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KeSPA vs GSL players cross-match - Page 4

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Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
July 05 2012 06:34 GMT
#61
All I can say is: there needs to be coverage of this!
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 05 2012 06:37 GMT
#62
On July 05 2012 15:20 J1.au wrote:
What's the point of this?

faaaaaaaaaaan serviiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
I'm actually expecting the nonKespa players to go all out, since losing to players with much less experience would be kinda embarrassing.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 05 2012 06:38 GMT
#63
On July 05 2012 15:26 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 14:44 Kluey wrote:
On July 05 2012 13:54 SupLilSon wrote:
On July 05 2012 13:48 Sea_Food wrote:
Afaik the kespa,players aint even forgeiner pro level yet.


Considering many of them have reached GM level on Korea server, you don't seem to know what you are talking about.


Many players are able to get GM level on Korea server... IdrA was like rank 60 or something iirc.


Yes, and idrA is really really f-ing good. What is your point ?


He's saying that a foreigner who has barely been putting up any results at all for the past 3 months can get into GM on the KR server.

KeSpa players are just gonna get buttfucked, this is way too early for them to start even competing in code A level play. Flash and BaBy are probably the only ones who can maybe barely make it past round 3 or 4 of the Code A qualifiers, wayy too early to embarrass them like this.
TomoeMami
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan48 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 06:55:15
July 05 2012 06:45 GMT
#64
On July 05 2012 14:12 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
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On July 05 2012 13:54 docvoc wrote:
The question is who is Gom gonna send, I think we all realize how bad TvZ is right now for pros so wouldn't it be an easy win to send in Symbol against the terrans... Seriously the scariest players besides Jaedong play Terran so for Symbol it would be an "easy" win. It would be a great game though. I think that if they put in Inori in a PvP it would be all but over for anyone he played. My point here is that Gom can easily win this but is that the point? If that is not the point, what would be the point of the showmatch?



My guess is this is to introduce GSL fans who only watch sc2 to the Kespa players. GOM may send out someone good, but not the best, like Revival, so it won't be a rollover. Of course, if that is what they do it kind of defeats the idea of a show match, showing off the best from each side. Who knows what they will choose to do lol


I have a good idea: Inca, the "Dark Knight"!
I'll not cry anymore
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 05 2012 06:46 GMT
#65
On July 05 2012 15:38 LanTAs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 15:26 one-one-one wrote:
On July 05 2012 14:44 Kluey wrote:
On July 05 2012 13:54 SupLilSon wrote:
On July 05 2012 13:48 Sea_Food wrote:
Afaik the kespa,players aint even forgeiner pro level yet.


Considering many of them have reached GM level on Korea server, you don't seem to know what you are talking about.


Many players are able to get GM level on Korea server... IdrA was like rank 60 or something iirc.


Yes, and idrA is really really f-ing good. What is your point ?


He's saying that a foreigner who has barely been putting up any results at all for the past 3 months can get into GM on the KR server.

KeSpa players are just gonna get buttfucked, this is way too early for them to start even competing in code A level play. Flash and BaBy are probably the only ones who can maybe barely make it past round 3 or 4 of the Code A qualifiers, wayy too early to embarrass them like this.

Actually Effort and Roro are the best, currently.
Stork[gm]
TomoeMami
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan48 Posts
July 05 2012 06:50 GMT
#66
On July 05 2012 15:00 TheMilkyOne wrote:
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On July 05 2012 14:53 ArvickHero wrote:
2-3months playing time vs 1-2years playing time

sounds cool ok

EDIT*: Talent,Gift vs Practice


Do not underestimate GSL players' talents.

However I admit that many BW players' gifts have already proved.

I'll not cry anymore
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
July 05 2012 06:52 GMT
#67
On July 05 2012 13:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
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On July 05 2012 13:47 mastergriggy wrote:
No offense...but this is putting an amateur team against a pro team. I understand that the BW pros are good and have grown exponentially amazing at this game, but still there is no way that any of the top code s players would lose.

You're wrong.

If you are High Masters/GM on the Korean server (all the BW pros are pretty much this), then you will be able to take games off Code S players regardless.


That's a ridiculous claim. Have you watched the BW games? They look like high master/low grandmaster games. They don't know the current metagame, there is no chance in hell for them.
Write your own song!
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 07:01:25
July 05 2012 06:59 GMT
#68
On July 05 2012 15:38 LanTAs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 15:26 one-one-one wrote:
On July 05 2012 14:44 Kluey wrote:
On July 05 2012 13:54 SupLilSon wrote:
On July 05 2012 13:48 Sea_Food wrote:
Afaik the kespa,players aint even forgeiner pro level yet.


