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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 02 2014 00:53 GMT
#8261
On September 02 2014 09:27 SmileySC2 wrote:
Now the hacker tries to explain his reason, DUDE its blind counter, you should get banned!
And maphack can be hidden on stream.

Really if you had played him before and did 2rax more than once... It would be in his best interest to blind counter. If I went 7roach rush every game and you played me more than once before would you not open blind marauder first?

Someone post replays of your previous games, if any.
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Reapercile
Profile Joined December 2013
United States4 Posts
September 02 2014 20:29 GMT
#8262
JackRallY
North America
Platinum
I do a proxy 2 gate on a cross spawn map (Deadwing), he decided to throw down a second gateway blind when I show my proxy two gate, and proceeds to save chronoboost for zealots, all before I show my units.
http://drop.sc/385624
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
September 02 2014 23:21 GMT
#8263
Way tooo many hackers on NA server. It just feels like high diamond/ML has the most concentration of them.. it's making me sick and it really defeats the purpose of laddering..
Ares[S2000] West Op AresClan 난 요환이가 한번은 우승할거라고 믿어!
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 02 2014 23:34 GMT
#8264
On September 03 2014 05:29 Reapercile wrote:
JackRallY
North America
Platinum
I do a proxy 2 gate on a cross spawn map (Deadwing), he decided to throw down a second gateway blind when I show my proxy two gate, and proceeds to save chronoboost for zealots, all before I show my units.
http://drop.sc/385624

deadwing isnt cross only
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 02 2014 23:47 GMT
#8265
On September 03 2014 08:21 styleworks79 wrote:
Way tooo many hackers on NA server. It just feels like high diamond/ML has the most concentration of them.. it's making me sick and it really defeats the purpose of laddering..

Take it to the QQ thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/377984-starcraft-2-qq-thread
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Hulkoff
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden51 Posts
September 03 2014 09:34 GMT
#8266
Hacker name: FrluNs
Server: EU
League: Master
Description: Obvious maphacker. No attempt to hide it. He's building things outside his vision as if he's zoomed out. (just check from his vision at x8 and you'll spot it) Strange banshee movement to dodge sporecrawlers.

http://drop.sc/385637
PlaySC2
Profile Joined October 2013
Norway10 Posts
September 05 2014 01:17 GMT
#8267
Name: xxMONSTERxxx
Server: EU
League: top diamond

soon-to-be-master-protoss.. simply cheats to get free wins on ladder.. disgusting.
the replay is kind of self explanatory from the beginning. maphack and what have you.

http://drop.sc/385694rvQUckZRy77A
Game is hard
devo.
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany32 Posts
September 06 2014 17:57 GMT
#8268
Name : Shadye
Server : EU
League : Master

This is the second time I played him, but i couldn't find the other replay. I think it pretty obvious that he is hacking. Blindly walking to kill overlords, bunkers and just the overall game.

http://drop.sc/385767
Life finds a way.
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
September 06 2014 19:16 GMT
#8269
On September 05 2014 10:17 MiddleBrother wrote:
Name: xxMONSTERxxx
Server: EU
League: top diamond

soon-to-be-master-protoss.. simply cheats to get free wins on ladder.. disgusting.
the replay is kind of self explanatory from the beginning. maphack and what have you.

http://drop.sc/385694rvQUckZRy77A


ye, a maphacker. funny how he moved his whole army to intercept that 1 unit going to his hidden base.
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
ChiefTMNT
Profile Joined September 2014
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 00:59:44
September 09 2014 00:52 GMT
#8270
He is a barcode player, North America, played Apocalypse.1657 on Catallena, September 8th 2014.

http://drop.sc/385868
starcraft://profile/1/17578811615040503808
Hi
iS.Mike
Profile Joined September 2011
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 05:32:32
September 09 2014 02:08 GMT
#8271
Hacker name: MrDemocrat
Server: NA
League: GM Rank 141 (75-45)
Description: http://drop.sc/385801

This is a recently promoted GM. It was brought to my attention by a teammate. A few things I found suspicious:

2:25 - Strange probe movement. Initially begins to move up to scout the main, then seems to change to move behind the natural, finally moves to a high ground near the third and back to the natural almost instantly. Seems odd except that it dodges the scouting drone perfectly.
4:30, 4:40 - Protoss camera pans briefly through the fog of war where lings are gathering, twice.
6:55 - Moves the probe at the other third base as soon as lings are queued towards it. This is suspicious because he doesn't move the probe when the other probe at the third died or when his pylon at the natural was picked off.
10:00 - Moves 2 stalkers across the map and onto creep despite knowing his opponent had at least 8 lings from the beginning of the game already out. This just seems strange because if the zerg had speed, those would be free stalkers, and 10 minutes is almost a guarantee that speed is done. Not to mention his 2 stalkers pick off all 3 lings positioned for scouting on the map before being rallied onto creep.
12:25 - Perhaps the most suspicious action this game. The MSC moves closer to the natural for no apparent reason. In reality, there are hydras and lings in the fog of war between the main and natural of the protoss, and the MSC is being repositioned to photon overcharge both bases.
12:31 - Instant response and warp in. Literally less than a second reaction. For some reason, the camera was panning with the zerg army before the warp in occurs.

