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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 03:44:13
August 23 2012 03:35 GMT
#2161
On August 23 2012 12:27 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 12:27 AnomalySC2 wrote:
GameofProbes. Pretty sure he maphacks.

You'd think by now people would have learned to include evidence or not post a short one liner.


I thought I had copied the link, anyways it was edited in like 5 seconds after I posted. You're quick. What more needs to be said about the replay, watch for yourself. He gets denied gas scout, then sees a bunker at my natural but NOT if I have an expansion. I'm going for cloak banshee expand, What does he do? 3 gate phoenix with an obs. What. As if that isn't the most wacky response to seeing the intel he was shown, he tries to intercept my banshee at the complete bottom right side of the map with his phoenix for absolutely no reason, no scouting, nothing.

He then proceeds to try and kill me as I'm floating my expansion to my natural, it fails because his micro was sloppy, then I counter and win. Nothing adds up about his play.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
August 23 2012 03:59 GMT
#2162
On August 23 2012 12:35 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 12:27 EtherealDeath wrote:
On August 23 2012 12:27 AnomalySC2 wrote:
GameofProbes. Pretty sure he maphacks.

You'd think by now people would have learned to include evidence or not post a short one liner.


I thought I had copied the link, anyways it was edited in like 5 seconds after I posted. You're quick. What more needs to be said about the replay, watch for yourself.

Info usually needed: Link to the replay. Who is the suspect (preferably with link to his profile or sc2ranks), his league, what makes you think he hacks (e.g. suspicious moments preferably with time stamps).

It takes time to watch replays and try to figure out if somebody is hacking. If you suspect/blame somebody for hacking you should always present the evidence and make it easy for others to confirm it.

Don't have time to check the replay at the moment. Maybe somebody else does...
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 23 2012 04:01 GMT
#2163
On August 23 2012 12:59 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 12:35 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On August 23 2012 12:27 EtherealDeath wrote:
On August 23 2012 12:27 AnomalySC2 wrote:
GameofProbes. Pretty sure he maphacks.

You'd think by now people would have learned to include evidence or not post a short one liner.


I thought I had copied the link, anyways it was edited in like 5 seconds after I posted. You're quick. What more needs to be said about the replay, watch for yourself.

Info usually needed: Link to the replay. Who is the suspect (preferably with link to his profile or sc2ranks), his league, what makes you think he hacks (e.g. suspicious moments preferably with time stamps).

It takes time to watch replays and try to figure out if somebody is hacking. If you suspect/blame somebody for hacking you should always present the evidence and make it easy for others to confirm it.

Don't have time to check the replay at the moment. Maybe somebody else does...


Ok I edited my post above with some info on the replay.
mKcPandaLove
Profile Joined March 2012
34 Posts
August 23 2012 04:09 GMT
#2164
On August 23 2012 12:18 zoohairZ wrote:
I just played mKcPandaLove in 2v2. I think I've figured him out. He says he doesn't hack and says stuff like "just go ahead and post replays of me hacking, you cant!". Thing is, I think he means it quite literally. After playing him a few things seemed fishy, but not too bad. Then I watched the replay. After I made a spire, he started building cannons in all his mineral lines (main and expo) and the spire wasn't scouted. Then I tried to save the replay and post it here but for some reason I can't save the replay. It literally wont let me click "keep", yet I can save all the other ones i've played. Is this is a feature of paid maphackers or something? Does anyone else know anything about that?


This guy is totally mad for losing, ScNzoohair claims that why should I build cannons in my mineral line?
Because we scout your Ling Bane run bys, and if I don't have cannons in my base, then I will have no defense and my econ will be totally wiped out. I've had so much experience with getting all-ined that once you kill off 1 person, its essentially 2v1 so all you need to do is macro up and mass defend your base, more cannons won't hurt (better to be safe than sorry). PLUS we already scouted the Lair, and what's usually the case after lair? MUTA.

On top of this since we scouted the lair obviously i'm not going to send dt one by one into his base to die, since he potentially could have overseer. Once I got a good amount of dt to snipe his base and he suicided all his lings, I ran into his main to snipe his base.

I encourage anyone to check me or Depravity's point of view and tell me if we hack or not.

