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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
ElxGuapo
Profile Joined April 2012
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 12:39:52
June 13 2012 11:40 GMT
#1161
Protoss
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 12:12:20
June 13 2012 12:10 GMT
#1162
Edit: derp wrong thread.

On topic, I really think it's awesome what you're doing, and if you need any more replays of Venusaur just send me a PM.
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Chakoi
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom81 Posts
June 13 2012 12:17 GMT
#1163
Wow the amount is increasing DRASTICALLY ... oh my sc II Y_Y
The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires
lusse
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden22 Posts
June 13 2012 14:02 GMT
#1164
this is sick.... I had NO clue that so many were maphacking. What a sad sad day Has Blizzard said ANYTHING at all regarding this issue?
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Bakkendepao
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands185 Posts
June 13 2012 14:35 GMT
#1165
Does anyone still need a replay of ReDz? I have a ZvZ where he didnt even spread OV's and made blind spinecrawlers as I walked in, also looking through the FoW
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MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
June 13 2012 14:37 GMT
#1166
On June 13 2012 23:02 lusse wrote:
this is sick.... I had NO clue that so many were maphacking. What a sad sad day Has Blizzard said ANYTHING at all regarding this issue?


Yes, they posted an article where they demoted a hacker to bronze.
Also watch TL interview w/ Dustin Browder, this is discussed.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 13 2012 16:07 GMT
#1167
This is really upsetting to see these videos. I've come into contact with people I've certainly thought were hacking and there's a lot of it in 2v2 as well.
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 13 2012 16:08 GMT
#1168
On June 13 2012 23:37 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 23:02 lusse wrote:
this is sick.... I had NO clue that so many were maphacking. What a sad sad day Has Blizzard said ANYTHING at all regarding this issue?


Yes, they posted an article where they demoted a hacker to bronze.
Also watch TL interview w/ Dustin Browder, this is discussed.


I'm going to check this out right now. I really hope this is addressed by banning accounts and not just demoting a person. Maybe even more extreme measures since if these people hack, they may be able to hack to get multiple accounts free anyway
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
June 13 2012 18:22 GMT
#1169
On June 14 2012 01:08 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 23:37 MrCash wrote:
On June 13 2012 23:02 lusse wrote:
this is sick.... I had NO clue that so many were maphacking. What a sad sad day Has Blizzard said ANYTHING at all regarding this issue?


Yes, they posted an article where they demoted a hacker to bronze.
Also watch TL interview w/ Dustin Browder, this is discussed.


I'm going to check this out right now. I really hope this is addressed by banning accounts and not just demoting a person. Maybe even more extreme measures since if these people hack, they may be able to hack to get multiple accounts free anyway


In the interview he says its an ongoing back and forth between the hackers and blizzard. Nothing in particular is said, he doesn't want to let the hackers know what it is he is doing or working on etc etc.
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Noumena
Profile Joined June 2010
United States85 Posts
June 13 2012 21:43 GMT
#1170
Another replay of FnaticTRiCKy - http://drop.sc/197282

Pretty sure this is obvious MH. He tried to convince me that I was "an idiot" and it was a calculated move, that if I wasnt there he still could have won. From his matchhistory he has been cannon rushing everyone and 2 gating.

Basically he 2gates outside of my main base at my natural on Entombed Valley, doesn't scout.
twitch.tv/NoumenaSC
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 22:37:47
June 13 2012 22:30 GMT
#1171
On June 13 2012 20:40 ElxGuapo wrote:

My brother was playing masters 1v1 faced a rank 1 map hacker that was 15-0 at the time he 2 gate proxys on a 4 player map without scouting watch his player cam the way he moves seems like a program of some kind its not double clicking a unit or area it moves across the map.



http://drop.sc/players/US/2103543/KoNtiNuE


I've had few reports about tricky, i'll look more into it thanks!

On June 13 2012 23:35 Bakkendepao wrote:
Does anyone still need a replay of ReDz? I have a ZvZ where he didnt even spread OV's and made blind spinecrawlers as I walked in, also looking through the FoW


Please add your evidence in here: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5760197115?page=2

On June 14 2012 01:08 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 23:37 MrCash wrote:
On June 13 2012 23:02 lusse wrote:
this is sick.... I had NO clue that so many were maphacking. What a sad sad day Has Blizzard said ANYTHING at all regarding this issue?


Yes, they posted an article where they demoted a hacker to bronze.
Also watch TL interview w/ Dustin Browder, this is discussed.


I'm going to check this out right now. I really hope this is addressed by banning accounts and not just demoting a person. Maybe even more extreme measures since if these people hack, they may be able to hack to get multiple accounts free anyway


The demotion is only made in order to free a GM spot for real players, the account is banned as well (or temp banned if it's first offense I believe).
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#1172
On June 14 2012 03:22 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 01:08 zmansman17 wrote:
On June 13 2012 23:37 MrCash wrote:
On June 13 2012 23:02 lusse wrote:
this is sick.... I had NO clue that so many were maphacking. What a sad sad day Has Blizzard said ANYTHING at all regarding this issue?


