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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 05 2012 10:18 GMT
#101
People seem really ignorant about the skill level of the BW pros in sc2. they aren't very good right now. Roro is the best and he's not close to the foreigners in korea right now.

they'll obviously get better but. anyone whose seen PL knows the games look like random ladder matches from a masters NA player.

Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
July 05 2012 10:24 GMT
#102
The BW pros are going to get absolutely rocked right now. Should be fun to watch anyway though.
aka ilovesharkpeople
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
July 05 2012 10:52 GMT
#103
On July 05 2012 17:55 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 17:44 naux wrote:
To most of people who think SC1 players will get destroyed. In the beginning i been saying, don't over hype these guys its a new game to them they aren't going to master it for awhile. But if people have been watching the Proleague you see a instant/drastic improvement to there players. Coaches and players say things such as give us a 1 year and we will become GREAT but lets be honest here, they don't need 1 year they are being modest, taking the pressure off themselves, and also telling people to calm down/relax. What has now happened? Close to everyone thinks these SC:BW players will get OWNED by SC2 pros, people dont even know how long they been training for couldve been months to a year you think they will be telling everyone the truth?

my prediction effort is gonna be the rising star of the sc:bw players and show everyone what it truly takes to play zerg.


You've not seen the MLG KeSPA invitationnal, have you ?

I truly enjoyed it, had nerd chills every single game, and I was very happy with the level of play i've seen. Though, you could still see their play did not match with the mid-tier/top-tier SC2 pro's (just watch Stork/Bisu placing FF, it wasn't very good).

I agree that they'll catch up quickly, and probably faster than what people may think, but just not while they're playing the OSL. It just not possible.

I don't know how we could rank them among all the SC2 progamers, but surely not as high as GSL participants...


Of course i watched it, i probably watch more Kespa matches than most people here. You actually think those players really care about a tournament that barely has any meaning to them? Flash proxy raxed so many times when he was playing, you telling me he did that just because he thought Protoss is OP?

HotS is coming out, SC2 METAGAME will change completely and with the minimal time i seen SC:BW adapt its amazing. Just watch the SC:BW players are gonna take back there throne and show people who are truly the STARS of the scene is and i am one of the people that WANT SC2 players to dominate these Kespa pros.

I truly believe its not Foreigners VS Koreans anymore. Its gonna change to SC2 Originals VS SC:BW Originals
starfinder
Profile Joined March 2012
Japan167 Posts
July 05 2012 11:21 GMT
#104
so it begins
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#105
On July 05 2012 20:21 starfinder wrote:
so it begins

so it ends
Что?
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 05 2012 11:32 GMT
#106
On July 05 2012 19:52 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 17:55 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 05 2012 17:44 naux wrote:
To most of people who think SC1 players will get destroyed. In the beginning i been saying, don't over hype these guys its a new game to them they aren't going to master it for awhile. But if people have been watching the Proleague you see a instant/drastic improvement to there players. Coaches and players say things such as give us a 1 year and we will become GREAT but lets be honest here, they don't need 1 year they are being modest, taking the pressure off themselves, and also telling people to calm down/relax. What has now happened? Close to everyone thinks these SC:BW players will get OWNED by SC2 pros, people dont even know how long they been training for couldve been months to a year you think they will be telling everyone the truth?

my prediction effort is gonna be the rising star of the sc:bw players and show everyone what it truly takes to play zerg.


You've not seen the MLG KeSPA invitationnal, have you ?

I truly enjoyed it, had nerd chills every single game, and I was very happy with the level of play i've seen. Though, you could still see their play did not match with the mid-tier/top-tier SC2 pro's (just watch Stork/Bisu placing FF, it wasn't very good).

I agree that they'll catch up quickly, and probably faster than what people may think, but just not while they're playing the OSL. It just not possible.

I don't know how we could rank them among all the SC2 progamers, but surely not as high as GSL participants...


Of course i watched it, i probably watch more Kespa matches than most people here. You actually think those players really care about a tournament that barely has any meaning to them? Flash proxy raxed so many times when he was playing, you telling me he did that just because he thought Protoss is OP?

HotS is coming out, SC2 METAGAME will change completely and with the minimal time i seen SC:BW adapt its amazing. Just watch the SC:BW players are gonna take back there throne and show people who are truly the STARS of the scene is and i am one of the people that WANT SC2 players to dominate these Kespa pros.

I truly believe its not Foreigners VS Koreans anymore. Its gonna change to SC2 Originals VS SC:BW Originals

Yup thats pretty interesting story-line that cooked almost itself (ekhm..).