Considering many of them have reached GM level on Korea server, you don't seem to know what you are talking about.


Many players are able to get GM level on Korea server... IdrA was like rank 60 or something iirc.


Yes, and idrA is really really f-ing good. What is your point ?


He's saying that a foreigner who has barely been putting up any results at all for the past 3 months can get into GM on the KR server.

KeSpa players are just gonna get buttfucked, this is way too early for them to start even competing in code A level play. Flash and BaBy are probably the only ones who can maybe barely make it past round 3 or 4 of the Code A qualifiers, wayy too early to embarrass them like this.


So because idrA doesn't win stuff all of the time the kespa players will lose to the GSL players. I don't get it.

idrA is top GM on NA and GM on KR.

It is funny how ppl like you guys keep using the "omg he hasn't won anything lately and therefore he must be bad" argument. It doesn't work like that. There is a whole bunch of players at the absolute top who hasn't showed any special results in a while. That doesn't make them bad. Why is that ?

Well, there are only so many tournaments , and each tournament can only have one winner ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
July 05 2012 07:00 GMT
#69
On July 05 2012 15:52 mastergriggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 13:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On July 05 2012 13:47 mastergriggy wrote:
No offense...but this is putting an amateur team against a pro team. I understand that the BW pros are good and have grown exponentially amazing at this game, but still there is no way that any of the top code s players would lose.

You're wrong.

If you are High Masters/GM on the Korean server (all the BW pros are pretty much this), then you will be able to take games off Code S players regardless.


That's a ridiculous claim. Have you watched the BW games? They look like high master/low grandmaster games. They don't know the current metagame, there is no chance in hell for them.


Agreed. The difference in skill between High Masters and Code S is astronomical.
boomudead1
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States186 Posts
July 05 2012 07:09 GMT
#70
man... its all about the money now. they just want more viewers. dont even care about the players, putting players with a few months of prac vs top class players is so...
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 05 2012 07:13 GMT
#71
On July 05 2012 16:09 boomudead1 wrote:
man... its all about the money now. they just want more viewers. dont even care about the players, putting players with a few months of prac vs top class players is so...


Yeah boo hoo. How do you expect the Kespa players to ever catch up if there's no pressure on them to do so?
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2012 07:13 GMT
#72
On July 05 2012 16:09 boomudead1 wrote:
man... its all about the money now. they just want more viewers. dont even care about the players, putting players with a few months of prac vs top class players is so...


Sometimes the best method is to just push someone into the deepend and see what happens.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
July 05 2012 07:20 GMT
#73
Its for fun, will definetly watch it and keep score lol.

I wonder how much the OSL will effect the buissnes model of everything. Will the OSL be free will the GSL be free in response idk
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2012 07:21 GMT
#74
On July 05 2012 16:20 CrtBalorda wrote:
Its for fun, will definetly watch it and keep score lol.

I wonder how much the OSL will effect the buissnes model of everything. Will the OSL be free will the GSL be free in response idk


GSL is free.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1965 Posts
July 05 2012 07:22 GMT
#75
i think its too early but we will see
Total Annihilation Zero
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 05 2012 07:23 GMT
#76
This shall be a slaughter.

That being said I really want to see Mvp vs Flash.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
July 05 2012 07:24 GMT
#77
As someone in the thread said earlier, I don't think Kespa or the Kespa players would have agreed to something like this unless they were confident they had a good chance at winning. Maybe they've been having some success on the ladder or there's an agreement with GOM to only use Code B/A players or something. They obviously wouldn't have agreed to these games just to get stomped.
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CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
July 05 2012 07:30 GMT
#78
On July 05 2012 16:21 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 16:20 CrtBalorda wrote:
Its for fun, will definetly watch it and keep score lol.

I wonder how much the OSL will effect the buissnes model of everything. Will the OSL be free will the GSL be free in response idk


GSL is free.


no
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2012 07:35 GMT
#79
On July 05 2012 16:30 CrtBalorda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 16:21 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 16:20 CrtBalorda wrote:
Its for fun, will definetly watch it and keep score lol.

I wonder how much the OSL will effect the buissnes model of everything. Will the OSL be free will the GSL be free in response idk


GSL is free.


no


If I refer a friend to go watch GSL in 1 hour 35 minutes he can do so paying nothing so thus GSL is free.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 05 2012 07:35 GMT
#80
On July 05 2012 16:30 CrtBalorda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 16:21 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 16:20 CrtBalorda wrote:
Its for fun, will definetly watch it and keep score lol.

I wonder how much the OSL will effect the buissnes model of everything. Will the OSL be free will the GSL be free in response idk


GSL is free.


no


...Yes. You don't need to pay anything to watch it.
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