Yes, they posted an article where they demoted a hacker to bronze.
Also watch TL interview w/ Dustin Browder, this is discussed.


I'm going to check this out right now. I really hope this is addressed by banning accounts and not just demoting a person. Maybe even more extreme measures since if these people hack, they may be able to hack to get multiple accounts free anyway


In the interview he says its an ongoing back and forth between the hackers and blizzard. Nothing in particular is said, he doesn't want to let the hackers know what it is he is doing or working on etc etc.


Also, the more attention is drawn to the issue, the more people become aware of the hacks. Blizzard wants to address the issue in a meaningful way, rather than do a patch job and miss some hacks or hackers. Personally, I think a reporting system that was outside of battle.net and let you upload replay files would be a good way to allow people to report more effectively. Right now, I am sure their reporting system is filled with spam or false reports.
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itsme
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada46 Posts
June 14 2012 00:01 GMT
#1173
http://drop.sc/197329

hi im mid-high masters and i encountered another maphacker. this one was pretty obvious because he didnt scout my base early game and did a 4 gate, and when i popped down 5 spines and a bunch of lings, which he also didnt see, he put down a nexus without engaging. there were also parts such as him taking a handful of stalkers and attacking my hidden expansions that he also didnt scout, and going out with his army but quickly comes back to his natural without scouting my army at the xelnaga waiting for him. I still won which was the saddest part.
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Chakoi
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 00:28:17
June 14 2012 00:27 GMT
#1174
There was a interview with dustin I think yea..

They said they were focusing and are aware of this type of thing and they update their anti hack etc... as much as they can and just manually ban them..

They can't do much unless they find a more suitable method apparently...

I seen CatZ play against a map hacker today... They're everywhere now, seriously.
The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires
AiurOG
Profile Joined March 2011
United States98 Posts
June 14 2012 00:43 GMT
#1175
Why doesn't blizzard implement a VAC-style anti-cheat system? Relegating all offending players to non-ladder games only?
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 02:21:17
June 14 2012 01:02 GMT
#1176
another mh I think: blind proxy 4 player map

http://drop.sc/197381

Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
June 14 2012 01:14 GMT
#1177
On June 14 2012 09:43 AiurOG wrote:
Why doesn't blizzard implement a VAC-style anti-cheat system? Relegating all offending players to non-ladder games only?


They just ban them. Why let them play anymore at all?
Noispaxen
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland150 Posts
June 14 2012 01:25 GMT
#1178
I haven't really seen cases from KR/TW server, but I don't even know how to report this guy on battle.net cause I can't read chinese

http://drop.sc/197386
Here is the replay of a guy I played today - Sclass, I am 100% sure he map hacked, he didn't even try hiding it.

First of all sending his scouting SCV right away to the correct position, then dropping hellions in the slight shadow I had around my base, moving his units to the position where I was going to harass with mutas and finally the most obvious one at ~19:30 (look at his camera movement) when I do ling run by and he backs his units and closes depos without seeing them at all.
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SCPlato
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States249 Posts
June 14 2012 01:27 GMT
#1179
whysomad is maphacking. Not sure if this is appropriate place to put this. but here is replay of it. Completely obvious in my opinion that he is maphacking.

http://drop.sc/197392
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Lezt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 02:07:52
June 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#1180
On June 14 2012 10:27 SCPlato wrote:
whysomad is maphacking. Not sure if this is appropriate place to put this. but here is replay of it. Completely obvious in my opinion that he is maphacking.

http://drop.sc/197392

here are the most blatant moves that I saw:
rallies the first reaper right in front of nat, most likely trying to catch the scout probe, changes rally once it goes to the tower instead ~ 3:40
sends first reaper to opponent base w/o scouting
afk's the reaper for a little bit and then once stalker is out he just backs off entirely still with no scouting ~4:45
couple small looks at where the stalker is and then looks at toss base for a couple seconds starting at 4:56
base look 5:23
5:27, he moves the reaper past the tower toward the probe as it is fleeing and then perfectly intercepts it at the 5'o clock main
brief look at edge of main and nat where probe is leaving - 7:02
at 7:23 he looks at a probe approaching his third and follows it with the camera and kills it
at 8:03 he looks at an obs approaching his main
at 8:48 he looks at the main and nat
at 9:40 he looks at nat and part of the main again, as an obs is coming out
9:52 more looks at nat and main
10:11 he blocks the third with a factory without scouting position still (antiga was the map)
10:23 more looks at the main
cancels ghost academy and starts second starport around 10:30 as robo bay goes up
11:14 more looks at main
at 11:26 he pans over to his reaper on the tower and watches an obs go by
11:45 looks at main briefly before dropping it
13:18 looks at nat as toss army is leaving
13:36 looks at main some more
13:48 he moves out vikings to intercept a rallied collossus
there were a lot of other highly suspicious moves, but I don't feel that documenting anything more is needed at this point
edit: this is high masters
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