than actually practice, perhaps if that much time was spent getting ahead of the metagame curve, their performance wouldn't be subpar.
ok, after reading a little. this is really smart by them. He wont lose the money, but rather invest it and get it back later. This is a really good idea! Hope several talented players can join this house in korea! (pls Draco comback ;D mouz.Draco)
For clarification: I shall be commentating on the full construction of the house. You won't miss a brick going down, you won't miss a new table or new chair being added to the interior, you won't miss a single lick of paint being added to the wall! - All the action, commentated SC2 style, up until the house is finished.
On July 12 2012 05:19 Sphaero wrote: OK, lets see how long it takes until Hasu joins the troll train ^^
Are you truly that dense? MaNa has already tweeted it's a real thing. An apparently a guy named Kaerlaris(?) will be casting once a week with updates on the construction of the house.
Excuse me for not believing everything, because of a couple of tweets (especially when Mana tweeted that he will be staying at the Gom house 12 hours ago) or TL posts.
It is just not realistic. Even though the organization Mousesports had never financial problems and has solid founding the risk of building a house for a huge amount of money is extreme. If we would talk about renting something, it would be a different story, but actually building one?
If I should be wrong, I gladly eat my words, because something like this would like a dream coming true, but until I see something official by the organization I believe nothing.
EDIT: And the last tweet basically confirmed the troll ^^
On July 12 2012 05:19 Sphaero wrote: OK, lets see how long it takes until Hasu joins the troll train ^^
Are you truly that dense? MaNa has already tweeted it's a real thing. An apparently a guy named Kaerlaris(?) will be casting once a week with updates on the construction of the house.
Quoted so you can forever be mocked. Lots of love.
On July 12 2012 05:19 Sphaero wrote: OK, lets see how long it takes until Hasu joins the troll train ^^
Are you truly that dense? MaNa has already tweeted it's a real thing. An apparently a guy named Kaerlaris(?) will be casting once a week with updates on the construction of the house.
Excuse me for not believing everything, because of a couple of tweets (especially when Mana tweeted that he will be staying at the Gom house 12 hours ago) or TL posts.
It is just not realistic. Even though the organization Mousesports had never financial problems and has solid founding the risk of building a house for a huge amount of money is extreme. If we would talk about renting something, it would be a different story, but actually building one?
If I should be wrong, I gladly eat my words, because something like this would like a dream coming true, but until I see something official by the organization I believe nothing.
This as well.
The thing that makes this troll completly unbelievable is that they would construct a house for Mana even though he is only going to Korea for 2 months. On top of that: do you really think that they can start with a barren piece of land and have a solid practice facility within 2 months and then flip it again? It's complete bullshit and actually telling about the stupidity of people that they actually fall for this kind of crap.
Final nail in the coffin: Isn't anyone that believes in this fairy tale not finding it a bit strange that the Mousesports official website doesn't list a single thing about this?
Lol at = Evil and = Good. But seriously, this is very crazy news. Looks like they are building a proxy somehwhere in Korea. Gonna catch em off guard if they don't scout.
Yeah thats true MaNa's making own gaming house and the main sponsor is www.NetWars.pl polish community forum of Blizzard games. It's almost the same like in the past when NetWars send two addicional players to korea on World Cyber Games ( Draco and Yayba ). We make some king of a free donations and like every one know NW this is biggest Polish gaming forum so theres a lot of people chatting over there. We make 55k$, MaNa's put into the pot some of his own money ( cant say how mutch, he didn't want to say that to public ), missing money assured sponsor's of MaNa and people who want to invest in those kide of a project .
On July 12 2012 05:19 Sphaero wrote: OK, lets see how long it takes until Hasu joins the troll train ^^
Are you truly that dense? MaNa has already tweeted it's a real thing. An apparently a guy named Kaerlaris(?) will be casting once a week with updates on the construction of the house.
Quoted so you can forever be mocked. Lots of love.
Yeah thats true MaNa's making own gaming house and the main sponsor is www.NetWars.pl polish community forum of Blizzard games. It's almost the same like in the past when NetWars send two addicional players to korea on World Cyber Games ( Draco and Yayba ). We make some king of a free donations and like every one know NW this is biggest Polish gaming forum so theres a lot of people chatting over there. We make 55k$, MaNa's put into the pot some of his own money ( cant say how mutch, he didn't want to say that to public ), missing money assured sponsor's of MaNa and people who want to invest in those kide of a project .
My troll detector is going crazy but it would be cool if they built a new frat house over there. To believe or not to believe. I want to but right now I can't.
If foreigners train as hard as the Koreans against other top Koreans, nothing will happen in skill... they will have to train HARDER to CATCH up to that skill gap. That might mean 2 extra hours a day, better relationships (buy Nestea dinner once for an hour practice session), and listening to coaches.
Once there, they can train the same amount and be good if not better. Look at Naniwa... that man trains all day against top players.
On July 12 2012 05:56 Boonbag wrote: lol u guys got any idea how much land costs over there
They dont need to bouild a new house for sure you can rent a house think some...
renting = plausible, believable
this whole thread is based on building a house, no mention of renting or buying. buying will definitely not investment worthy unless mouse is also looking into foreign estate investments as gwangmyeong's property value went up 5% the first quarter.