This is the replay for that game: http://drop.sc/242430
Depravity
Profile Joined December 2011
67 Posts
August 23 2012 04:29 GMT
#2165
On August 23 2012 13:09 mKcPandaLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 12:18 zoohairZ wrote:
I just played mKcPandaLove in 2v2. I think I've figured him out. He says he doesn't hack and says stuff like "just go ahead and post replays of me hacking, you cant!". Thing is, I think he means it quite literally. After playing him a few things seemed fishy, but not too bad. Then I watched the replay. After I made a spire, he started building cannons in all his mineral lines (main and expo) and the spire wasn't scouted. Then I tried to save the replay and post it here but for some reason I can't save the replay. It literally wont let me click "keep", yet I can save all the other ones i've played. Is this is a feature of paid maphackers or something? Does anyone else know anything about that?


This guy is totally mad for losing, ScNzoohair claims that why should I build cannons in my mineral line?
Because we scout your Ling Bane run bys, and if I don't have cannons in my base, then I will have no defense and my econ will be totally wiped out. I've had so much experience with getting all-ined that once you kill off 1 person, its essentially 2v1 so all you need to do is macro up and mass defend your base, more cannons won't hurt (better to be safe than sorry). PLUS we already scouted the Lair, and what's usually the case after lair? MUTA.

On top of this since we scouted the lair obviously i'm not going to send dt one by one into his base to die, since he potentially could have overseer. Once I got a good amount of dt to snipe his base and he suicided all his lings, I ran into his main to snipe his base.

I encourage anyone to check me or Depravity's point of view and tell me if we hack or not.

This is the replay for that game: http://drop.sc/242430




Lawl. For people accusing us of Pandalove Hacking ( There were accusations of me hacking too .. For those who think I hack ) Pandalove and i even supplied that replay ^ You think a hacker would upload their own replay when " zoohair accuses us of maphack"

Here's what our mindset was going on in the game - I told Zoohair this but i guess he didn't bother to read and he just wanted to feed the drama.

Zoohair's First accusation of maphack : Builds a bunch of slow lings for like 5 minutes straights and around 5:00, He starts running out all those slow lings into Depravity's Natural.

1) My ling at his expo saw his lings came out
2) My overlord saw him move to my base
3) my Rallied lings passed his lings

Result ? : I drone pulled my queen and He accuses me of maphacking.

Zoohair's 2nd accusation of maphack : morphs a bunch of banelings outside my base and attempts to attack Depravity ( zergs) base again

1) Pylon outside his base saw his lings run onut
2) It's even PINGED on the replay on our point of view
3) I run my lings back after destroying the protoss
4) One of my lings on his way back Saw his banes morphing

Result ? : I move my drones and he managed to kill a few - But then accuses me of maphack

Zoohair's 3rd accusation of maphack: Pandalove , ( Funny how throughout the whole replay, he was targetting me the whole game for his 1st and 2nd accusation, but blames pandalove . ) accuses Pandalove of sending Dts to kill his base, and cannons at his own mineral line

1) My earlier ling attack saw his lair morphing , This pre-empted us to make some cannons since it only made logical sense since there were shit loads of cannons outside his base. however, This was only a sign
2) He was making LINGS WHOLE GAME , a few banes , Nobody masses Lings for 15 mins in game then suddenly goes lair to get roach. That's why Pandalove went cannon .
3) His lings MOVE OUT and then pandalove Sends his DTS to hit his LAIR . SENDS them in because his ARMY WAS OUT
4) His lair dies , and the Two mutas he had in his base for literally the whole time is sent at end of game
5) Sees cannons and accuses us of maphack

Zoohair i told you kindly after game to be my friend, and understand the misunderstandings. No reply , yet you send the rage message Here
and you Have a big arguement with Pandalove .

I didn't want to blow you out like this - but i had to put the detailed explination in TL since you bothered to bring it here.

Hope THIS POST , Clears your misunderstandings . The friend offer is still up btw .
Treat others like how you want to be treated
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
August 23 2012 04:30 GMT
#2166
HAHAHA...

It's amazing how many of these people were in LG's chat channel when I used to hang out there.

