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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Kaitokid
Germany1327 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On June 12 2012 01:26 Kaitokid wrote: I think I know who he means. There is a player consistenly in top 16/20 EU GM this season who suddenly became a contender for the top GM spots since this season, its seems rather strange. I also checked his matchhistory and indeed, never a BO loss.. if anyone has an EU account and checks GM out+ a couple of matchhistories he will know who we are talking about. Well, I hope you at least bring this person's name to the attention of the creator of this thread, and maybe try to find replays backing up what you are describing, and other evidence to make it easier on him to go through the evidence. Because if all you're going to do is say that someone in top 16/20 hacks and stop there, then you're really being quite useless and kind of creates even more paranoia than having a specific name. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On June 11 2012 13:00 IOvEggY wrote: I had a a feeling NMx were hackers... You think everyone hacks...you accused me of hacking after failing a terrible baneling all-in. | ||
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iamahydralisk
United States813 Posts
On June 12 2012 01:32 EtherealDeath wrote: Well, I hope you at least bring this person's name to the attention of the creator of this thread, and maybe try to find replays backing up what you are describing, and other evidence to make it easier on him to go through the evidence. Because if all you're going to do is say that someone in top 16/20 hacks and stop there, then you're really being quite useless and kind of creates even more paranoia than having a specific name. pretty much this. even if you think this player's identity is obvious, still post it so we can get on it faster and expose them if they ARE cheating. by being super vague about it, you're almost protecting the player in some way, and I don't think any of us want to protect hackers. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On June 12 2012 01:37 nkr wrote: You're only here for the juicy drama. If you start throwing peoples names around in public whenever they are suspected of cheating, you will end up ruining the names of innocent people. Until we have 3rd party antihack software, or blizzard bans them, I think it's better not to. That's why I said PM it to the guy who made this thread. I think he's proven himself to be pretty reasonable in his investigations before releasing any names. Seriously if you have enough evidence to see never having a BO loss ever, that alone raises many flags. So just PM the guy who made this thread. No one said you have to drag the guy's name in public. edit - I don't know what other evidence you have and how thoroughly you've thought through it, but if you really feel suspicious enough about a guy to have looked at as many games as you've implied, and come out thinking he is a maphacker, and even posting on TL that someone in top 20 gm EU is a maphacker, you should pm their name to the OP. | ||
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Names
Canada328 Posts
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iamahydralisk
United States813 Posts
On June 12 2012 01:37 nkr wrote: You're only here for the juicy drama. If you start throwing peoples names around in public whenever they are suspected of cheating, you will end up ruining the names of innocent people. Until we have 3rd party antihack software, or blizzard bans them, I think it's better not to. while I agree that PMing the OP would be a better idea, it has nothing to do with wanting "juicy drama," and everything to do with wanting to get hackers (especially top GM hackers with the potential to ruin online events) exposed as quickly as possible. plus, if the evidence is as incontrovertible as you act, then posting the name shouldn't be an issue. either way, simply saying "I know of a top GM player who maphacks but I'm not going to tell anyone" doesn't really help anyone. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13379 Posts
On June 12 2012 01:50 iamahydralisk wrote: while I agree that PMing the OP would be a better idea, it has nothing to do with wanting "juicy drama," and everything to do with wanting to get hackers (especially top GM hackers with the potential to ruin online events) exposed as quickly as possible. plus, if the evidence is as incontrovertible as you act, then posting the name shouldn't be an issue. either way, simply saying "I know of a top GM player who maphacks but I'm not going to tell anyone" doesn't really help anyone. I think its extremely important to figure it out quick as well, I mean especially since the TSL4 EU qualifiers are coming up soon and they are all played online. We need to keep the integrity of the TSL in tact. Not to the point of a witch hunt but before everyone gets invited we need to do it. If its figured out early enough people can be given another chance if they lose to a hacker for example. The TSL has always been good at having integrity so I only hope we can keep this up. | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On June 11 2012 22:44 Doodsmack wrote: Not really, accusations of hacking without proper evidence is a legitimate issue to be called out. If you knew about the magic scan "evidence" in the Spades replays then you would know that seemingly simple/obvious aspects of gameplay can be proven wrong. But the evidence provided is 100% proof. They didn't do the best job of explaining exactly what was going on but it was all there and the conclusion that was drawn was absolutely right. Placing the shadow of the Nexus there is impossible in a legit game. If you see creep somewhere, whether it has actually receded or not, you can't issue a build command on that location. It's common knowledge to anyone who plays and I just tested it myself to confirm it for certain. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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jj33
802 Posts
hackers are scum. I didn't even know there was a blink micro hack till I read this thread. Can you possibly get even more pathetic? Why bother even playing the game then, just have some ai automation play for you. Then some hackers accuse a person beating them of hacking, wow talk about the lowest of the low. | ||
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StarcraftWonders
United States59 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:40 ZweiGaming wrote: This maphacker is one of the top 100 GM on NA. His maphacking isn't as obvious as the previous ones posted. His account name is : NMxJValjean http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1226473/1/NMxJValjean/ The youtube video will clarify what is weird weird about the replays: Please let me know what you think of this one. 100% Map Hacks. Crazy find. Good job guys! | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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Wolvmatt.
205 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:44 Heraklitus wrote: Nicely done. This is such bullshit. . . I just don't understand the maphack mentality. They really need to "win" that badly? It doesn't even matter. . . If if doesn't even matter, why are you getting so mad? | ||
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MantiZzl
Germany52 Posts
GM players obvoiously know how to play and therefor are more likely to recognize when they meet a hacker. I think thats way more easy to deal with than beeing in a lower league and just assume u got cheated on. How am i suppose to improve myself if i´m not even sure my opponent just cheated? So annoying, i hope blizzard comes up with a good solution (let hackers pay a penalty if they are cought XD). | ||
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-FoX
United States479 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6317359/Cheating_in_Diablo®_III-6_11_2012 It's interesting how Blizzard posted that yet maphacking is still incredibly prominent in Starcraft 2. | ||
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Shin_Gouki
United States313 Posts
On June 12 2012 02:58 jj33 wrote: been playing sc since bw and had to deal with hackers then and hackers in wc3 and now hackers in sc2. hackers are scum. I didn't even know there was a blink micro hack till I read this thread. Can you possibly get even more pathetic? Why bother even playing the game then, just have some ai automation play for you. Then some hackers accuse a person beating them of hacking, wow talk about the lowest of the low. Sad part is, we don't have any plug-ins like chaos launcher yet to potentially deal with this. I hope blizz acts swiftly on this matter T.T | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
http://drop.sc/195591 I don't have definite proof, maybe someone more experienced could check it for me. Almost no scouting, never care whether i go mutas or not. Move army into main to counter doom drop twice without seeing overlords. Split tanks and hellions when my roaches were about to attack his gold. Siege up at the very last second when he was at my third. No pre-scouting with hellions or scans when he move his entire tank army. Started thor and turret production when my mutas pop. | ||
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