(to buy) spending $500,000 + tax (~23% for foreign buyers) does not seem like a good investment just for a starcraft practice house. unless they want to make it into mousesport korean HQ or something.
but all this is moot because its obvious trolling...or hiding some other truth.
i wanted to believe, i'tll be awesome but
i dont nkow how much land would cost but if the house could be built with very low cost, as it is being suggested, it is possible. i can't say on this matter because i dont know how much it'll actually cost to build the house, less than buying i'm sure.
I'm not sure, if I can say this right now (well, it's not official yet), but as a representative of Netwars.pl (biggest polish StarCraft fansite) I can give you some more infos on MaNaLair.
Some of you, especially older BW veterans, may know Netwars for it's specific atmosphere, outdated website and very active and energetic community. We have done a lot of tournaments, fan meetings, talk-shows with pros, and even some fund-raising. Remember sending Yayba and Draco to WCG China? That's our work.
So we have collected quite a lot of money since 2009. Also we managed to gain some sponsors (mainly polish IT and hardware companies) to make our biggest dream possible. By that we mean MaNaLair, which is going to be a revolutionary project. MaNa and other managers will provide more information soon. All I can say now, is that Netwars.pl and it's sponsors will pay for the actual house and some of the player's gear. Other expenses, such as traveling, food etc. will be paid by players teams
There is a huge post on Netwars.pl about the whole situation, but right now it's not published. Only a small group of elite users know all the details. Sooner or later you will be able to read that post (both in polish and english).
For anybody that doesn't believe in my and routin's post: Remember HomeStory Cup 5 and MaNa plugin Netwars.pl? Well, that was a little glimpse of the future project. Also Tarson, Carmac, Nerchio and other main characters of polish StarCraft scene have been involved in this project for years. That's why they kept shouting-out to Netwars.pl
Also, some of you may have heard about Draco coming back to progaming. It has been rumoured that legendary Protoss is going to work for Ministry of Win Prohouse as a coach. He changed his mind, and decided to continue his eSports carrer as a player. Right know he is living with MaNa and Funkay (as you can see on the photos above) and practicing as hard as Komincz brothers do. Note that MaNa one of the best Protoss players in Europe, so combining Draco's talent and progaming experience with MaNa's SC2 knowledge we will get probably the most fearsome StarCraft 2 player of all time.
I'm glad to be a part of this community, which was able to make our dream real.
On July 12 2012 06:01 IdrA wrote: that'll be sick. especially with draco on board.
Yeah, making carriers is very useful talent toi have. Hope they will not be removed from HotS, so Draco could use them even more.
ive just been contacted by the main sponsors of the project, apparently some of the information(regarding the funding of the house) that i reported was inacurate and theyre mad at me for leaking the news beforehand tt
everything will be cleared up soon, i apologize for the misinformation
I think players with large potentials should be in this house. Players like Huk are good but have proven to be worthy and can make it to gsl code s ro8. I think ROOTCatz could be really good if he focused his schedule and played a lot. Stephano who is although already at a very high level of play should compete in code s because he would do really really well. Idra has complained in the past about the language barrier. With this house he gets the best of both worlds, TONS of practice and the ability to communicate with other players without having a language barrier. Also maybe they would allow Hobbs to stay there aswell i am sure his cat would like it xD. And lastly nerchio and sase both players that could benefit in korea to play a ton, compete at the highest level, and be able to communicate with other foreigners.
From reliable source I heard that Stephano might join the project, they are close friends with MaNa and practice partners too. Also Stephano himself announced that he's going to Korea, but never told where he's going to live. For me, pieces of the puzzle just started to fit. It's going to be awesome, foreigners having their own practice house in Korea, more comfortable than gom house, and not dependant to any korean team.
On July 12 2012 05:26 Sc2Null wrote: the man wins 1 tournament with immortal all-ins and somehow he is the second coming? We all know the answer between the korean & non-korean discrepancy: Non-koreans seem so much more pre-occupied with PR than actually practice, perhaps if that much time was spent getting ahead of the metagame curve, their performance wouldn't be subpar.
while this may be true for some players you have to realize that non-koreans have the added incentive to satisfy fans or get new ones for the sake of sponsors, which can only be a good thing for the e-sports scene.
But yeah, ideally most players have someone else to take care of all this PR crap for them so they can just focus on practicing..
ive just been contacted by the main sponsors of the project, apparently some of the information that i reported was inacurate and theyre mad at me for leaking the news beforehand tt
everything will be cleared up soon, i apologize for the misinformation
I can't imagine someone being angry about their big secrets being leaked. Why would they be mad about that?
On July 12 2012 07:25 Legio wrote: Can we get some background on this Draco guy? Whats so great about him, what did he do in Korea? He seems to be buddies with IdrA?
On July 12 2012 07:25 Legio wrote: Can we get some background on this Draco guy? Whats so great about him, what did he do in Korea? He seems to be buddies with IdrA?
This is truly amazing, I thought it was a joke at first but now I feel elated. Best of luck to Mana, Draco and everybody involved. You are literally, with your own hands, building Starcraft II as an eSport. Once, again best of luck and please keep us informed!
On July 12 2012 07:15 SomeONEx wrote: Manas got a bit of hybris I feel Wish him the best of luck!