Most succesful BW guys have already plenty of trophies and money (TBLS). The whole SC2 is pretty new experience for them, it was maaaany years past since they felt like "rookies". And in fact ALL of Kespa players are rookies of SC2 right now, including Flash, pretty interesting considered their past careers and standindgs. You can feel they have mixed emotions and goals but this fact may invigorate some of them to try hard to get it back, and obstacles will probably rather help than harm. Its all about their remaining desire and ambition.

Stork[gm]
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 05 2012 11:36 GMT
#107
omg! i CAN'T wait for this too happen really! so excited and nerd chills!
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
July 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#108
On July 05 2012 20:27 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:21 starfinder wrote:
so it begins

so it ends

I see what you did there

Every news to potentially see my dong is a good news

One thing though, it is going to be a weekly thing ?
OP said every monday :o
di3alot
Profile Joined December 2011
172 Posts
July 05 2012 11:38 GMT
#109
poor kespa players...its a shame they are put threw this.
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
July 05 2012 11:43 GMT
#110
Well this should be....Entertaining.

If they play at their MLG level this will be painfully one-sided, if they got alot better we might be in for a treat tho.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 05 2012 11:44 GMT
#111
Dammit they should just trash the dual game PL format so that they can have 100% focus on SC2 after this OSL.
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
July 05 2012 11:45 GMT
#112
On July 05 2012 20:44 Kommander wrote:
Dammit they should just trash the dual game PL format so that they can have 100% focus on SC2 after this OSL.


isn't that the plan?
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 05 2012 11:47 GMT
#113
On July 05 2012 20:45 Emix_Squall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:44 Kommander wrote:
Dammit they should just trash the dual game PL format so that they can have 100% focus on SC2 after this OSL.


isn't that the plan?


No as in trash the format now. PL isn't going to end till September/October IIRC, so their focus is still going to be split up until then.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 11:48:27
July 05 2012 11:47 GMT
#114
On July 05 2012 20:44 Kommander wrote:
Dammit they should just trash the dual game PL format so that they can have 100% focus on SC2 after this OSL.

I hope kespa plans on doing it, the BW games arent particular good at all these days and it will only get worse with the ending of OSL. Since none of the BW gamers will play much BW at that point
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
July 05 2012 11:50 GMT
#115
On July 05 2012 14:35 Clefairy wrote:
[image loading]


What is this drawing supposed to represent ?!? (I've got an idea, but I know that young people come in TL, so...)
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
July 05 2012 11:50 GMT
#116
That's a good thing for the Kespa players since the first two games are anonymous.
If in the third game, when the names are anounced, are two GOM players, nobody knows, which Kespa players have lost before.
And if one Kespa player reaches the third game, it is a huge success for him.

I just hope we can see this outside of Korea!!
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
July 05 2012 12:11 GMT
#117
On July 05 2012 20:50 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 14:35 Clefairy wrote:
[image loading]


What is this drawing supposed to represent ?!? (I've got an idea, but I know that young people come in TL, so...)

The text on the black board says "Action school", i don't think they teach these things in school :o
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
July 05 2012 12:12 GMT
#118
On July 05 2012 17:55 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 17:44 naux wrote:
To most of people who think SC1 players will get destroyed. In the beginning i been saying, don't over hype these guys its a new game to them they aren't going to master it for awhile. But if people have been watching the Proleague you see a instant/drastic improvement to there players. Coaches and players say things such as give us a 1 year and we will become GREAT but lets be honest here, they don't need 1 year they are being modest, taking the pressure off themselves, and also telling people to calm down/relax. What has now happened? Close to everyone thinks these SC:BW players will get OWNED by SC2 pros, people dont even know how long they been training for couldve been months to a year you think they will be telling everyone the truth?

my prediction effort is gonna be the rising star of the sc:bw players and show everyone what it truly takes to play zerg.


You've not seen the MLG KeSPA invitationnal, have you ?


They didn't send effort at that tournament. Leta represented CJ.
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 05 2012 12:15 GMT
#119
On July 05 2012 20:47 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:44 Kommander wrote:
Dammit they should just trash the dual game PL format so that they can have 100% focus on SC2 after this OSL.

I hope kespa plans on doing it, the BW games arent particular good at all these days and it will only get worse with the ending of OSL. Since none of the BW gamers will play much BW at that point


After this PL finals, PL will make the switch to SCToo full-time
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
July 05 2012 12:17 GMT
#120
the Gom players are gonna trash those kespa pros
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