And how innocent and offended they acted when I asked them about it.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 23 2012 04:31 GMT
#2167
Zoohairz accuses everyone of hacking, even when they're streaming.
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Depravity
Profile Joined December 2011
67 Posts
August 23 2012 04:33 GMT
#2168
On August 23 2012 13:31 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Zoohairz accuses everyone of hacking, even when they're streaming.



LOL
And this guy has 2.5k posts.

Obviously this is another smurf defending hackers / insulting zoohair right ?
Treat others like how you want to be treated
zoohairZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 04:43:28
August 23 2012 04:41 GMT
#2169
Nah Depravity, wasn't accusing you of hacking. Only pandalove. The extra cannons after I put down spire without you guys scouting it. You had me fully contained in the front, a Nydus would make more sense to expect from a lair than a spire in that situation, yet you had nothing around your bases to scout for nyduses. Second, you KNEW I had a lair and KNEW I had a spine and overseer and mutas in my main by a certain point. Yet you still sent in 4-5 DT's in my main to snipe my lair because my overseer wasn't around. I purposely showed you my overseer so you wouldn't do anything dumb like that, then the minute my overseer isn't in my base you send 4-5 dt's to my base. Anyways, i really dont care either way.
sewergoat
Profile Joined May 2011
United States97 Posts
August 23 2012 04:48 GMT
#2170
gotta love the witchhunt thread
Silence is better than bullshit
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 23 2012 04:49 GMT
#2171
"your response makes your a hacker!"
this thread. ._...
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 04:53:29
August 23 2012 04:51 GMT
#2172
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2012 13:29 Depravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 13:09 mKcPandaLove wrote:
On August 23 2012 12:18 zoohairZ wrote:
I just played mKcPandaLove in 2v2. I think I've figured him out. He says he doesn't hack and says stuff like "just go ahead and post replays of me hacking, you cant!". Thing is, I think he means it quite literally. After playing him a few things seemed fishy, but not too bad. Then I watched the replay. After I made a spire, he started building cannons in all his mineral lines (main and expo) and the spire wasn't scouted. Then I tried to save the replay and post it here but for some reason I can't save the replay. It literally wont let me click "keep", yet I can save all the other ones i've played. Is this is a feature of paid maphackers or something? Does anyone else know anything about that?


This guy is totally mad for losing, ScNzoohair claims that why should I build cannons in my mineral line?
Because we scout your Ling Bane run bys, and if I don't have cannons in my base, then I will have no defense and my econ will be totally wiped out. I've had so much experience with getting all-ined that once you kill off 1 person, its essentially 2v1 so all you need to do is macro up and mass defend your base, more cannons won't hurt (better to be safe than sorry). PLUS we already scouted the Lair, and what's usually the case after lair? MUTA.

On top of this since we scouted the lair obviously i'm not going to send dt one by one into his base to die, since he potentially could have overseer. Once I got a good amount of dt to snipe his base and he suicided all his lings, I ran into his main to snipe his base.

I encourage anyone to check me or Depravity's point of view and tell me if we hack or not.

This is the replay for that game: http://drop.sc/242430




Lawl. For people accusing us of Pandalove Hacking ( There were accusations of me hacking too .. For those who think I hack ) Pandalove and i even supplied that replay ^ You think a hacker would upload their own replay when " zoohair accuses us of maphack"

Here's what our mindset was going on in the game - I told Zoohair this but i guess he didn't bother to read and he just wanted to feed the drama.

Zoohair's First accusation of maphack : Builds a bunch of slow lings for like 5 minutes straights and around 5:00, He starts running out all those slow lings into Depravity's Natural.

1) My ling at his expo saw his lings came out
2) My overlord saw him move to my base
3) my Rallied lings passed his lings

Result ? : I drone pulled my queen and He accuses me of maphacking.