If this was "MaNa betting all his winnings on 0 in roulette because he feels lucky right now", then yes. Seeing the amount of players (of differing skill levels) going to Korea to sit in the GOMhouse and ladder all day I don't see why a team/foreigner house with actual schedules, coaches, skilled players would be a bad investment. Imagine the row of sponsors lining up for such a venture. On second thought, doesn't seem to be real. Shits and giggles while I keep buying my GSL pass but nothing else
On July 12 2012 08:02 aTnClouD wrote: I already knew this was in store, but wasn't sure I should have talked about it before this thread. GL to MaNa and the people involved in his project.
wait what? edit: im not sure if we are getting trolled or MaNa being the biggest boss on the planet
As a 4K representative, I have to add some things to what IceColdKilla previously said.
We did really not want this to be leaked... but it can't be undone. Therefore, we can confirm that 4K joined the project after DreamHack Summer 2012 - did MaNa's first place have an influence? -, even though the concept was initiated before. We are extremely excited about the MaNaLair as it is an enormous step for the brothers, but also for the whole StarCraft II community.
Without further adieu, all I can tell you is wait for the official press release. To be continued.
Can people really be believing this? If you think a little you'll see this is a joke that was sort of organized between some pros. No one would come out and say " Wow, didn't want this to be revealed so soon"
On July 12 2012 03:49 Inflicted_ wrote: Using DH winnings? If they're like WCG, this house should be paid for by early 2015.
Mana for sure got money..he is making more from sc2 then idra and many many more players , he is 20 place right now.. http://sc2earnings.com/
He's not talking about him not earning money. It's just that tournament organizations tend to take forever to pay out their prizes (hence the comment about WCG and being paid by 2015)
I feel like this is just a superbly executed troll...well go big or go home gg wp TrollT1
judging just by the wording in the OP it seems far too...idk the word but you get what I mean, it just radiates troll
(i reserve the right to edit this if it actually is true so I look like someone who wasn't totally mindfucked by this thread)
EDIT: how long til this gets out of hand? 2 more hours, 3? a day? a week? if nothing is said saying whether this is real or not i have a feeling pitchforks will be sharpened ere the fortnight is upon us...this'll be interesting *grabs popcorn and patiently waits*
On July 12 2012 08:32 Sega92 wrote: I feel like this is just a superbly executed troll...well go big or go home gg wp TrollT1
judging just by the wording in the OP it seems far too...idk the word but you get what I mean, it just radiates troll
(i reserve the right to edit this if it actually is true so I look like someone who wasn't totally mindfucked by this thread)
I reserve the right to quote your original post so your original post is preserved eternally for future generation to lol at. (if applicable ofc)
=^.^=
Anyways, it COULD be true - suppose mouzsports is just setting up for a long-term foreigner house in Korea. It hardly makes sense as an investment for a single team, but as a hub for foreigner SC2/egaming in Korea, it has some possibilities. Plus which even if the house fails, the investment could probably be recouped by selling the house back into the market.
If this is serious I can offer my own services. I am a fabric merchant and a quite accomplished dressmaker. If you cover the costs of flying over, living arrangements and food for a few years I can provide my excellence to redeem the current fad of atrociously clad programers. You have 10 days to respond.
No information on the training regiment. No information on the training. They're building a house. Ok.
Here's why this is an empty action: Korea doesn't have magical dirt that makes you a top level progamer by standing on it. Or Pho. Or anything else.
You can have a training house anywhere and have the same results as long as you have the same dedication. I'm thinking that no one could be stupid enough to think that simply going to Korea will make you great at eSports. So I'm going to go with Option 2: This is a hype-vertisement.
On July 12 2012 08:46 HeIios wrote: If this is serious I can offer my own services. I am a fabric merchant and a quite accomplished dressmaker. If you cover the costs of flying over, living arrangements and food for a few years I can provide my excellence to redeem the current fad of atrociously clad programers. You have 10 days to respond.
If you were a serious professional, you would have provided information regarding your qualifications, or at the very least pictures of samples or work you have already created.
On July 12 2012 08:47 Probe1 wrote: No information on the training regiment. No information on the training. They're building a house. Ok.
Here's why this is an empty action: Korea doesn't have magical dirt that makes you a top level progamer by standing on it. Or Pho. Or anything else.
You can have a training house anywhere and have the same results as long as you have the same dedication. I'm thinking that no one could be stupid enough to think that simply going to Korea will make you great at eSports. So I'm going to go with Option 2: This is a hype-vertisement.
I agree with that .. but not 100% , the fact is we dont know anything. , maby mouz is making some Kr partnership ? , maby mana talked with some korean players ? , we dont know anything...
sorry, but this is the most obvious troll ive ever seen. players and "representatives" suddenly jumping on the announcement train and shouting out random stuff they just made up to join this show. nope ...
On July 12 2012 08:10 xiN. wrote: As a 4K representative, I have to add some things to what IceColdKilla previously said.
We did really not want this to be leaked... but it can't be undone. Therefore, we can confirm that 4K joined the project after DreamHack Summer 2012 - did MaNa's first place have an influence? -, even though the concept was initiated before. We are extremely excited about the MaNaLair as it is an enormous step for the brothers, but also for the whole StarCraft II community.
Without further adieu, all I can tell you is wait for the official press release. To be continued.
ok guys....
IM FREAKING PUMPED !!! :D
it's too many people, too many traces, it's just one huge uncontrolled leak mana keeps retweeting tweets of mouz connected to EG, looks like there is an agreement between EG, mouz and now 4K... this is going to be HUUUUGE
They may be letting this thread go for a little too long. I think a lot of people are seriously believing this and aren't going to be too happy when they find out it's a load of crap. That April Fools Eclypsia nonsense comes to mind again.