These are all the major instances, but it's always suspicious when no attempt at scouting is made as well as strange move out timings. Despite the outcome of the game, I feel it is still worth looking into.
DeerKnight
Profile Joined March 2012
Croatia2 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 18:56:54
September 09 2014 18:41 GMT
#8272
Name : [Winsto] Winstons
Server : NA
League : Diamond
starcraft://profile/1/5373272643011084288
http://drop.sc/385885

I went 14/14 speed bane, one base muta, counters everything without any proper scout.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 19:59:35
September 09 2014 19:57 GMT
#8273
On September 10 2014 03:41 DeerKnight wrote:
Name : [Winsto] Winstons
Server : NA
League : Diamond
starcraft://profile/1/5373272643011084288
http://drop.sc/385885

I went 14/14 speed bane, one base muta, counters everything without any proper scout.

he countered your 14/14 by identifying your total lack of expansion. he did not add any defensive measures until after he had vision of no hatch at your natural so that has nothing to do with anything.

the fact that five spores (rather than two or three) came down before he saw the mutas is remarkable but not really enough to prove maphacking. you expanded super late and didn't attack with your lings so he knew you were teching to something, and the only possible options are muta, roach or burrowed infestor. he already had spines down if you were going 1base roach and the other two possibilities are blindcountered by spores. suspicious but not proof. you aren't playing GMs on ladder, for all you know someone did the same build against him in his last game and it pissed him off. or maybe you're not the only person who's ever watched catz
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DeerKnight
Profile Joined March 2012
Croatia2 Posts
September 09 2014 20:48 GMT
#8274
so first 15/15 without expand and overlord first, then he masks his potential of expanding, this is no build order but ok, i believe there are bad players in diamond league on NA so i can chew it.
Then he sees that i dont have expo and ofc normal thing to do is build lings and defend. no problem with that.
Then i move the lings down of the ramp of the natural so if`m not careful to not lose it but in same time he moves his lings also, later for that he calls me for mh, but my thought in game were that he will have speed soon and like any goal of every player it is to clean his natural and counter attack.
His speed finish at 7:52, expo at 8:00 and at 8:10 one spore, 8:37, 2nd spore, 8:43 3rd spore, 9:17, well better have 2 more spores because why not. in the end maybe i m wrong, and then i m watching his match history every zvz, if 10 pool he is going 13pool, if it is 10/10, its 13/13, 15 pool its hatch first.
However, you are correct that i m subscribed to Catz.
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 17:08:36
September 10 2014 16:58 GMT
#8275
Barcode protoss level 70, thatcher portrait. High master NA.
starcraft://profile/1/15847532696277352448

This guy doesn't really care about making it obvious.

Gets a reactive forge against my cannon rush without seeing anything.
Changes direction of his oracle to intercept a probe that he didn't see.
Sends a zealot straight into the exact spot where I proxied a dark shrine.


http://drop.sc/385916
(he's the blue player)
zalem95
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru184 Posts
September 12 2014 17:32 GMT
#8276
So if u see this guy on ladder reported him so Blizzard can actually ban him there's the replay and he is not even try to fake it like even before he can see anything on the map he got his nexus cannon ready and withouth observers he also kenw were everything were like WTF what is even the point of cheating in diamond league G_G.

starcraft://profile/1/14245507966429036544

https://www.dropbox.com/s/85z51aqahw4wws1/Nimbus LE (9).SC2Replay?dl=0

He is the protoss player
nothing special
jaf
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy9 Posts
September 12 2014 18:56 GMT
#8277
Name: Oleg
Server: EU
League: Master

Proxy rax on my 3rd on deadwing without scouting and blind turret vs my cloak banshee without scouting!

http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/ru/124842/Oleg/hots/1v1
http://ggtracker.com/matches/5423551
mass stalker walks into a bar and says where is the counter?
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
September 14 2014 09:38 GMT
#8278
Hacker name: GenghisKhan
Server: NA
League: Diamond (Former GM)
B.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4175053/1/GenghisKhan/
SC2Ranks: http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/us/4175053/GenghisKhan/hots/1v1
Replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/5428443
Description: 14 minutes ZvP on Foxtrot Labs LE, NO SCOUT whatsoever except for the few times he saw my lings, overlords and army positioning through the fog of war, he also checked the rocks close to my natural (through the fog of war) to make sure he could get in my base or force an engage, he built a robo, made 4 immortals and not a single observer, he never used hallucinations either...LOL
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 10:18:45
September 14 2014 10:14 GMT
#8279
I would say 90% maphack. I'd ask you to watch the replay and tell me if in your opinion he maphacks or not.

Hacker name: Nova
Server: NA
League: Master
B.net profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5820304/1/Nova/
Replay: http://drop.sc/386096
Description:

Early game is a bit suspicious, he goes 3 stalker rush into phoenixes (no one does that build, it loses against almost everything) while I go oracle and builds only 1 phoenix while I switch into twilight (all of this not scouted). But it could be, it's still just NA master league ladder.

Other than that, he seems a very legit player, scouts all the time, etc. But then...

I go for a storm drop at around 12:00, when the warp prism is about halfway done, he resumes phoenix production, builds only 2 of them, and sends them straight to intercept my warp prism.

He blindly goes for an all in on my third base without scouting if it was there or not.

At 17:00 , he builds an observer while I was sending the first DT I ever made into his base.
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 10:33:19
September 14 2014 10:31 GMT
#8280
EDIT: Mistake post
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