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This is not the place to argue whether or not spades hacked, do that in the relevant thread please.

(this is in effect page 10 onward)
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 06 2012 09:17 GMT
#621
On June 06 2012 18:14 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 17:29 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:21 Jinsho wrote:
^^^ The above is just people trying to distance themselves from the "mob mentality" because they automatically think themselves superiour. It doesn't matter what the topic, the issue, or the matter at hand is at all -- as long as they think the majority supports A, they are going to vehemently argue for B until they're out of breath.

maybe... you are the mob mentality....??

If we did this crap in the real world, three lacrosse players would be wrongfully in jail.

Lol nice try. First of all, there was real fallout from that. The coach had to resign and never got rehired. Second, that took months to figure out. If you want to show why all the evidence that has built up against spades is untrue, go right ahead. Spades could try to do that too. He never has outside of one REALLY halfhearted attempt.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying don't condemn people in one day.
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boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
June 06 2012 09:21 GMT
#622
On June 06 2012 18:17 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 18:14 boxman22 wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:29 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:21 Jinsho wrote:
^^^ The above is just people trying to distance themselves from the "mob mentality" because they automatically think themselves superiour. It doesn't matter what the topic, the issue, or the matter at hand is at all -- as long as they think the majority supports A, they are going to vehemently argue for B until they're out of breath.

maybe... you are the mob mentality....??

If we did this crap in the real world, three lacrosse players would be wrongfully in jail.

Lol nice try. First of all, there was real fallout from that. The coach had to resign and never got rehired. Second, that took months to figure out. If you want to show why all the evidence that has built up against spades is untrue, go right ahead. Spades could try to do that too. He never has outside of one REALLY halfhearted attempt.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying don't condemn people in one day.

Spades condemned himself in one day... he's the one who retired...
eNIKa
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland29 Posts
June 06 2012 09:21 GMT
#623
On June 06 2012 04:52 dragonborn wrote:
Edit: im not working for WW, stop sending me PM about spades T____T


just imagined all those angry pm's
hehehe ;D
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 09:22:59
June 06 2012 09:22 GMT
#624
On June 06 2012 17:37 StarBrift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 17:29 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:21 Jinsho wrote:
^^^ The above is just people trying to distance themselves from the "mob mentality" because they automatically think themselves superiour. It doesn't matter what the topic, the issue, or the matter at hand is at all -- as long as they think the majority supports A, they are going to vehemently argue for B until they're out of breath.

maybe... you are the mob mentality....??

I don't think I'm superior. What I do think is that trying to end someone's career after one day of looking at evidence is absolutely stupid.

If we did this crap in the real world, three lacrosse players would be wrongfully in jail.


He just ended his own career. No one has forced him into doing this. If he was truly innocent then he would be able to continue.


Welcome to your naive dreamland xDDD
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eNIKa
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland29 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 09:25:14
June 06 2012 09:24 GMT
#625
pls delete it, wrong thread
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 06 2012 09:25 GMT
#626
On June 06 2012 18:21 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 18:17 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 18:14 boxman22 wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:29 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:21 Jinsho wrote:
^^^ The above is just people trying to distance themselves from the "mob mentality" because they automatically think themselves superiour. It doesn't matter what the topic, the issue, or the matter at hand is at all -- as long as they think the majority supports A, they are going to vehemently argue for B until they're out of breath.

maybe... you are the mob mentality....??

If we did this crap in the real world, three lacrosse players would be wrongfully in jail.

Lol nice try. First of all, there was real fallout from that. The coach had to resign and never got rehired. Second, that took months to figure out. If you want to show why all the evidence that has built up against spades is untrue, go right ahead. Spades could try to do that too. He never has outside of one REALLY halfhearted attempt.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying don't condemn people in one day.

Spades condemned himself in one day... he's the one who retired...

Actually if you read the post you'd see that he just stepped down from the team and is still playing.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 09:30:01
June 06 2012 09:29 GMT
#627
On June 06 2012 18:25 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 18:21 boxman22 wrote:
On June 06 2012 18:17 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 18:14 boxman22 wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:29 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:21 Jinsho wrote:
^^^ The above is just people trying to distance themselves from the "mob mentality" because they automatically think themselves superiour. It doesn't matter what the topic, the issue, or the matter at hand is at all -- as long as they think the majority supports A, they are going to vehemently argue for B until they're out of breath.

maybe... you are the mob mentality....??

If we did this crap in the real world, three lacrosse players would be wrongfully in jail.

Lol nice try. First of all, there was real fallout from that. The coach had to resign and never got rehired. Second, that took months to figure out. If you want to show why all the evidence that has built up against spades is untrue, go right ahead. Spades could try to do that too. He never has outside of one REALLY halfhearted attempt.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying don't condemn people in one day.

Spades condemned himself in one day... he's the one who retired...

Actually if you read the post you'd see that he just stepped down from the team and is still playing.

Sorry from "retire from the team" and "unlikely to be invited to major tournaments and showmatches" I thought he meant retiring for good. I'm still not entirely sure how you are so certain he's still playing.
BananaJunkie
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark119 Posts
June 06 2012 09:30 GMT
#628
On June 06 2012 04:58 surfacegnome wrote:
If he was innocent I don't think he would have left his team.