On July 12 2012 08:59 DeathSquire36 wrote: They may be letting this thread go for a little too long. I think a lot of people are seriously believing this and aren't going to be too happy when they find out it's a load of crap. That April Fools Eclypsia nonsense comes to mind again.
Eh, I think this is kind of different. That was a team doing some bizarre shit for PR. This is a bunch of pros from a variety of teams trolling everyone for fun. If people are going to be pissed it isn't real it's their own fault. It's a TT1 thread.
On July 12 2012 08:59 DeathSquire36 wrote: They may be letting this thread go for a little too long. I think a lot of people are seriously believing this and aren't going to be too happy when they find out it's a load of crap. That April Fools Eclypsia nonsense comes to mind again.
Eh, I think this is kind of different. That was a team doing some bizarre shit for PR. This is a bunch of pros from a variety of teams trolling everyone for fun. If people are going to be pissed it isn't real it's their own fault. It's a TT1 thread.
True. Just don't want to see more community bitching.
On July 12 2012 09:05 Dosey wrote: What if it is true...
And TT1 and Destiny have combined their trolling powers in the complete counter troll mindfuck
Then us skeptics will be pleasantly surprised. It would be pretty sick if this was real, but I'll believe it if there's an actual press release from a team.
On July 12 2012 08:59 DeathSquire36 wrote: They may be letting this thread go for a little too long. I think a lot of people are seriously believing this and aren't going to be too happy when they find out it's a load of crap. That April Fools Eclypsia nonsense comes to mind again.
People don't come to TL forums to be happy.
It's funny because it's true. Lol.
Anyways, there was that thread a little ways back where TT1 was getting beat on a little bit, remember? Somebody was like Beastyqt awesome and TT1 is for lulz. TT1 was there, commented, he got beat on a bit. Then the OP got heavily edited - plus I think pages 2-6 got chopped. So you could maybe say this was TT1's revenge.
Or what if it's true and TT1's revenge is posting to make people think it's NOT true?
TT1 you mastermind! All you need now is a long-haired cat to stroke as you laugh.
(thats a Blofeld / James Bond reference - where the mastermind villain strokes a long-haired cat)
On July 12 2012 08:59 DeathSquire36 wrote: They may be letting this thread go for a little too long. I think a lot of people are seriously believing this and aren't going to be too happy when they find out it's a load of crap. That April Fools Eclypsia nonsense comes to mind again.
Eh, I think this is kind of different. That was a team doing some bizarre shit for PR. This is a bunch of pros from a variety of teams trolling everyone for fun. If people are going to be pissed it isn't real it's their own fault. It's a TT1 thread.
Do you really think that TT1 looks up all the sources and posts them in this thread just for the sake of a joke?
And you really think that all these pros care about this thread so much that they started to add up to it just for the joke?
Actually, it's turning around, and you start to look silly. This is not a joke at all...
On July 12 2012 08:47 Probe1 wrote: No information on the training regiment. No information on the training. They're building a house. Ok.
Here's why this is an empty action: Korea doesn't have magical dirt that makes you a top level progamer by standing on it. Or Pho. Or anything else.
You can have a training house anywhere and have the same results as long as you have the same dedication. I'm thinking that no one could be stupid enough to think that simply going to Korea will make you great at eSports. So I'm going to go with Option 2: This is a hype-vertisement.
I agree with that .. but not 100% , the fact is we dont know anything. , maby mouz is making some Kr partnership ? , maby mana talked with some korean players ? , we dont know anything...
unless Mana hires a Korean Coach to stand over the players with a meter stick, it wont do squat
I call bullshit: Oh so someone got some paper in his hand with a pencil behind his ear: Must be plans/constructing something! Oh there's a sign saying "Manas Lair" must be a pro gamer house! Where's the best place to train? Korea! Looks more like someone is making up a story to those two pictures or just bad trolling from anyone involved. Maybe some kids believe this, you could do better...
Spending the winnings on a flat or a house in Poland would make sense. But in Korea? I think those guys are smarter than risking that.
On July 12 2012 08:59 DeathSquire36 wrote: They may be letting this thread go for a little too long. I think a lot of people are seriously believing this and aren't going to be too happy when they find out it's a load of crap. That April Fools Eclypsia nonsense comes to mind again.
Eh, I think this is kind of different. That was a team doing some bizarre shit for PR. This is a bunch of pros from a variety of teams trolling everyone for fun. If people are going to be pissed it isn't real it's their own fault. It's a TT1 thread.
Do you really think that TT1 looks up all the sources and posts them here just for the sake of a joke?
And you really think that all these pros care about this thread so much that they started to add up to it just for the joke?
Actually, it's turning around, and you start to look silly. This is not a joke at all...
I don't care if I look silly. If it's real it's awesome and I will be pleasantly surprised. I just kind of doubt TT1 would leak something like this if it were real instead of allowing Mana, ESL, and mouz to announce it. I'll be happy if it's real, if it isn't, at least I didn't get my hopes up.
And based on what I've seen, Payam will take a joke/troll pretty far.
On July 12 2012 08:59 DeathSquire36 wrote: They may be letting this thread go for a little too long. I think a lot of people are seriously believing this and aren't going to be too happy when they find out it's a load of crap. That April Fools Eclypsia nonsense comes to mind again.
