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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
May 23 2012 21:50 GMT
#121
On May 24 2012 06:30 Shiori wrote:
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On May 24 2012 06:16 avilo wrote:
On May 24 2012 06:13 FidoDido wrote:
MVP doesn't complain about the match ups because he is a bonjwa. Bonjwas don't whine about imbalances, they just win then win some more.


Actually, I believe there was an interview where he also stated something along the lines of "protoss is too strong." Look it up.

IN his GSL interview he said he planned to win in the lategame and made no mention of Protoss being OP. Either supply a counter-point or don't bother injecting inflammatory, baseless assertions.


nope, MVP has stated that protoss is OP. not in his recent interviews but he said something along the lines of my win rate is good TvP but that's only becuase I was lucky, protoss is actually too strong
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
May 23 2012 21:53 GMT
#122
On May 24 2012 06:50 MasterKang wrote:
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On May 24 2012 06:30 Shiori wrote:
On May 24 2012 06:16 avilo wrote:
On May 24 2012 06:13 FidoDido wrote:
MVP doesn't complain about the match ups because he is a bonjwa. Bonjwas don't whine about imbalances, they just win then win some more.


Actually, I believe there was an interview where he also stated something along the lines of "protoss is too strong." Look it up.

IN his GSL interview he said he planned to win in the lategame and made no mention of Protoss being OP. Either supply a counter-point or don't bother injecting inflammatory, baseless assertions.


nope, MVP has stated that protoss is OP. not in his recent interviews but he said something along the lines of my win rate is good TvP but that's only becuase I was lucky, protoss is actually too strong

Source?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2012 22:04 GMT
#123
Line is a cool guy. Hope he does well.
I had a good night of sleep.
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
May 23 2012 22:23 GMT
#124
Ryung is boring... what?

Fuck MMA

JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 23 2012 22:25 GMT
#125
You know, weirdly enough the most positive thing I take from watching this up-and-down group is gom finally adding anti-spoiler videos to camouflage the number of games that were played in the tiebreakers. That, and finally seeing Ryung in code S again!!!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 23 2012 23:32 GMT
#126
On May 24 2012 05:47 Proseat wrote:
It was a really entertaining night at the GOM studio. Especially in that long game between Polt and Ryung that meant so much you could really feel the tension in the air as VINES was sitting on the left-hand side player benches and Line on the right-hand side player benches, both with extra cameras pointed at them. You could really see their minds racing as they looked on to spectate an hour-long game that decided their group fate. When Line eventually came out of his booth to leave the studio, the unusually large crowd starting cheering him on. He clearly was surprised and not used to it. It felt like the entire ZeNEX team was in the audience.

Thanks for the translations! Good to see that after such a long day they still sat down to do them.


sounds awesome! would have been a tad better had he shown better games, but THE THING :D
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Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
May 24 2012 00:12 GMT
#127
On May 24 2012 06:08 mrtomjones wrote:
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On May 24 2012 06:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Idk why people are taking ryung's comment about protoss so seriously. Historically he did poorly against protoss even when terran was perceived as heavily favored. He waas probably just trying to be funny since people always complain about how boring and stale he is. Nothing wrong with joking around trying to show people he has a personality. Just look at his answers. They are just over the top playful

I could see him joking like that. However, the Terrans here choose to believe him So I guess that just adds another thing to the list of things overpowered about Protoss in their opinion.

Storm, Colossus and HT, Chargelots, and now upgrades... -_-

Man the whole time I was watching last night I was confused as to who that Zerg was. I just realized it was Line. Glad he made it through!


I think most people will agree Ryung doesn't have the strongest TvP in terms of pros. When looking at that 200/200 engagement, it does show an issue with late game Terran though. I think a Terran could've came out ok there if they would have kited, split better, etc. The problem is, Vines did practically nothing, except abuse splash damage and chronoboost on upgrades. I think the solution of buffing T3 units is terrible though. It will create the most stale game in the world of two players literally 1aing into their opponent. I'm fine with Protoss units being that powerful IF utilized very well, similar to how bio is.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 24 2012 00:58 GMT
#128
On May 24 2012 00:16 IshinShishi wrote:
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On May 24 2012 00:14 Shiori wrote:
On May 23 2012 23:18 stylz wrote:
haha love his response to losing to toss....telling it like it is....i wonder how much shit the slayers terrans give puzzle for playing 1a toss

Probably none, since Puzzle is known to play at 300+ APM, and Ryung (and all Slayers Terrans) has a historically lackluster TvP.

