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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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Theres no real money AH in Sc2 so they don't really tryhard 
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On June 12 2012 01:09 nkr wrote:
There is a certain individual in the top20 GM of europe who is 99% surely a hacker. Never scouts, or places out his overlords for map awareness. Makes 15 hatch 49 games in a row, but in the 50th game when he faces a 10pool he opts for a 14 pool no gas, and just sits in his base waiting without trying to exp at 16(before he sees the 10pool). The replays I've watched he seems to have a camera lock in many situations and his apm drops to 0.
I won't out his name for the miniscule chance that he is innocent, but rather voice my concern and that blizzard really needs to fix this.
PM me the name and few replays, i'll look into it.
On June 12 2012 04:27 MantiZzl wrote:
I know this thread is about gm players hacking but don´t u guys think it is worse for the lower leagues?
GM players obvoiously know how to play and therefor are more likely to recognize when they meet a hacker.
I think thats way more easy to deal with than beeing in a lower league and just assume u got cheated on.
How am i suppose to improve myself if i´m not even sure my opponent just cheated?
So annoying, i hope blizzard comes up with a good solution (let hackers pay a penalty if they are cought XD).
Yes, it is worse in the lower league as there are more hackers. The thing is that those people are not my main concern as they will not win any tournaments, join teams, nor ruin the possibility of other great players to get visibility.
On June 12 2012 02:24 HeeroFX wrote:
Blizzard usually bans in giant waves. So I would imagine at the end of every season they will ban a ton of hackers. Everytime you report someone for hacking, I am sure it goes to blizzard. If enough people report it they will do something.
Blizzard banned some GM hackers in a couple days matter after they were exposed. I think Blizz might be enclined to ban faster (atleast for top ranked people) if we provide enough evidence.
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On June 12 2012 05:23 babysimba wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/la/281892/LATcaNNonhttp://drop.sc/195591I don't have definite proof, maybe someone more experienced could check it for me. Almost no scouting, never care whether i go mutas or not. Move army into main to counter doom drop twice without seeing overlords. Split tanks and hellions when my roaches were about to attack his gold. Siege up at the very last second when he was at my third. No pre-scouting with hellions or scans when he move his entire tank army. Started thor and turret production when my mutas pop.
Wasn't LATcruZer or something seen chatting on stream with impa about maphacking? I've played him a bunch of times, he's always been kinda suspicious but at the time it was before maphacking was very well known so I didn't save the replays or anything. But given that LATcruzer's profile disappeared, it wouldn't be a crazy assumption that he namechanged to LATCannon? I can't find any replays of LATcruzer on drop.sc though, so any sort of proof might be hard to find 
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On June 12 2012 08:08 RemarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 05:23 babysimba wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/la/281892/LATcaNNonhttp://drop.sc/195591I don't have definite proof, maybe someone more experienced could check it for me. Almost no scouting, never care whether i go mutas or not. Move army into main to counter doom drop twice without seeing overlords. Split tanks and hellions when my roaches were about to attack his gold. Siege up at the very last second when he was at my third. No pre-scouting with hellions or scans when he move his entire tank army. Started thor and turret production when my mutas pop. Wasn't LATcruZer or something seen chatting on stream with impa about maphacking? I've played him a bunch of times, he's always been kinda suspicious but at the time it was before maphacking was very well known so I didn't save the replays or anything. But given that LATcruzer's profile disappeared, it wouldn't be a crazy assumption that he namechanged to LATCannon? I can't find any replays of LATcruzer on drop.sc though, so any sort of proof might be hard to find
He's too low master for me to check it out, sorry If anything, report him in game and via e-mail at hacks@blizzard.com
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On June 12 2012 07:38 ZweiGaming wrote:
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Blizzard banned some GM hackers in a couple days matter after they were exposed. I think Blizz might be enclined to ban faster (atleast for top ranked people) if we provide enough evidence.
Blizzard must get so many bad reports of hacking through their own system that any real offenses are lost in all the noise. I bet once they find someone in this thread, they do their own homework and then ban once they are sure there is cheating.