Eh, I think this is kind of different. That was a team doing some bizarre shit for PR. This is a bunch of pros from a variety of teams trolling everyone for fun. If people are going to be pissed it isn't real it's their own fault. It's a TT1 thread.
Do you really think that TT1 looks up all the sources and posts them here just for the sake of a joke?
And you really think that all these pros care about this thread so much that they started to add up to it just for the joke?
Actually, it's turning around, and you start to look silly. This is not a joke at all...
I don't care if I look silly. If it's real it's awesome and I will be pleasantly surprised. I just kind of doubt TT1 would leak something like this if it were real instead of allowing Mana, ESL, and mouz to announce it. I'll be happy if it's real, if it isn't, at least I didn't get my hopes up.
And based on what I've seen, Payam will take a joke/troll pretty far.
Well MaNa kinda already confirmed it on his twitter :l
On July 12 2012 09:13 r00ty wrote: I call bullshit: Oh so someone got some paper in his hand with a pencil behind his ear: Must be plans/constructing something! Oh there's a sign saying "Manas Lair" must be a pro gamer house! Where's the best place to train? Korea! Looks more like someone is making up a story to those two pictures or just bad trolling from anyone involved. Maybe some kids believe this, you could do better...
Spending the winnings on a flat or a house in Poland would make sense. But in Korea? I think those guys are smarter than risking that.
thats where this comes into play tt
On July 12 2012 06:19 ROOTT1 wrote: ive just been contacted by the main sponsors of the project, apparently some of the information(regarding the funding of the house) that i reported was inacurate and theyre mad at me for leaking the news beforehand tt
everything will be cleared up soon, i apologize for the misinformation
Actually some posts are fake here, e.g. the one about Stephano (confirmed on NetWars). Probably also the idea of "building a house" is fake. Most probably they'll just rent one... But it seems that there is something going on.
I'm willing to bet something is up. What that something is may not be exactly what's presented here. Hard to say really. TT1 you are a master of either trolling or announcement hype.
On July 12 2012 09:13 r00ty wrote: I call bullshit: Oh so someone got some paper in his hand with a pencil behind his ear: Must be plans/constructing something! Oh there's a sign saying "Manas Lair" must be a pro gamer house! Where's the best place to train? Korea! Looks more like someone is making up a story to those two pictures or just bad trolling from anyone involved. Maybe some kids believe this, you could do better...
Spending the winnings on a flat or a house in Poland would make sense. But in Korea? I think those guys are smarter than risking that.
On July 12 2012 06:19 ROOTT1 wrote: ive just been contacted by the main sponsors of the project, apparently some of the information(regarding the funding of the house) that i reported was inacurate and theyre mad at me for leaking the news beforehand tt
everything will be cleared up soon, i apologize for the misinformation
sorry i wasnt aware of all the details
Without any deeper insight on the Korean real estate market i still say it would be way too stupid (building a house in a foreign country half around the world without any deeper knowledge and good connections?) and the second statement is far from being convincing. I believe in what i see or can't deny. If they are going to rent their own flat/house it would be believable. If it goes on like that it's a funny idea and i wish those guys all the best.
On July 12 2012 07:25 Legio wrote: Can we get some background on this Draco guy? Whats so great about him, what did he do in Korea? He seems to be buddies with IdrA?
This is fucking awesome, epic troll indeed, well played. Miles ahead of those Eclypsia disasters and most of the other April Fools fails this year. Well done sir.
On July 12 2012 09:28 r00ty wrote: (snip)If they are going to rent their own flat/house it would be believable.(snip)
Gwangmyeong is under development. It makes perfect sense for preparatory plans to be drawn up, provided of course those plans are subject to later modification. Considering TT1's posts to this point, there is no reason to believe that is not the case.
As far as "reality" - what with influence, connections, &c, it is entirely feasible that a non-Korean investment into a gaming house in Gwangmyeong could be considered a reasonable risk investment.
People are just getting way too messed up in their heads about this, talking about proof, this, that, whatever. Frankly, it is not to be expected that internal politics and finance details SHOULD be made public. Those that are somehow expecting such details to be published are imo rude and unrealistic as it would be to demand that day9 publish webcam footage of the difficult situation he's now apparently undergoing.
On July 12 2012 10:07 MysteryTerran wrote: Draco, one of my FAVORITE players from the BW days. I loved how he simcitied his factories ^^ awesome news!!
It makes perfect sense for preparatory plans to be drawn up, provided of course those plans are subject to later modification. Considering TT1's posts to this point, there is no reason to believe that is not the case.
Yeah, like in the first picture right? It looks like that time we did cheap website promo fotos for a company i used to work at. "Now look like you're planning something!" A risk investment would also only work out with some deeper knowledge of the real estate market over there and with all due respect, i still doubt it's at hand with the people involved.
I'd still like to say bad trolling but you made me pay some attention and post a couple of times, i was even close to check out the Korean real estate market. So yeah i gotta admit, i feel a bit trolled.
I don't even know the background of all this. Just when he mentioned that he was building a house in korea is unbelievable by itself. At least put up some pics of more monay lol
I talked to Draco and Mana as I think I might be able to help out a little bit as well. As it happens my grandfather owns a carpentry (is that the right word in english? Oo), well basically it's run by my uncle now but the fact remains that we might be able to work together with them on this project.
Right now it's of course only looking at the options but with me staying in Korea anyways I'd be happy to lend a hand and help speed up the process. Looking forward to work with Draco as well obviously!
