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TIME: Can eSports Finally Make it Big in America? - Page 3

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Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
June 08 2012 17:41 GMT
#41
On June 09 2012 02:10 Bedrock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On Jun 8 2012 13:01<span style='color:#d20000'> (8 min)</span> TheSir wrote:
"This weekend in Anaheim, Calif., Major League Gaming expects to break every viewing record they’ve ever set"

Not gonna happen, to much other stuff is happening this weekend. Interesting article though


Uninformative post.

Can you please elaborate further?



Horrible times for Europeans and AFAIK koreans don't make up a large segment of the usual MLG viewers (I'm guessing amongst others because we don't provide korean casting).
And ofcourse there's that American football thing and IIRC the European football championship starts sunday as well (could be wrong IDGAF about either football).


Maybe they'll set a attendance record but a stream viewer one won't happen, especially with how low quality MLG's free stream usually is.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
June 08 2012 17:42 GMT
#42
Very well written

Pretty sure writer is also an e-sports man

Way to go!
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 08 2012 17:43 GMT
#43
On June 09 2012 02:34 PlosionCornu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 02:18 Redox wrote:
On June 09 2012 02:14 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Nice article, very positive about eSports.

In all honesty, probably paid for by Blizzard.

Which would not be a bad thing, shows that they care.


Dunno much about foreign news outlets, but isn't TIME a bit too big to allow itself to get bought articles by "gaming" companies?


That doesnt really make sense if you read most of these news outlets
colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
June 08 2012 17:44 GMT
#44
On June 09 2012 02:41 Scootaloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 02:10 Bedrock wrote:
On Jun 8 2012 13:01<span style='color:#d20000'> (8 min)</span> TheSir wrote:
"This weekend in Anaheim, Calif., Major League Gaming expects to break every viewing record they’ve ever set"

Not gonna happen, to much other stuff is happening this weekend. Interesting article though


Uninformative post.

Can you please elaborate further?



Horrible times for Europeans and AFAIK koreans don't make up a large segment of the usual MLG viewers (I'm guessing amongst others because we don't provide korean casting).
And ofcourse there's that American football thing and IIRC the European football championship starts sunday as well (could be wrong IDGAF about either football).


Maybe they'll set a attendance record but a stream viewer one won't happen, especially with how low quality MLG's free stream usually is.


there's no american football thing that i can think of going on, and the euro football champ is on earlier than MLG will be for the most part
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Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
June 08 2012 17:48 GMT
#45
On June 09 2012 02:34 PlosionCornu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 02:18 Redox wrote:
On June 09 2012 02:14 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Nice article, very positive about eSports.

In all honesty, probably paid for by Blizzard.

Which would not be a bad thing, shows that they care.


Dunno much about foreign news outlets, but isn't TIME a bit too big to allow itself to get bought articles by "gaming" companies?


He doesn't know what he's talking about. It's in the Tech section of Time Magazine..it's not like it's on the front page of BBC news. What else would you expect them to report on? MLG Spring is pretty much the biggest gaming story going on right now with the WCS, MLG Spring Championships, HOTS Beta test, KESPA tourney, LoL, Halo, and whatever the fuck else is going on. If Time didn't do a report on this, then I'd really like to know how to get that job, because it sounds like you don't have to pay attention at all.

Article was awesome, though I laughed at where they equated Boxer's fame to Grubby's:

Then there’s the fame. Just like ABC knows it will get big ratings if stars like Kobe Bryant or Lebron James are playing, Major League Gaming knows viewership will go up if fan favorites like Korean player Lim Yo-Hwan (a.k.a. BoxeR) or Dutch-born Manuel Schenkhuizen (a.k.a. Grubby) are featured in key matches.

Read more: http://techland.time.com/2012/06/08/gaming-for-a-living-can-esports-finally-make-it-big-in-america/2/#ixzz1xDzw0Io9


No hate on Grubby, but come on.

Seriously though, great article, could have been loads worse. They really talked up MLG, Twitch, Day[9], everyone. For an article like that to come from an American website, I'm ecstatic.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
June 08 2012 17:50 GMT
#46
euro football is right this weekend, horrible timing for MLG...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
June 08 2012 17:55 GMT
#47
On June 09 2012 02:50 snailz wrote:
euro football is right this weekend, horrible timing for MLG...

Not only mlg. the next 4 weeks with other tournaments, too.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 08 2012 17:58 GMT
#48
Cool! Thanks for posting
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
June 08 2012 18:00 GMT
#49
I don't understand the great desire for esports to be broadcasted on cable. It already is being shown on TV in some countries. Big deal.

“I think that StarCraft is really the only game designed from the ground up to be an eSport,” says Mike Morhaime, CEO of Blizzard.
This is so arrogant. There are so many things being implied and history being ignored in this statement.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
June 08 2012 18:00 GMT
#50
On June 09 2012 02:44 colingrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 02:41 Scootaloo wrote:
On June 09 2012 02:10 Bedrock wrote:
On Jun 8 2012 13:01<span style='color:#d20000'> (8 min)</span> TheSir wrote:
"This weekend in Anaheim, Calif., Major League Gaming expects to break every viewing record they’ve ever set"

Not gonna happen, to much other stuff is happening this weekend. Interesting article though


Uninformative post.

Can you please elaborate further?



Horrible times for Europeans and AFAIK koreans don't make up a large segment of the usual MLG viewers (I'm guessing amongst others because we don't provide korean casting).
And ofcourse there's that American football thing and IIRC the European football championship starts sunday as well (could be wrong IDGAF about either football).