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On June 12 2012 08:19 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 07:38 ZweiGaming wrote:
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Blizzard banned some GM hackers in a couple days matter after they were exposed. I think Blizz might be enclined to ban faster (atleast for top ranked people) if we provide enough evidence. Blizzard must get so many bad reports of hacking through their own system that any real offenses are lost in all the noise. I bet once they find someone in this thread, they do their own homework and then ban once they are sure there is cheating.
Impa got banned in a 24 hours matter after this thread plus the full report that was made on battle.net forum. Tonight, i'll be writing something similar for all the hackers found up to now and hopefully, they will be banned during the period where players try to get GM (tomorrow till next tuesday).
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On June 11 2012 11:40 ZweiGaming wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This maphacker is one of the top 100 GM on NA. His maphacking isn't as obvious as the previous ones posted. His account name is : NMxJValjeanhttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1226473/1/NMxJValjean/The youtube video will clarify what is weird weird about the replays: Please let me know what you think of this one.
such a sick find, nice job!
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Just played low masters player on ladder, and I'm pretty damn sure he map hacked. He scouted me cross on Antiga (with no reason to assume that) move probe in order to not be seen, even though again he had no clue, place a pylon (in order to cannon, with no vision my hatch was even being built there) Had Stalker que'd up directly under my overlord in his natural. Put down extra cannons a few seconds after I drop banelings nest with no map vision and nto even sure I was getting a third. Besides those things I wouldn't guess he did. What do you guys think?
http://drop.sc/195686 I'm Ideals.
http://sc2ranks.com/us/1079444/ParadoX
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As this is the end of the season, here’s a compilation of hackers being in GM/top masters that are still active. Hopefully, they will be banned before the GM is unlocked in a week, as it would ruin the competitive side of a new season once again.
I would like you guys to bump and add evidence in this battle net topic as I requested for Impa:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5760197115?page=1#4
EDIT: will be adding the other maphackers to this thread shortly (those I exposed on battle net thread but not in here)
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On June 12 2012 05:23 babysimba wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/la/281892/LATcaNNonhttp://drop.sc/195591I don't have definite proof, maybe someone more experienced could check it for me. Almost no scouting, never care whether i go mutas or not. Move army into main to counter doom drop twice without seeing overlords. Split tanks and hellions when my roaches were about to attack his gold. Siege up at the very last second when he was at my third. No pre-scouting with hellions or scans when he move his entire tank army. Started thor and turret production when my mutas pop.
I think you're right, this guy is 1000+ masters too. Higher than that ReDz guy. Hes pretty good at pretending he doesn't have hacks but he slips up at 21:18 where he looks into the fog for no reason where the roaches are, and then moves into his main expecting a drop. Then 10 seconds later when retaking his third, he looks at the bottom third, sees its blocked by a burrowed unit, and flies the CC to the gold instead.
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On June 12 2012 05:23 babysimba wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/la/281892/LATcaNNonhttp://drop.sc/195591I don't have definite proof, maybe someone more experienced could check it for me. Almost no scouting, never care whether i go mutas or not. Move army into main to counter doom drop twice without seeing overlords. Split tanks and hellions when my roaches were about to attack his gold. Siege up at the very last second when he was at my third. No pre-scouting with hellions or scans when he move his entire tank army. Started thor and turret production when my mutas pop.
Some things made me think he wasn't hacking, like not reacting before hand to the roach attack early on, only getting a bunker up when it was scouted etc etc.
Saying that, the two huge army repositions each time there was a doom drop is EXTREMELY suspect. I wouldn't say it's enough to call it a 100% map hack but it would be worth trying to get a hold of some more replays to investigate.
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the maphack is getting out of hand. im not in a high league, but there are so many people im playing that are using it. going back and watching replays of people looking randomly in the fog of war, apm spikes to 300, 400. ugh.
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On June 12 2012 12:51 a176 wrote:
the maphack is getting out of hand. im not in a high league, but there are so many people im playing that are using it. going back and watching replays of people looking randomly in the fog of war, apm spikes to 300, 400. ugh.
At lower levels we just need to play through it for now and hope to win.
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On June 12 2012 12:51 a176 wrote:
the maphack is getting out of hand. im not in a high league, but there are so many people im playing that are using it. going back and watching replays of people looking randomly in the fog of war, apm spikes to 300, 400. ugh.