On July 12 2012 10:13 Khaldor wrote: I talked to Draco and Mana as I think I might be able to help out a little bit as well. As it happens my grandfather owns a carpentry (is that the right word in english? Oo), well basically it's run by my uncle now but the fact remains that we might be able to work together with them on this project.
Right now it's of course only looking at the options but with me staying in Korea anyways I'd be happy to lend a hand and help speed up the process. Looking forward to work with Draco as well obviously!
On July 12 2012 10:13 Khaldor wrote: I talked to Draco and Mana as I think I might be able to help out a little bit as well. As it happens my grandfather owns a carpentry (is that the right word in english? Oo), well basically it's run by my uncle now but the fact remains that we might be able to work together with them on this project.
Right now it's of course only looking at the options but with me staying in Korea anyways I'd be happy to lend a hand and help speed up the process. Looking forward to work with Draco as well obviously!
Draco is sitting at the computer chair and I know I sound crazy and i'm a lil bit tipsy at the moment, but the account on the screen kind of looks like Draco too... One can only hope.
On July 12 2012 10:07 MysteryTerran wrote: Draco, one of my FAVORITE players from the BW days. I loved how he simcitied his factories ^^ awesome news!!
On July 12 2012 10:20 GGzerG wrote: Draco is sitting at the computer chair and I know I sound crazy and i'm a lil bit tipsy at the moment, but the account on the screen kind of looks like Draco too... One can only hope.
On July 12 2012 10:07 MysteryTerran wrote: Draco, one of my FAVORITE players from the BW days. I loved how he simcitied his factories ^^ awesome news!!
On July 12 2012 10:07 MysteryTerran wrote: Draco, one of my FAVORITE players from the BW days. I loved how he simcitied his factories ^^ awesome news!!
Actually guys Im not sure what are you talking about trolling. The truth is that Draco with Mana are planning to create a prohouse. Its only a plan and I've no idea how far they go but they need your support!
On July 12 2012 11:01 00Visor wrote: I begin to believe this. If its a troll than its the troll of the year.
You notice that there have been posts saying that it's troll if it's *true*, because of grandmaster troll reverse psychology.
So wait... Is the troll the actual troll or the idea of a troll trolling when there is no troll? Or the troll trolling that there is a troll when there actually is a troll going on to troll everyone who caught the visible troll?
On July 12 2012 11:01 00Visor wrote: I begin to believe this. If its a troll than its the troll of the year.
You notice that there have been posts saying that it's troll if it's *true*, because of grandmaster troll reverse psychology.
So wait... Is the troll the actual troll or the idea of a troll trolling when there is no troll? Or the troll trolling that there is a troll when there actually is a troll going on to troll everyone who caught the visible troll?
On July 12 2012 11:01 00Visor wrote: I begin to believe this. If its a troll than its the troll of the year.
You notice that there have been posts saying that it's troll if it's *true*, because of grandmaster troll reverse psychology.
So wait... Is the troll the actual troll or the idea of a troll trolling when there is no troll? Or the troll trolling that there is a troll when there actually is a troll going on to troll everyone who caught the visible troll?
This is the sloppiest announcement ever -_-! It's hard to even take this seriously with all the edits and he said she said. But I think I'm excited for what may actually happen?
I'm happy that Destiny is considering not joining the MoW. I don't even know why he was invited to HSC. His ZvT build has no potential. If he can keep his american metagame away from the EU server that is all good ... What if everyone were playing random strategies and all-ins in pro tournaments? It would result in mass BAD GAMES and we want to make admins happy with good games that are MACRO ......lol
I want TargA back but I think he will find peace in the new house. He will do a great job as a guard.
To those building the house: put in conduits and don't cheap out on cat6 for the computer rooms. Stick as many ports as possible. Get a good gigabit switch (not a cheapo 50USD type, get something that can has real backplane speed). Also, make sure you have enough power everywhere.
Wait... what... no way... this is real? I can't imagine real estate prices in Korea to be cheap considering just how damn crowded the place is. Also is this the announcement that mouz were talking about twitter, or is it still mouz.Genius? Or both?
On July 12 2012 13:11 leperphilliac wrote: Wait... what... no way... this is real? I can't imagine real estate prices in Korea to be cheap considering just how damn crowded the place is. Also is this the announcement that mouz were talking about twitter, or is it still mouz.Genius? Or both?
You're thinking of Seoul, Gwangmyeon is like cheaper housing for people who want to be close to Seoul but can't afford to actually live there.
This is either the best troll ever or the sickest, most ambitious team expansion to Korea ever.
On July 12 2012 13:11 leperphilliac wrote: Wait... what... no way... this is real? I can't imagine real estate prices in Korea to be cheap considering just how damn crowded the place is. Also is this the announcement that mouz were talking about twitter, or is it still mouz.Genius? Or both?
You're thinking of Seoul, Gwangmyeon is like cheaper housing for people who want to be close to Seoul but can't afford to actually live there.
This is either the best troll ever or the sickest, most ambitious team expansion to Korea ever.
Gwangmyeong-si is definitely cheaper than Seoul, but most of the people live in apartments because lands are still pretty expensive. I hardly remember seeing any house in this area, so I wonder where they are planning on building this house.
On July 12 2012 13:11 leperphilliac wrote: Wait... what... no way... this is real? I can't imagine real estate prices in Korea to be cheap considering just how damn crowded the place is. Also is this the announcement that mouz were talking about twitter, or is it still mouz.Genius? Or both?
