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Canada1165 Posts
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petrox
Australia320 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On July 10 2012 12:42 Chytilova wrote: Well sure Shy looked decent, but did you see that KeSPA zerg? Didn't look like rapid improvement to me. He looked bad. Maybe he's the Ace of ZvP. | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Korean announcement : [1] http://esports.gomtv.com/gsl/community/view.gom?msgid=32742 Korean SC2 Ready Action VODs: [2] http://ch.gomtv.com/list.gom?ch=4555&intpid=28119&type=3 Format: Match 1 – KeSPA-based team player A vs E-sports federation or GSTL-based team player C Match 2 – KeSPA-based team player B vs E-sports federation or GSTL-based team player D Macth 3 – a winner of Match 1 vs a winner of Match 2 Every match consisted of BO3 Every player will be coming from different team. a name of the player and team will be revealed on Match 3 but until then, it will be anonymous. Map pool: 1st week: Entombed Valley, Ohana, Daybreak I'm not sure this program provides streaming through Gomtv.net. But at least, residents of KR can watch KeSPA vs GSL action every Monday 6:00PM KST in July. Just hoping that GomTV release the official announcement for English viewers. Why is everyone so sure it's a "GSL" player ? It could be Tiger or Trickster... Only the playstyle give a hint, but still, I wouldn't be so sure until it's confirmed... Just so this calm down a bit, remember July ? Was quite a good player in broodwar mh ? Still, he's very good at SC2, but not as brilliant as he was in BW (and he's been quite declining recently. This can very well depends of motivation or transition conditions... | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On July 10 2012 17:19 Ragnarork wrote: Relatively speaking July sucks at broodwar if you consider his skill vs the competition when he left it for sc2.Quick reminder : Why is everyone so sure it's a "GSL" player ? It could be Tiger or Trickster... Only the playstyle give a hint, but still, I wouldn't be so sure until it's confirmed... Just so this calm down a bit, remember July ? Was quite a good player in broodwar mh ? Still, he's very good at SC2, but not as brilliant as he was in BW (and he's been quite declining recently. This can very well depends of motivation or transition conditions... | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
Dear GOMTV.net users, We would like to present you 4 special episodes of our Korean StarCraft II Variety Show "Ready Action!". Enjoy great matches between KeSPA Team Players and GSL Team Players once a week for 4 weeks! Details: - Theme: StarCraft II Ready Action - Cross Match - Broadcast Schedule: Airing live every Monday from July 9th for 4 weeks - Hosted in Korean by Jung Jin-Ho and Hwang Young-Jae - Live stream for international audience: This show is only aired in Korea. A relay of the Korean broadcast is under consideration, more information will be released in the near future. - VODs: Available on the day after the broadcast on GOMTV's official YouTube Channel * Please note that English commentary will not be available for this show Players: - 2 players: From teams who belong to the Korean e-Sports Association (KeSPA) - 2 players: From teams who belong to the e-Sports Federation or have participated in the GSTL - Each player will be from a different team Format: - Match 1: KeSPA Team Player A vs e-Sports Federation/GSTL Team Player A - Match 2: KeSPA Team Player B vs e-Sports Federation/GSTL Team Player B - Match 3: Match 1 Winner vs Match 2 Winner - All matches are best of 3 Player identities: - Match 1 and Match 2: Player IDs and teams will be anonymous - Match 3: Both players’ teams will be revealed - Match 3 Winner: The player's ID will be revealed Mappool: - 1st week: Entombed Valley, Ohana, Daybreak Thank you. GOMTV.net http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=223014&cid=0&kind=8 | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On July 10 2012 11:25 Veldril wrote: So ESV weekly does not count into the record? Sorry, but ESV weekly is a good tournament for guaging players' skills. Many current great players (Taeja, for example) did really really well in ESV weekly and it translate into GSL results later. Shouldn't that mean a player who went 3-7 in PvP in ESV weekly does not play PvP very well? Sure it might not be GSL, but ESV is still a tournament that many players compete in seriously. And if you want to ignore ESV that badly, then his record in GSL/GSTL is 2-5. That's 28.5% win rate. His PvP record in ESV is actually better. Ace is a bad PvP player. I would not be surprised if he lost to other KesPA's players in PvP. 2/5=0.4. That is 40%. Ace's overall record is composed of games player over a long period of time. Therefore, it is hardly an indicator of his current level. Now, let us consider a few things here: His overall international PvP record is 18 - 11 (62%), where he played mostly against Koreans. His record against Koreans (international and Korean) in 2012 is 8 - 9 (47%). If we cut out the first three months out, we get to 5 - 4 (55%). Seems to me like he has been quite capable in this matchup recently, so people should probably stop making it sound like AcE is bad. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=100&part=games&league=standard&vs=P | ||
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Spidinko
Slovakia1174 Posts