Zoohair's 2nd accusation of maphack : morphs a bunch of banelings outside my base and attempts to attack Depravity ( zergs) base again

1) Pylon outside his base saw his lings run onut
2) It's even PINGED on the replay on our point of view
3) I run my lings back after destroying the protoss
4) One of my lings on his way back Saw his banes morphing

Result ? : I move my drones and he managed to kill a few - But then accuses me of maphack

Zoohair's 3rd accusation of maphack: Pandalove , ( Funny how throughout the whole replay, he was targetting me the whole game for his 1st and 2nd accusation, but blames pandalove . ) accuses Pandalove of sending Dts to kill his base, and cannons at his own mineral line

1) My earlier ling attack saw his lair morphing , This pre-empted us to make some cannons since it only made logical sense since there were shit loads of cannons outside his base. however, This was only a sign
2) He was making LINGS WHOLE GAME , a few banes , Nobody masses Lings for 15 mins in game then suddenly goes lair to get roach. That's why Pandalove went cannon .
3) His lings MOVE OUT and then pandalove Sends his DTS to hit his LAIR . SENDS them in because his ARMY WAS OUT
4) His lair dies , and the Two mutas he had in his base for literally the whole time is sent at end of game
5) Sees cannons and accuses us of maphack

Zoohair i told you kindly after game to be my friend, and understand the misunderstandings. No reply , yet you send the rage message Here
and you Have a big arguement with Pandalove .

I didn't want to blow you out like this - but i had to put the detailed explination in TL since you bothered to bring it here.

Hope THIS POST , Clears your misunderstandings . The friend offer is still up btw .

Good points, but there's just one thing I'm curious of (and really doesn't have anything to do with the points you raised, just curious). Are you Depravity, or Pandalove, or both? The person who gets referenced by "my" and in the 3rd person swaps from Depravity to Pandalove back to Depravity back to Pandalove back to Depravity. Was just a bit confusing while reading lol. NVM more clear now after after a re-read
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 05:06:29
August 23 2012 05:04 GMT
#2173
On August 23 2012 13:29 Depravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 13:09 mKcPandaLove wrote:
On August 23 2012 12:18 zoohairZ wrote:
I just played mKcPandaLove in 2v2. I think I've figured him out. He says he doesn't hack and says stuff like "just go ahead and post replays of me hacking, you cant!". Thing is, I think he means it quite literally. After playing him a few things seemed fishy, but not too bad. Then I watched the replay. After I made a spire, he started building cannons in all his mineral lines (main and expo) and the spire wasn't scouted. Then I tried to save the replay and post it here but for some reason I can't save the replay. It literally wont let me click "keep", yet I can save all the other ones i've played. Is this is a feature of paid maphackers or something? Does anyone else know anything about that?


This guy is totally mad for losing, ScNzoohair claims that why should I build cannons in my mineral line?
Because we scout your Ling Bane run bys, and if I don't have cannons in my base, then I will have no defense and my econ will be totally wiped out. I've had so much experience with getting all-ined that once you kill off 1 person, its essentially 2v1 so all you need to do is macro up and mass defend your base, more cannons won't hurt (better to be safe than sorry). PLUS we already scouted the Lair, and what's usually the case after lair? MUTA.

On top of this since we scouted the lair obviously i'm not going to send dt one by one into his base to die, since he potentially could have overseer. Once I got a good amount of dt to snipe his base and he suicided all his lings, I ran into his main to snipe his base.

I encourage anyone to check me or Depravity's point of view and tell me if we hack or not.

This is the replay for that game: http://drop.sc/242430




Lawl. For people accusing us of Pandalove Hacking ( There were accusations of me hacking too .. For those who think I hack ) Pandalove and i even supplied that replay ^ You think a hacker would upload their own replay when " zoohair accuses us of maphack"

Here's what our mindset was going on in the game - I told Zoohair this but i guess he didn't bother to read and he just wanted to feed the drama.

Zoohair's First accusation of maphack : Builds a bunch of slow lings for like 5 minutes straights and around 5:00, He starts running out all those slow lings into Depravity's Natural.

1) My ling at his expo saw his lings came out
2) My overlord saw him move to my base
3) my Rallied lings passed his lings

Result ? : I drone pulled my queen and He accuses me of maphacking.