You're thinking of Seoul, Gwangmyeon is like cheaper housing for people who want to be close to Seoul but can't afford to actually live there.
This is either the best troll ever or the sickest, most ambitious team expansion to Korea ever.
Gwangmyeong-si is definitely cheaper than Seoul, but most of the people live in apartments because lands are still pretty expensive. I hardly remember seeing any house in this area, so I wonder where they are planning on building this house.
They are trolling man.Don't buy this.Its TT1 posting.
Although Gwangmyeong-si is cheaper than Seoul, the land is still really expensive like what you said. Adding in foreign tax which should be around 20%,the cost of building one team house is pretty expensive unless you have cables.
On July 12 2012 12:48 Snute wrote: I'm happy that Destiny is considering not joining the MoW. I don't even know why he was invited to HSC. His ZvT build has no potential. If he can keep his american metagame away from the EU server that is all good ... What if everyone were playing random strategies and all-ins in pro tournaments? It would result in mass BAD GAMES and we want to make admins happy with good games that are MACRO ......lol
I want TargA back but I think he will find peace in the new house. He will do a great job as a guard.
Why go saying things on the net that you'd have the sense and common decency not to say to or about people in real life. Like when you were in the same house with him just over a week ago? If you want to improve the scene you could start by worrying about yourself and the manners you're bringing to it. And stop whining in the guise of concern. Your examples of "what if everyone did this" are ridiculous because not everyone does do that. Are you actually dogmatically opposed to anyone playing that way? Everything you've shared sounds like a personal problem, rather than a problem for Destiny or the scene as a whole.
On July 12 2012 12:48 Snute wrote: I'm happy that Destiny is considering not joining the MoW. I don't even know why he was invited to HSC. His ZvT build has no potential. If he can keep his american metagame away from the EU server that is all good ... What if everyone were playing random strategies and all-ins in pro tournaments? It would result in mass BAD GAMES and we want to make admins happy with good games that are MACRO ......lol
I want TargA back but I think he will find peace in the new house. He will do a great job as a guard.
Why go saying things on the net that you'd have the sense and common decency not to say to or about people in real life. Like when you were in the same house with him just over a week ago? If you want to improve the scene you could start by worrying about yourself and the manners you're bringing to it. And stop whining in the guise of concern. Your examples of "what if everyone did this" are ridiculous because not everyone does do that. Are you actually dogmatically opposed to anyone playing that way? Everything you've shared sounds like a personal problem, rather than a problem for Destiny or the scene as a whole.
On July 12 2012 12:48 Snute wrote: I'm happy that Destiny is considering not joining the MoW. I don't even know why he was invited to HSC. His ZvT build has no potential. If he can keep his american metagame away from the EU server that is all good ... What if everyone were playing random strategies and all-ins in pro tournaments? It would result in mass BAD GAMES and we want to make admins happy with good games that are MACRO ......lol
I want TargA back but I think he will find peace in the new house. He will do a great job as a guard.
Why go saying things on the net that you'd have the sense and common decency not to say to or about people in real life. Like when you were in the same house with him just over a week ago? If you want to improve the scene you could start by worrying about yourself and the manners you're bringing to it. And stop whining in the guise of concern. Your examples of "what if everyone did this" are ridiculous because not everyone does do that. Are you actually dogmatically opposed to anyone playing that way? Everything you've shared sounds like a personal problem, rather than a problem for Destiny or the scene as a whole.
This reads like another hint that this is all a giant conspiracy and a joke that we poor munchkins will find out about later and feel duped.
On July 12 2012 12:48 Snute wrote: I'm happy that Destiny is considering not joining the MoW. I don't even know why he was invited to HSC. His ZvT build has no potential. If he can keep his american metagame away from the EU server that is all good ... What if everyone were playing random strategies and all-ins in pro tournaments? It would result in mass BAD GAMES and we want to make admins happy with good games that are MACRO ......lol
I want TargA back but I think he will find peace in the new house. He will do a great job as a guard.
Why go saying things on the net that you'd have the sense and common decency not to say to or about people in real life. Like when you were in the same house with him just over a week ago? If you want to improve the scene you could start by worrying about yourself and the manners you're bringing to it. And stop whining in the guise of concern. Your examples of "what if everyone did this" are ridiculous because not everyone does do that. Are you actually dogmatically opposed to anyone playing that way? Everything you've shared sounds like a personal problem, rather than a problem for Destiny or the scene as a whole.
Something in me thinks this was a hilariously awesome drunken scheme cooked up at HSC. That or the most ambitious move to Korea we have seen yet. And Snute comment seems like a joke to me, people need to not take forum post 100% serious all the time.
On July 12 2012 14:36 SupLilSon wrote: Something in me thinks this was a hilariously awesome drunken scheme cooked up at HSC. That or the most ambitious move to Korea we have seen yet. And Snute comment seems like a joke to me, people need to not take forum post 100% serious all the time.
Of course the Snute comment is a joke, it's way over the top. And I think you're right this was conceived of at homestory cup. It doesn't explain TT1's involvement, but Idra, Destiny, Mana, Snute, and Cloud have all commented too. I mean, look at the 11 edits TT1 has made. The whole thing is ridiculous and hilarious.
On July 12 2012 12:35 GTR wrote: who gives a fuck about the house.
MOTHER FUCKING DRACO IS ALIVE.