Just my thought!
Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 06 2012 09:34 GMT
#629
On June 06 2012 18:29 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 18:25 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 18:21 boxman22 wrote:
On June 06 2012 18:17 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 18:14 boxman22 wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:29 Femari wrote:
On June 06 2012 17:21 Jinsho wrote:
^^^ The above is just people trying to distance themselves from the "mob mentality" because they automatically think themselves superiour. It doesn't matter what the topic, the issue, or the matter at hand is at all -- as long as they think the majority supports A, they are going to vehemently argue for B until they're out of breath.

maybe... you are the mob mentality....??

If we did this crap in the real world, three lacrosse players would be wrongfully in jail.

Lol nice try. First of all, there was real fallout from that. The coach had to resign and never got rehired. Second, that took months to figure out. If you want to show why all the evidence that has built up against spades is untrue, go right ahead. Spades could try to do that too. He never has outside of one REALLY halfhearted attempt.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying don't condemn people in one day.

Spades condemned himself in one day... he's the one who retired...

Actually if you read the post you'd see that he just stepped down from the team and is still playing.

Sorry from "retire from the team" and "unlikely to be invited to major tournaments and showmatches" I thought he meant retiring for good. I'm still not entirely sure how you are so certain he's still playing.

He said this in the other thread:
I haven't retired. I just left my team, to avoid public backlash upon Western Wolves.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
June 06 2012 09:50 GMT
#630
So much drama over a player that would never get anywhere in the sc2 scene even with hacks...
Its not even that people got so riled up and angry because they feared for the scenes 'integrity'
This fucked up, redditized community just enjoys fucking with peoples lives at this point. Pathetic scum.
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Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
June 06 2012 09:55 GMT
#631
On June 06 2012 04:57 OzkanTheFlip wrote:
Spades, no1 wants you quit, worst case scenario is you made a mistake and hopefully admit to it and grow some balls your still going to do well.


Don't speak for people. I want him to quit. If it's somehow true that he didn't hack, it would be a tragedy. But this has gotten to a stage of beyond reasonable doubt, he's guilty.
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 10:00:33
June 06 2012 09:58 GMT
#632
If he was really innocent, I would think that clearing his name would be a lot easier than he makes it sound to be.

If he really is guilty, he should just man up and admit it instead of pussyfooting around, at least end your career with some dignity imo.
Skol
Fleuria
Profile Joined April 2011
England466 Posts
June 06 2012 09:59 GMT
#633
fact he is quitting kinda admits he cheated...
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 06 2012 10:08 GMT
#634
On June 06 2012 04:52 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
Statement from Brian "Spades" Francis:

I won't discus the accusations themselves here, this is not the place or time.

Regardless of whether I'm found “innocent” or “guilty” in the public eye, my reputation as a pro gamer is damaged severely. It's unlikely that I'll receive invites to major tournaments or showmatches as long as this matter is unresolved and I don't see any way for this to be resolved. I feel that staying with the Western Wolves would put the team in a negative light, especially considering how well the team has treated me, I would hate to negatively represent the WW team.

It's been a short stay, but one I thoroughly enjoyed. It's been great to have the opportunity to play for the WW team and I regret it coming to an end the way it is.


source: http://westernwolves.com/content/News/Spades_retires_from_Western_Wolves-263.html

Edit: im not working for WW, stop sending me PM about spades T____T


I'm pretty sure there are many hard evidences proving he is guilty..
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Zenislev
Profile Joined January 2009
United States280 Posts
June 06 2012 10:10 GMT
#635
Why is everyone saying Spades leaving WW is evidence of his guilt?? I probably would have made the same choice in his position even if totally innocent. No reason to make your team go down with you if it's clear you're doomed regardless of your innocence.
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Sadform
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom79 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 10:14:28
June 06 2012 10:13 GMT
#636
On June 06 2012 19:10 Zenislev wrote:
Why is everyone saying Spades leaving WW is evidence of his guilt?? I probably would have made the same choice in his position even if totally innocent. No reason to make your team go down with you if it's clear you're doomed regardless of your innocence.


This. All this is is a massively over-exaggerated witch hunt. It's quite depressing to read, but that's what you get when you see mass nerd rage on a internet forum. No-one can prove anything, every argument against him, there is a decent argument for him.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
June 06 2012 10:17 GMT
#637
I guess this is the right thing to do for Spades, he's doing the best he can to put his team in no blame, leaving it as peacefully as possible.

GOOD LUCK SPADES T_T.
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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
June 06 2012 10:22 GMT
#638
went through Cat'z tortorously long and head ache inducing proofs against Spades, it's clear that Spades hack, like a politician, he retires.

True scumbag
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
June 06 2012 10:44 GMT
#639
On June 06 2012 19:22 MildSeven wrote:
went through Cat'z tortorously long and head ache inducing proofs against Spades, it's clear that Spades hack, like a politician, he retires.

True scumbag

I dont get it, should he have not retired?
The_Dark
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 10:58:14
June 06 2012 10:57 GMT
#640
From Spades to Clubbed , I dont know if this can be 3rd time lucky for the career , think its been straight flushed down the toilet now.
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