Zoohair's 2nd accusation of maphack : morphs a bunch of banelings outside my base and attempts to attack Depravity ( zergs) base again

1) Pylon outside his base saw his lings run onut
2) It's even PINGED on the replay on our point of view
3) I run my lings back after destroying the protoss
4) One of my lings on his way back Saw his banes morphing

Result ? : I move my drones and he managed to kill a few - But then accuses me of maphack

Zoohair's 3rd accusation of maphack: Pandalove , ( Funny how throughout the whole replay, he was targetting me the whole game for his 1st and 2nd accusation, but blames pandalove . ) accuses Pandalove of sending Dts to kill his base, and cannons at his own mineral line

1) My earlier ling attack saw his lair morphing , This pre-empted us to make some cannons since it only made logical sense since there were shit loads of cannons outside his base. however, This was only a sign
2) He was making LINGS WHOLE GAME , a few banes , Nobody masses Lings for 15 mins in game then suddenly goes lair to get roach. That's why Pandalove went cannon .
3) His lings MOVE OUT and then pandalove Sends his DTS to hit his LAIR . SENDS them in because his ARMY WAS OUT
4) His lair dies , and the Two mutas he had in his base for literally the whole time is sent at end of game
5) Sees cannons and accuses us of maphack

Zoohair i told you kindly after game to be my friend, and understand the misunderstandings. No reply , yet you send the rage message Here
and you Have a big arguement with Pandalove .

I didn't want to blow you out like this - but i had to put the detailed explination in TL since you bothered to bring it here.

Hope THIS POST , Clears your misunderstandings . The friend offer is still up btw .


Saying "do you really think a hacker would post his own replay", well from what happened here in the past, yes some hackers do post their own replay. I can't remember if it was DSninetail or Venusaur, but it was shown in the replay that had been sent as defense that the player was himself hacking.

PS: I won't be looking at team games replays.

EDIT: Let's keep it civil here, if you guys want to argue about this matter, do it in a mannered way and with some evidence to justify your claim please.
mKcPandaLove
Profile Joined March 2012
34 Posts
August 23 2012 05:37 GMT
#2174
On August 23 2012 13:41 zoohairZ wrote:
Nah Depravity, wasn't accusing you of hacking. Only pandalove. The extra cannons after I put down spire without you guys scouting it. You had me fully contained in the front, a Nydus would make more sense to expect from a lair than a spire in that situation, yet you had nothing around your bases to scout for nyduses. Second, you KNEW I had a lair and KNEW I had a spine and overseer and mutas in my main by a certain point. Yet you still sent in 4-5 DT's in my main to snipe my lair because my overseer wasn't around. I purposely showed you my overseer so you wouldn't do anything dumb like that, then the minute my overseer isn't in my base you send 4-5 dt's to my base. Anyways, i really dont care either way.


Zoohair if you went nydus, that would just be really dumb because we already have the ling army to counter your army, which would mean you lose automatically. If you went muta, which is the right choice, that means none of Depravity's lings can hurt your units which means you are hoping that we don't have air defense in our base. If you went roach that's just dumb because it would take too long to tech to roach since you're already on ling bane and I was already making cannons at front .

So the perfect counter to everything is just mass cannon until your econ kicks in.

I did not see your overseer, and I did not care if you had one in your base or not. I knew the perfect timing window was once you suicided your lings into the cannons and I go into your main and snipe your main, despite if you have spines or muta, etc. The DT's job are there to suicide and kill off your only source of production and income. And DT's snipe buildings extremely quick.
Depravity
Profile Joined December 2011
67 Posts
August 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2175
On August 23 2012 14:37 mKcPandaLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 13:41 zoohairZ wrote:
Nah Depravity, wasn't accusing you of hacking. Only pandalove. The extra cannons after I put down spire without you guys scouting it. You had me fully contained in the front, a Nydus would make more sense to expect from a lair than a spire in that situation, yet you had nothing around your bases to scout for nyduses. Second, you KNEW I had a lair and KNEW I had a spine and overseer and mutas in my main by a certain point. Yet you still sent in 4-5 DT's in my main to snipe my lair because my overseer wasn't around. I purposely showed you my overseer so you wouldn't do anything dumb like that, then the minute my overseer isn't in my base you send 4-5 dt's to my base. Anyways, i really dont care either way.