APM spikes aren't necessarily indicative of hacking. I'm a lower level player (I don't practice much) and I average about 80 apm, but when I watch my own replays, I notice it can spike to 250-300 pretty consistently when a lot of stuff is going on. Higher if I'm messing around with Zerg.
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Alright, I have another hacker for you guys: Hysteria, he was a 1k pt masters Zerg last season.
http://drop.sc/196075
4:something he camera locks right when council goes down.
5:20 evo goes down at the same time my DT shrine goes down.
5:30 a-moves next to my probe through FoW.
7:28 (slow down for this one) clicks lings at my dts before they're in vision of his spore.
He never takes towers with speed opening (wtf) and never bothers to scout my natural. Then he doesn't bother to scout third, and starts to build only units. Also does not attack with mutas which makes no sense if I'm not allinning.
Multiple camera locks through out.
;D then we had a nice chat after I accused him of hacking. He blocked me then said this:
+ Show Spoiler +Hysteria: im done discussing
with someone
who is this retarded
I outplayed you
in every aspect
of the game
if you think I hacked go make a thread about it
You're too bad to understand good game sense
and a higher level play then your own
hf being one of those crying protoss
typical, you play the easy race then whine hacks when you get outplaye
dit's sad on so many levels
hf sucking at the game foreve
pathetic little noob.
pathetic little noob.
pathetic little noob.
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Here's another high masters MMR maphacker for everyone: FnaticTRiCKY
http://drop.sc/196351
Proxy gate in my natural on 4 player map with 0 scouting, constant awareness of my units such as hidden probe in his main, prepares for warp prism EXACTLY when it's about to hit with no obs.
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On June 12 2012 14:04 iamahydralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 12:51 a176 wrote:
the maphack is getting out of hand. im not in a high league, but there are so many people im playing that are using it. going back and watching replays of people looking randomly in the fog of war, apm spikes to 300, 400. ugh. APM spikes aren't necessarily indicative of hacking. I'm a lower level player (I don't practice much) and I average about 80 apm, but when I watch my own replays, I notice it can spike to 250-300 pretty consistently when a lot of stuff is going on. Higher if I'm messing around with Zerg.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've seen my own replays where my APM spikes to around 600 just from making banelings.
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Sent a PM as well but posting here for public exposure/discussion.
http://drop.sc/196640
There are a few notable circumstantial pieces of evidence such as his marine movement at 5:46 and 6:46 which happen to be exactly where my scouting overlords are heading. In addition, he never scouts my base until he moves into my base with banshees.
The more important part though is at 5:48 when he moves his marines to my first scouting overlord. His view is locked at the edge of the fog of war so he had to be using the minimap for his attack moves. I believe this is impossible, however, due to the fact that his attack move locations are so close together that is not possible to attain this accuracy on the minimap.
Edit for League: Top 25 Masters currently.
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Swoozy's sc2ranks
Watching iNcontroL's stream, went up against this guy. Claimed he was a known cheater/hacker and watching the game, it's kinda odd as all hell. Anyone have any replays from this guy they can post for examination?
There's a few old ones posted in a thread and closed by Ares, but with the seeming acceptance of this thread I was curious if anyone has any of him more recent than April. He's currently just outside the top 100 NA GM.
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On June 12 2012 11:02 Speece wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 05:23 babysimba wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/la/281892/LATcaNNonhttp://drop.sc/195591I don't have definite proof, maybe someone more experienced could check it for me. Almost no scouting, never care whether i go mutas or not. Move army into main to counter doom drop twice without seeing overlords. Split tanks and hellions when my roaches were about to attack his gold. Siege up at the very last second when he was at my third. No pre-scouting with hellions or scans when he move his entire tank army. Started thor and turret production when my mutas pop. I think you're right, this guy is 1000+ masters too. Higher than that ReDz guy. Hes pretty good at pretending he doesn't have hacks but he slips up at 21:18 where he looks into the fog for no reason where the roaches are, and then moves into his main expecting a drop. Then 10 seconds later when retaking his third, he looks at the bottom third, sees its blocked by a burrowed unit, and flies the CC to the gold instead.
He didn't even try to cover it up in this 2v2
http://drop.sc/196653
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