2 wins, 5 losses. That's not 40%.. math fail ? | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On July 10 2012 19:27 Spidinko wrote: ^ 2 wins, 5 losses. That's not 40%.. math fail ? My bad, I was thinking of 2 wins out of 5 games. | ||
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maximuspita
1093 Posts
2W/7G = 28.5% | ||
storywriter
Australia528 Posts
He said that he didn't want Parting and Squirtle to take the blame and also mentioned his disapproval of barcode players BMing on the ladder. I could translate the whole article if anyone wants more detail. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 10 2012 20:08 storywriter wrote: Ace revealed on his twitter that it was in fact him who lost in this showmatch (source as reported by TiG: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13438&id=1240309) He said that he didn't want Parting and Squirtle to take the blame and also mentioned his disapproval of barcode players BMing on the ladder. I could translate the whole article if anyone wants more detail. What's the thing with Barcode BMing ? | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On July 09 2012 19:52 mrtomjones wrote: Why the hell would GOM want it to seem like Kespa is catching up? Before you rag on a great company who has done a ton of things to work out for us non Koreans perhaps you should think on your damn logic, or lack thereof. On July 09 2012 19:52 gk_ender wrote: Man your dumb Kespa and Gom compete for broadcast space. Gom would want to show the kespa players arent good to draw more sponsors to theyre practically sponsor-less team. It is a common idea in Korea that the kespa players will stomp the GSL players and now would be the perfect time for them to prove the opposite. Gom are weasels. Corporate version of attention whores. They'll do anything to get views which equal money. Hence persistent foreigner seeds that don't really deserve it (Nani proved an exception). Kespa vs Gom is a rivalry. Rivalry sells. A couple of terrible matches make viewers go away. Good matches make people tell their friends about the show. You're dumb if you think Kespa players wont eventually compete in Gom leagues, and vice versa. If Kespa players turn out terrible, the charge is lessened, the interest is lessened. I'm 100% convinced Gom is praying that BW pros catch up as soon as possible, because that means dozens of thousands fanboys and fangirls switching their attention from BW to SC2. | ||
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OneBaseKing
Afghanistan412 Posts
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Magrath
Canada292 Posts
On July 10 2012 20:08 storywriter wrote: Ace revealed on his twitter that it was in fact him who lost in this showmatch (source as reported by TiG: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13438&id=1240309) He said that he didn't want Parting and Squirtle to take the blame and also mentioned his disapproval of barcode players BMing on the ladder. I could translate the whole article if anyone wants more detail. I wouldn't mind reading it. Please do if you have time. | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
There have been cases of barcode players leaving ladder games without gg's. In korea, i guess thats "BM" haha :p | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On July 10 2012 09:01 rauk wrote: as much as i like to bash on sc2 being a terrible game i'd attribute it to the stricter training regime of kespa teams and the fact that 90% of gsl code s players were b-teamers or worse in broodwar An yet many good BW programmers when transferred over to SC2 didn't do so well so your comment has about zero ground. BW elitism really needs to die out seriously both games are really great games but the elitism many BW fans feel is just completely baseless and false in many instances. Such as your statement here. Nada was great in the BW days but failed to win much of anything in SC2 hmmmm that alone disproves your theory there as does July not really winning much as well, shall I go on? Compare the SC2 careers of MVP,MMA, an MC vs that of a Nada or July. It's not even funny how far apart they are so quit it with the elitism seriously. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5860 Posts
On July 11 2012 01:14 Catatonic wrote: An yet many good BW programmers when transferred over to SC2 didn't do so well so your comment has about zero ground. BW elitism really needs to die out seriously both games are really great games but the elitism many BW fans feel is just completely baseless and false in many instances. Such as your statement here. Nada was great in the BW days but failed to win much of anything in SC2 hmmmm that alone disproves your theory there as does July not really winning much as well, shall I go on? Compare the SC2 careers of MVP,MMA, an MC vs that of a Nada or July. It's not even funny how far apart they are so quit it with the elitism seriously. You are seriously clueless if you mention NaDa and July, who were several years past their prime BW wise when they switched. They were barely able to keep up with B-team players (unless they went on some rampage like July during his last OSL win). Yet NaDa consistently placed top8 in GSL while attending university. On July 10 2012 23:09 Fragile51 wrote: There have been cases of barcode players leaving ladder games without gg's. In korea, i guess thats "BM" haha :p Haha, you haven't seen Korean BM, then. "You mother fuck you pussy dog!!" that's more like it. ;p | ||
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