Seriously, everybody who wasn't here before sc2 MUST watch this right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_qqxPysnL8 Words cannot even describe how iconic this match is for many distinct reasons.
Imagine waking up to the state of the thread as it it now beginning on page 1 and feeling like the dude who only heard the last 1/10th of a joke and everyone is laughing and you really really want to laugh too but you have no idea why so you just get sad for not having any idea about what is going on ...
On July 12 2012 12:35 GTR wrote: who gives a fuck about the house.
MOTHER FUCKING DRACO IS ALIVE.
Seriously, everybody who wasn't here before sc2 MUST watch this right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_qqxPysnL8 Words cannot even describe how iconic this match is for many distinct reasons.
I dont see why you have to be in korea to have the same training opportunities as the korean players? Other than the korean ladder, there is nothing holding any other house back from training just as much or just like they do...
On July 12 2012 20:28 CaptainCrush wrote: I dont see why you have to be in korea to have the same training opportunities as the korean players? Other than the korean ladder, there is nothing holding any other house back from training just as much or just like they do...
Talking with players .. abouth build , timing , mindset etc , sometimes help more then massive ladder play.
On July 12 2012 20:49 SilSol wrote: why is people still talking about this? hes just joking and 70% of you guys fell for it! WOW if this was true damn i wud eat my words right now..
People like you make me laugh... In one sade.. you try to make idiots from others that we belive it..
and in other side.. you write if it is true..., to make excuse , when you will be wrong.
mouzMaNa @mouzMaNa All players in the #MaNasLair will have to dress in this style. This is the official #MaNasLair uniform. pic.twitter.com/4tmLs6bZ
On July 12 2012 20:28 CaptainCrush wrote: I dont see why you have to be in korea to have the same training opportunities as the korean players? Other than the korean ladder, there is nothing holding any other house back from training just as much or just like they do...
Talking with players .. abouth build , timing , mindset etc , sometimes help more then massive ladder play.
Right, but you can do that in any gaming house, anywhere. I just dont see why he would have to build it in Korea.
On July 12 2012 20:28 CaptainCrush wrote: I dont see why you have to be in korea to have the same training opportunities as the korean players? Other than the korean ladder, there is nothing holding any other house back from training just as much or just like they do...
Talking with players .. abouth build , timing , mindset etc , sometimes help more then massive ladder play.
Right, but you can do that in any gaming house, anywhere. I just dont see why he would have to build it in Korea.
FXO, Liquid, EG, Fnatic and now Mouz, setting up camps in Korea. I feel like foreign teams are stepping it up. Lets hope for more foreigners in GSL and OSL.
On July 12 2012 20:28 CaptainCrush wrote: I dont see why you have to be in korea to have the same training opportunities as the korean players? Other than the korean ladder, there is nothing holding any other house back from training just as much or just like they do...
Talking with players .. abouth build , timing , mindset etc , sometimes help more then massive ladder play.
Right, but you can do that in any gaming house, anywhere. I just dont see why he would have to build it in Korea.
You said it yourself, Korean ladder.
So people would go at such lengths just to play korean ladder? Isnt it generally accepted that practice games with the same level of players > laddering? And if you assemble a good pick of players you can arrange practice games with some other top houses. Hell you can even pay korean houses for practice games and still have lots of money saved. The only real issue is participation in Korean bases tourneys.
First I thought it might be real even though I didn't understand the decision to waste the dreamhack money that way. Now all the edits cleared it up and made me LOL heavily =)
what makes me sad is that people think this is trolling, or did the word change it's meaning so drastically in the last few years? I liket it when trolling was not equal to joking because guess what we already have a word for that
On July 13 2012 04:24 Sorkoas wrote: This was even more awkward than Bomber's april fool's troll about him quitting progaming to do his military service.
On July 12 2012 21:12 lolspoon wrote: mouzMaNa @mouzMaNa All players in the #MaNasLair will have to dress in this style. This is the official #MaNasLair uniform. pic.twitter.com/4tmLs6bZ
The thing is, that could have been remotely true, like Bomber quitting progaming. That's why it's always disappointing (well reassuring in the other case :D) in the end.
On July 12 2012 07:25 Legio wrote: Can we get some background on this Draco guy? Whats so great about him, what did he do in Korea? He seems to be buddies with IdrA?
On July 13 2012 09:35 ZenithM wrote: The thing is, that could have been remotely true, like Bomber quitting progaming. That's why it's always disappointing (well reassuring in the other case :D) in the end.
Honestly TT1's track record combined with a house being funded by a player combined with unknown sources and the team not naming the house after themselves but after a player makes it pretty much impossible to be true.
Having said that I am surprised that as many people fell for this.
On July 12 2012 07:25 Legio wrote: Can we get some background on this Draco guy? Whats so great about him, what did he do in Korea? He seems to be buddies with IdrA?
On May 14 2013 01:29 ZeRoX-45 wrote: I am sorry for bump, but what is happening to this house? There's no news for months about this. This project was abandoned or?
On May 14 2013 01:29 ZeRoX-45 wrote: I am sorry for bump, but what is happening to this house? There's no news for months about this. This project was abandoned or?
On May 14 2013 01:29 ZeRoX-45 wrote: I am sorry for bump, but what is happening to this house? There's no news for months about this. This project was abandoned or?
He needs more lumber.
He has all the lumber he needs, but his lumber stretcher broke and he has to get one shipped in.
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This can't be true right? >_<
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