Zoohair if you went nydus, that would just be really dumb because we already have the ling army to counter your army, which would mean you lose automatically. If you went muta, which is the right choice, that means none of Depravity's lings can hurt your units which means you are hoping that we don't have air defense in our base. If you went roach that's just dumb because it would take too long to tech to roach since you're already on ling bane and I was already making cannons at front .

So the perfect counter to everything is just mass cannon until your econ kicks in.

I did not see your overseer, and I did not care if you had one in your base or not. I knew the perfect timing window was once you suicided your lings into the cannons and I go into your main and snipe your main, despite if you have spines or muta, etc. The DT's job are there to suicide and kill off your only source of production and income. And DT's snipe buildings extremely quick.



Yep - Covered in my " Point 3 of Accusation #3 "


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saladToss
Profile Joined June 2012
United States75 Posts
August 23 2012 06:39 GMT
#2176
Not surprised one bit to see depravity and pandalove defending themselves in this thread.
Time is like a fuse, short and burning fast
Zark
Profile Joined January 2011
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 07:53:48
August 23 2012 07:49 GMT
#2177
On August 22 2012 18:12 -DJZark- wrote:
GameOfDrone messaged mKcPandaLove while he was streaming asking for his account information to play on his account few months ago. He leveled or played on his account if he asked for this information to access his account and PandaLove replied with later, i'm in game now while he was playing 4v4 on his stream. If GameOfDrone did indeed play for PandaLove, then the account probably has hacked on SC2 but as for the player hacking, maybe both if you actually let a hacker login into any of your accounts, it doesn't help your case.

VOD: http://www.twitch.tv/pandalovetv/b/313179768

I downloaded it if it doesn't work incase someone is trying to hide anything.

Go to 22:20, After the Toxic Sums 4v4, look who messages him and what he says


Account has obviously been hacked on. Just find the replays GameOfDrone played. I don't know why anyone would let a hacker play on their account. I've heard about Depravity hacking too but the people who know most about these players and their "hacking" history don't login much.

Someone e-Mailed this to me:

hey like i said in the subject, and ur right about these ppl but who are u how did u know, i only know that depravity did it cuz i played with him and i saw he hacks he knew every thing the enemy doing,again who are u lol ur badass ^_^

Jack Miller

So this guy called Jack Miller has proof on Depravity hacking? Ask him for the proof I guess. No idea who he is. Someone here probably has him on Real-ID if he is one of those people in the master channel, etc.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
August 23 2012 12:31 GMT
#2178
On August 23 2012 03:48 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:46 Heh_ wrote:
On August 23 2012 03:32 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On August 23 2012 03:19 zmansman17 wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:33 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:22 Snowbear wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:01 mKcPandaLove wrote:
Please get better at the game and get better game sense. Minimap awareness and map control is crucial in sc2, having good scouting and map control does not mean you're maphacking.


On August 22 2012 20:01 mKcPandaLove wrote:
you can uninstall sc2 now for just being bad.


You are way too defensive imo. One of the things that hackers have in common is that they deny the fact that they hack. Another thing in common is that they get very defensive (with an agressive tone).


It's funny that he's calling someone else bad when he exclusively plays team games and had a hacker boost his account in 1v1. He claims he doesn't know GameOfDrones but he is clearly on friendly terms with the guy and has his skype info. Someone who can't even reach masters 1v1 without being boosted yet is top 2v2 masters? It's pretty clear he is involved with hacking, either directly or indirectly. But honestly, who really cares he only plays team games lol.. the joke is really on him.


Many times those people who have surreptitious play and aggressively deny hacking are indeed hackers. We've seen this pattern repeat itself many times now.


on the other hand, if someone accused me of cheating in something I put a lot of effort and time into to achieve my goal, I'd get pretty mad, probably defend myslef in a very aggressive way because I'd want to get back at the person who accused me thus threatening ruin something I worked very hard on in an honest way.

Fun thing is, the way I react to accusations has made people think I've been lieing/ cheating in the past about other things even tho I've been falsely accused (nothing esportsrelated just normal stuff in school, broken windows etc)

I simply get really REALLY angry when people think of me as not telling the truth even though the truth is important to me.

What im trying to say is, dont judge people because of things that really doesnt prove anything, but is more based on generalizations than real facts.