52% redundant, they are still teammates though, but I doubt that Ryung or MMA think highly of him.


Sheehs, just a few months ago people had threads asking why everyone on Slayers hated MMA so much*. This is super tight-knit team that isn't afraid to rib each other in public (or each other's races).

Although MMA picking Yugioh during his sole Code S appearance is still a little weird to me.

* Ryung even said he was going to stop making fun of MMA b/c everyone was taking him too seriously
gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
May 24 2012 01:45 GMT
#129
If only Puzzle A-moved Maru like what Ryung said...

lol just joking. I support what Ryung said, but i believe he is just like me - not giving up the match up. Although he lost to Vines but he didn't play like he was giving up wasnt it
Make Love Not War
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
May 24 2012 01:57 GMT
#130
On May 24 2012 09:12 Orracle wrote:
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On May 24 2012 06:08 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 24 2012 06:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Idk why people are taking ryung's comment about protoss so seriously. Historically he did poorly against protoss even when terran was perceived as heavily favored. He waas probably just trying to be funny since people always complain about how boring and stale he is. Nothing wrong with joking around trying to show people he has a personality. Just look at his answers. They are just over the top playful

I could see him joking like that. However, the Terrans here choose to believe him So I guess that just adds another thing to the list of things overpowered about Protoss in their opinion.

Storm, Colossus and HT, Chargelots, and now upgrades... -_-

Man the whole time I was watching last night I was confused as to who that Zerg was. I just realized it was Line. Glad he made it through!


I think most people will agree Ryung doesn't have the strongest TvP in terms of pros. When looking at that 200/200 engagement, it does show an issue with late game Terran though. I think a Terran could've came out ok there if they would have kited, split better, etc. The problem is, Vines did practically nothing, except abuse splash damage and chronoboost on upgrades. I think the solution of buffing T3 units is terrible though. It will create the most stale game in the world of two players literally 1aing into their opponent. I'm fine with Protoss units being that powerful IF utilized very well, similar to how bio is.


Totally agree, I really dont think we should make terran stronger or protoss weaker, I think the issue is control, make the toss deathball require a little higher skill/apm to really use effectively, relative to the terran bio/med/ghost/viking control
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
May 24 2012 02:09 GMT
#131
Ryung used to be my favorite Slayers player, but his crying about Protoss just reminded me of how awful the LR thread for this Season of GSL and the Up/Downs have been. Oh well, he'll fall out in the Ro32 of Code S anyways. Grats to Line, loved him in the Super Tournament.
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storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
May 24 2012 02:12 GMT
#132
wow, ryung's interview got so much attention... just remember that ryung's a guy who likes to joke around and he sounded like he was in Korean. Maybe I wasn't able to portray that properly.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 04:06:27
May 24 2012 04:06 GMT
#133
On May 24 2012 11:12 storywriter wrote:
wow, ryung's interview got so much attention... just remember that ryung's a guy who likes to joke around and he sounded like he was in Korean. Maybe I wasn't able to portray that properly.

Behind every joke is a grain of truth!

I actually thought you captured the mood perfectly
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
May 24 2012 04:18 GMT
#134
On May 24 2012 11:12 storywriter wrote:
wow, ryung's interview got so much attention... just remember that ryung's a guy who likes to joke around and he sounded like he was in Korean. Maybe I wasn't able to portray that properly.

Don't take it to heart - there seems to be a bunch of Terran players around TL at the moment who'll take any excuse to fill threads with balance whining. You're right that this thread deserves better, though. If you see anyone mucking up the thread with balance rants you're probably best off just reporting it to the mods. These translation threads you provide are great, and I hate to see one ruined like this.
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
May 24 2012 04:22 GMT
#135
On May 24 2012 00:46 Gosi wrote:
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On May 24 2012 00:34 pewpew444 wrote:
Every terran is going to quote Ryung now for why they lose their ladder matches in silver league.

And every Protoss player will pull the "WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME PROTOSS WON GSL?!!!" and link irrelevant data over the years as a counter just like in every TvP discussion.

Keep on beating that dead horse son...


Balance at the top level matters so much more than balance at diamond league

It's funny how every Terran player is quoting him lol. I guess they need a place to try to make their race look weak to get buffs!

Look at BW Protoss. It was OP in casual bnet level, and even D-rank Iccup level, but it was actually not the case at progamer level. I might actually even say UP at progamer level.
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