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On June 12 2012 04:11 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 03:16 Neurosis wrote:On June 11 2012 13:38 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming. He's definitely at the top but the last patch brought in a bunch more lol. I think Byul and Life could probably play at DRG's level or close to it. Doubt it, the patch doesn't make any zerg automatically gosu like drg lol.
It helps a lot though. Think about it. Suppose you're really good at injecting and macroing and decision making, but your scouting/microing are a little weak. This buff makes it extremely easy for you to get into the midgame without any real effort, and it grants you more time to react/scout/engage properly because of the greater amount of Creep.
DRG tacitly admitting the buff is too good is very honourable, from my perspective as a Protoss player.
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Symbol is on the same level as DRG i would say. He was tearing apart everybody recently. Just not had the best of luck at MLG.
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On June 12 2012 00:14 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill Not what he said, but sure. Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that? He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran. Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake. That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake. First off that's twisting what he said to mean something completely different and that actually is not what he said whatsoever. The thing that's really troubling for me about what he said is this bit: What he's basically saying is that how well his opponent plays is not important. Let's examine an extremely hypothetical situation; even if in half of DRG's ZvT games, he makes a mistake that costs him the game, it doesn't matter whether his opponent Terran played well or not in the outcome of the game. Similarly, if he doesn't make a mistake, and neither does his Terran opponent, he still wins. Having the outcome of the entire game be decided by a single player makes for a terrible game and a terrible match-up, especially at the highest level of play. StarCraft should not be decided by one player's plays, but rather it should be a competition. But yeah, basically he's saying that ZvT is broken.
You guys are reading waaayy to much into this. He could just be saying that he thinks he's the best player in the world (which a lot of people would agree with). If Flash said this no one would cry imbalance.
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On June 12 2012 04:18 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 04:11 blade55555 wrote:On June 12 2012 03:16 Neurosis wrote:On June 11 2012 13:38 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming. He's definitely at the top but the last patch brought in a bunch more lol. I think Byul and Life could probably play at DRG's level or close to it. Doubt it, the patch doesn't make any zerg automatically gosu like drg lol. It helps a lot though. Think about it. Suppose you're really good at injecting and macroing and decision making, but your scouting/microing are a little weak. This buff makes it extremely easy for you to get into the midgame without any real effort, and it grants you more time to react/scout/engage properly because of the greater amount of Creep. DRG tacitly admitting the buff is too good is very honourable, from my perspective as a Protoss player.
He also said it has virtually no effect on ZvP, it's more of a ZvT buff, no?
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His EPM was steadily around 500 for the last few series of games... Absolutely insane.
Congrats DRG, it was a great performance!
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1st off, congrats DRg for a sick run and win. Sase was sooo beast too wowowow props to him.
On June 11 2012 12:53 DYEAlabaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 12:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army. He is very young, so I think that he can put it off for a while. I know they let some bw players delay it... so hopefully sc2 as well.
DRG needs to enroll in Seoul Cyber University. IIRC that is the univ that bw progamers enrolled in order to delay their military service as long as possible (ex Jaedong, Nada)
relevant thread:Jaedong enrolls in Seoul Cyber University
TLDR the article: 50 BW players, coaches and e-sports personnel were enrolled in Seoul Cyber University at the date of the article (Feb 2nd, 2010)
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Surprised to see him admit the queen in ZvT has basically changed the matchup now. Good interview, he played absolutely crazily in his series against Alicia and the series against MKP.
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DRG a humble man and wise man
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On June 12 2012 04:44 fraktoasters wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 00:14 The Final Boss wrote:On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill Not what he said, but sure. Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that? He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran. Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake. That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake. First off that's twisting what he said to mean something completely different and that actually is not what he said whatsoever. The thing that's really troubling for me about what he said is this bit: regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not What he's basically saying is that how well his opponent plays is not important. Let's examine an extremely hypothetical situation; even if in half of DRG's ZvT games, he makes a mistake that costs him the game, it doesn't matter whether his opponent Terran played well or not in the outcome of the game. Similarly, if he doesn't make a mistake, and neither does his Terran opponent, he still wins. Having the outcome of the entire game be decided by a single player makes for a terrible game and a terrible match-up, especially at the highest level of play. StarCraft should not be decided by one player's plays, but rather it should be a competition. But yeah, basically he's saying that ZvT is broken. You guys are reading waaayy to much into this. He could just be saying that he thinks he's the best player in the world (which a lot of people would agree with). If Flash said this no one would cry imbalance.
Actually, Lightwip would cry.
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Congrats DRG. I followed all your games and was cheering for you the whole way. Way to represent Zerg!
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On June 12 2012 04:44 fraktoasters wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 00:14 The Final Boss wrote:On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill Not what he said, but sure. Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that? He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran. Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake. That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake. First off that's twisting what he said to mean something completely different and that actually is not what he said whatsoever. The thing that's really troubling for me about what he said is this bit: regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not What he's basically saying is that how well his opponent plays is not important. Let's examine an extremely hypothetical situation; even if in half of DRG's ZvT games, he makes a mistake that costs him the game, it doesn't matter whether his opponent Terran played well or not in the outcome of the game. Similarly, if he doesn't make a mistake, and neither does his Terran opponent, he still wins. Having the outcome of the entire game be decided by a single player makes for a terrible game and a terrible match-up, especially at the highest level of play. StarCraft should not be decided by one player's plays, but rather it should be a competition. But yeah, basically he's saying that ZvT is broken. You guys are reading waaayy to much into this. He could just be saying that he thinks he's the best player in the world (which a lot of people would agree with). If Flash said this no one would cry imbalance.
Agreed. He would say the same thing a year ago.
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Maybe Blizz fuckign change something in zvp wtf??? Zegr is good enought pls fix this imbalanced matchup listen to the pros like steph and drg like they say the match up is broken(indirectly the say this)
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Congrats to DRG.
Also, I don't think he said the patch was imba. It sounds like he is just expressing confidence that if he plays his best, he can beat anyone, whereas prior to this patch, he felt that if he played his best, he could still be beaten.
I suspect that other top players feel the same way, regardless of race: If they are 100% on top of their game, that no one can take them out, and in any game they lose, they can find some mistake they made that could have turned the game.
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On June 12 2012 07:45 Abturn wrote:
Maybe Blizz fuckign change something in zvp wtf??? Zegr is good enought pls fix this imbalanced matchup listen to the pros like steph and drg like they say the match up is broken(indirectly the say this)
DRG indirectly said ZvP was broken? Where?
He said he is confident in his ZvP skills, and that the new patch didn't change ZvP much. I am unsure where he said the matchup was broken.
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Drg favorite player hope he does great this GSL ROOTING FOR HIM!!!!!!
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congrats DRG. he really deserved the win played better than anyone else on the w/e
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OK, all you female SC2 fans need to step up big time and take a hit for the community, pick your fav Korean player and marry them so they will not have to join the army.
Thanks
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On June 12 2012 08:10 Trsjnica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 07:45 Abturn wrote:
Maybe Blizz fuckign change something in zvp wtf??? Zegr is good enought pls fix this imbalanced matchup listen to the pros like steph and drg like they say the match up is broken(indirectly the say this) DRG indirectly said ZvP was broken? Where? He said he is confident in his ZvP skills, and that the new patch didn't change ZvP much. I am unsure where he said the matchup was broken.
He's a 2-post troll. No need to respond. The match up is great.
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DRG already stated in one of his Code A interviews that he didn't think the patch was needed and now makes it too easy, it's not particularly a suprise that he still thinks the same way.
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