Maybe they'll set a attendance record but a stream viewer one won't happen, especially with how low quality MLG's free stream usually is.


there's no american football thing that i can think of going on, and the euro football champ is on earlier than MLG will be for the most part


A american poster on page 2 said sunday will be football all day for the states, and I don't know about you but when I've been drinking and watching football all day, be it american or european, I don't exactly feel like watching SC2 after that.
CygNus X-1
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada169 Posts
June 08 2012 18:02 GMT
#51
Personally, I dont like the fact that E sports or SC2 for that matter will be on live television. I liek the fact that its kinda a niche and only available online. Takes away from it I think. I dunno just my 2 cents.
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jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:08:13
June 08 2012 18:06 GMT
#52
On June 09 2012 03:00 Scootaloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 02:44 colingrad wrote:
On June 09 2012 02:41 Scootaloo wrote:
On June 09 2012 02:10 Bedrock wrote:
On Jun 8 2012 13:01<span style='color:#d20000'> (8 min)</span> TheSir wrote:
"This weekend in Anaheim, Calif., Major League Gaming expects to break every viewing record they’ve ever set"

Not gonna happen, to much other stuff is happening this weekend. Interesting article though


Uninformative post.

Can you please elaborate further?



Horrible times for Europeans and AFAIK koreans don't make up a large segment of the usual MLG viewers (I'm guessing amongst others because we don't provide korean casting).
And ofcourse there's that American football thing and IIRC the European football championship starts sunday as well (could be wrong IDGAF about either football).


Maybe they'll set a attendance record but a stream viewer one won't happen, especially with how low quality MLG's free stream usually is.


there's no american football thing that i can think of going on, and the euro football champ is on earlier than MLG will be for the most part


A american poster on page 2 said sunday will be football all day for the states, and I don't know about you but when I've been drinking and watching football all day, be it american or european, I don't exactly feel like watching SC2 after that.


That poster was making a general point about the NFL being on TV all day on Sundays during the regular season as a reason why it wouldn't be strange to have SC2 MLG on TV all day. The NFL is not in season right now.
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Zren89
Profile Joined February 2011
United States131 Posts
June 08 2012 18:17 GMT
#53
Read the whole article, it is totally worth it.

There are some great points in there about e-sports growtha ns some great Huk anecdotes! :D
you can't get mad at basketball cause you think kobe bryant is a horrible person. you don't see basketball forums with "kobe bryant is killing basketball!". it doesn't work like that, how the SC2 community made that connection is beyond me. ~Yoduh
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
June 08 2012 18:22 GMT
#54
SC2 definitely has some friends in higher places, it's great that MLG is getting some coverage outside of e-Sports focused providers.

Good article, looking forward to MLG later
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
June 08 2012 18:22 GMT
#55
Sundance sounds a bit overconfident in that piece... throwing a suit on husky and day9 and having anna or rachel emcee in their best outfit isn't going to make the casual viewer tune in and watch a whole series. I think SC should take a page out of the TV broadcast of tennis: the vast majority of people don't really care if random #100 in the world plays #90, they want to see Federer/Djokovic/Nadal/Sharapova/etc, the same is gonna have to be true of sc with the big names in TV and the preliminaries elsewhere.
canSore
Profile Joined November 2010
132 Posts
June 08 2012 18:25 GMT
#56
YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

and also,

:D :D :D :D!!!
bad with girls, good with zerg
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
June 08 2012 18:44 GMT
#57
I would absolutely love to watch Starcraft on my TV since my internet isn't fast enough to watch at higher definitions.

Unfortunately DirectTV has a habit of not having the channels I want, particularly gaming related (they recently removed G4). =(
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:46:13
June 08 2012 18:45 GMT
#58
if sc2 was designed as an esport from the ground up, they should've went for the F2P model.

Kinda hard to have esport/competitive game when there is a money barrier. See broodwar, CS, CS-clones, dota, LoL etc.
rEdEEmEd
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada68 Posts
June 08 2012 18:49 GMT
#59
It'S kind of contradictory that in America, you can be just a loser to be a progamer and in Korea, you're like a warfield hero.

I love it. I've always loved difference.
And, well….he’s Jaedong. And because he’s Jaedong, he is probably pretty damn sick of 2nd places. And because he’s Jaedong, and he’s sick of 2nd places, he might just hit SSJ (Super Sayain Jaedong) level 2 and kill everybody. -Artosis
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
June 08 2012 18:52 GMT
#60
On June 09 2012 03:45 iky43210 wrote:
if sc2 was designed as an esport from the ground up, they should've went for the F2P model.

Kinda hard to have esport/competitive game when there is a money barrier. See broodwar, CS, CS-clones, dota, LoL etc.

It would definitely have helped, but I think it's clear they weren't designing it *only* to be an esport. They need to earn a reasonable profit on the game, and the royalties they get from esports will not get them there. (If in the future it looks like they could be very substantial, I bet they'll switch it to F2P.) The only way to make money from a F2P game is to have in-game purchases. I don't know how that would have worked in a game like SC2. Maybe you buy extra campaign missions? Or portraits or something? It would have been very hard.

And it's not like nothing has succeeding in this way while costing money. BW was largely played in PC bangs, right? which charged something. Everyone has to pay for their first chess set or poker chips or baseball bat, yet those things seem to have gotten pretty big and competitive.
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