If someone accused me of hacking and I'm completely clean, I'd just laugh at him instead of defending myself. The more you deny it, the more dirt gets dug up.

It's even more hilarious when people create accounts just to defend themselves. Who cares about some shitty little kid who's so bad at the game that he has to resort to hacks? Showing off your rank?Who cares?


That's what I do. I laugh when someone is like "fucking hacker I'm going to report you". So funny ^_^.

¨

it's one thing having some random ladder-kid rage-accusing u of hacking in a game,
it's another thing having someone making a post on a forum, accusing u of being shady because forum posts can catch on and actually hurt you in some way.

Heh_ Good for you if you react that way, people react different to different situations, but your logic reminds me of witchhunts during 15th century (LETS THROW HER IN THE WATER, IF SHE DROWNS SHE'S NOT A WITCH!)
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
August 23 2012 13:22 GMT
#2179
i ve got a new maphacker for you
eu server high master
http://drop.sc/242528
blind proxy on 4 pl map, can t be luck because he s known in the german battlenet forum for hacking, there are some more replays of him on other matchups and maps
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 23 2012 13:31 GMT
#2180
On August 23 2012 21:31 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:48 blade55555 wrote:
On August 23 2012 03:46 Heh_ wrote:
On August 23 2012 03:32 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On August 23 2012 03:19 zmansman17 wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:33 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:22 Snowbear wrote:
On August 22 2012 20:01 mKcPandaLove wrote:
Please get better at the game and get better game sense. Minimap awareness and map control is crucial in sc2, having good scouting and map control does not mean you're maphacking.


On August 22 2012 20:01 mKcPandaLove wrote:
you can uninstall sc2 now for just being bad.


You are way too defensive imo. One of the things that hackers have in common is that they deny the fact that they hack. Another thing in common is that they get very defensive (with an agressive tone).


It's funny that he's calling someone else bad when he exclusively plays team games and had a hacker boost his account in 1v1. He claims he doesn't know GameOfDrones but he is clearly on friendly terms with the guy and has his skype info. Someone who can't even reach masters 1v1 without being boosted yet is top 2v2 masters? It's pretty clear he is involved with hacking, either directly or indirectly. But honestly, who really cares he only plays team games lol.. the joke is really on him.


Many times those people who have surreptitious play and aggressively deny hacking are indeed hackers. We've seen this pattern repeat itself many times now.


on the other hand, if someone accused me of cheating in something I put a lot of effort and time into to achieve my goal, I'd get pretty mad, probably defend myslef in a very aggressive way because I'd want to get back at the person who accused me thus threatening ruin something I worked very hard on in an honest way.

Fun thing is, the way I react to accusations has made people think I've been lieing/ cheating in the past about other things even tho I've been falsely accused (nothing esportsrelated just normal stuff in school, broken windows etc)

I simply get really REALLY angry when people think of me as not telling the truth even though the truth is important to me.

What im trying to say is, dont judge people because of things that really doesnt prove anything, but is more based on generalizations than real facts.

If someone accused me of hacking and I'm completely clean, I'd just laugh at him instead of defending myself. The more you deny it, the more dirt gets dug up.

It's even more hilarious when people create accounts just to defend themselves. Who cares about some shitty little kid who's so bad at the game that he has to resort to hacks? Showing off your rank?Who cares?


That's what I do. I laugh when someone is like "fucking hacker I'm going to report you". So funny ^_^.

¨

it's one thing having some random ladder-kid rage-accusing u of hacking in a game,
it's another thing having someone making a post on a forum, accusing u of being shady because forum posts can catch on and actually hurt you in some way.

Heh_ Good for you if you react that way, people react different to different situations, but your logic reminds me of witchhunts during 15th century (LETS THROW HER IN THE WATER, IF SHE DROWNS SHE'S NOT A WITCH!)

I have no idea how you equate proper rational logic to witch hunting. Who the fuck cares if you're some no-name dude on the internet accuses you of hacking. What's gonna happen? You think someone's gonna go ballistic on you just because of some "forum post" by an anonymous kid? You're gonna get stalked and murdered? Of course not! Duh. All those accused are still very much alive and well.

It's not my fault that I'm blessed with common sense.
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