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Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
May 14 2012 09:34 GMT
#1181
On May 14 2012 18:30 GizmoPT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 18:26 Snowbear wrote:
On May 14 2012 18:26 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 14 2012 18:21 Snowbear wrote:
On May 14 2012 17:28 sc2holar wrote:
On May 14 2012 16:15 jeffvip wrote:
What do you called a people who are playing an OP race, keep whinning and cannot accept the truth?





A Protoss Player!




Seriously, what did Protoss did wrong in the early life that he deserve this kind of attitude player playing his race now?

ps: I'm just telling the truth, have to ps here first b4 ban incoming...


Are you sure youre not talking about the race who won 50% of all GSL tournaments yet still cries like babies when theyre not completly dominating like they are used to do?


That's 1 tournament. Besides the 5 korean terran gods (mvp, polt, mma, mkp and alive/jakji), every other terran (except thorzain and select) is suffering hard. High master / grandmaster terrans are suffering hard too.


What the hell are you talking about 'suffering hard'. Thorzain just won Dreamhack!


Like I said, EXCEPT thorzain and select!


"all terrans are bad expect the good ones" nice argument :p


No, what I mean is that people should stop looking at those few terrans that dominate. Everyone besides them is having a really really hard time.
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
May 14 2012 09:35 GMT
#1182
On May 14 2012 18:21 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 17:28 sc2holar wrote:
On May 14 2012 16:15 jeffvip wrote:
What do you called a people who are playing an OP race, keep whinning and cannot accept the truth?





A Protoss Player!




Seriously, what did Protoss did wrong in the early life that he deserve this kind of attitude player playing his race now?

ps: I'm just telling the truth, have to ps here first b4 ban incoming...


Are you sure youre not talking about the race who won 50% of all GSL tournaments yet still cries like babies when theyre not completly dominating like they are used to do?


That's 1 tournament. Besides the 5 korean terran gods (mvp, polt, mma, mkp and alive/jakji), every other terran (except thorzain and select) is suffering hard. High master / grandmaster terrans are suffering hard too.


Lol that are 6 not 5. Or did jjakji and alive melt to one person? Also "suffering hard" is very objective, thumbs up :D

Terran is doing well.


oGsMC // NSHS_Sage // IMMvp // IMNesTea
Alexstrasas
Profile Joined August 2010
302 Posts
May 14 2012 09:36 GMT
#1183
On May 14 2012 17:28 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 16:15 jeffvip wrote:
What do you called a people who are playing an OP race, keep whinning and cannot accept the truth?





A Protoss Player!




Seriously, what did Protoss did wrong in the early life that he deserve this kind of attitude player playing his race now?

ps: I'm just telling the truth, have to ps here first b4 ban incoming...


Are you sure youre not talking about the race who won 50% of all GSL tournaments yet still cries like babies when theyre not completly dominating like they are used to do?


I never understood why people are so obsessed with the GSL regarding balance. You have a very small pool of the best players around, its a nonsense to analyze it statistically for serious reasons. I guess people expect blizzard to bend the game so that the players of all races, no matter skill, equally win GSL´s ?
Another think that GLS "statistics guys" seem to forget is that there are like 2-3 notable protoss players while there are 7+ terrans.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 09:40:07
May 14 2012 09:39 GMT
#1184
On May 14 2012 18:34 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 18:30 GizmoPT wrote:
On May 14 2012 18:26 Snowbear wrote:
On May 14 2012 18:26 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 14 2012 18:21 Snowbear wrote:
On May 14 2012 17:28 sc2holar wrote:
On May 14 2012 16:15 jeffvip wrote:
What do you called a people who are playing an OP race, keep whinning and cannot accept the truth?





A Protoss Player!




Seriously, what did Protoss did wrong in the early life that he deserve this kind of attitude player playing his race now?

ps: I'm just telling the truth, have to ps here first b4 ban incoming...


Are you sure youre not talking about the race who won 50% of all GSL tournaments yet still cries like babies when theyre not completly dominating like they are used to do?


That's 1 tournament. Besides the 5 korean terran gods (mvp, polt, mma, mkp and alive/jakji), every other terran (except thorzain and select) is suffering hard. High master / grandmaster terrans are suffering hard too.


What the hell are you talking about 'suffering hard'. Thorzain just won Dreamhack!


Like I said, EXCEPT thorzain and select!


"all terrans are bad expect the good ones" nice argument :p


No, what I mean is that people should stop looking at those few terrans that dominate. Everyone besides them is having a really really hard time.

So what your suggesting is buff terrans so the bad ones can be good too ?)
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 14 2012 09:50 GMT
#1185
On May 14 2012 18:36 Alexstrasas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 17:28 sc2holar wrote:
On May 14 2012 16:15 jeffvip wrote:
What do you called a people who are playing an OP race, keep whinning and cannot accept the truth?





A Protoss Player!




Seriously, what did Protoss did wrong in the early life that he deserve this kind of attitude player playing his race now?

ps: I'm just telling the truth, have to ps here first b4 ban incoming...


Are you sure youre not talking about the race who won 50% of all GSL tournaments yet still cries like babies when theyre not completly dominating like they are used to do?


I never understood why people are so obsessed with the GSL regarding balance. You have a very small pool of the best players around, its a nonsense to analyze it statistically for serious reasons. I guess people expect blizzard to bend the game so that the players of all races, no matter skill, equally win GSL´s ?
Another think that GLS "statistics guys" seem to forget is that there are like 2-3 notable protoss players while there are 7+ terrans.
Terrans have been consistently dominating the GSL on all levels, not just by having 6 of the 10 winners. GomTvT etc.

But of course, it's never clear if balance at the top isn't about particular players at the top being op, rather than their race.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
May 14 2012 10:12 GMT
#1186
Lucifron and Thorzain had a TvT finalø in the SCAN inv. this weekend, Lucifron didnt drop a single map whole tourney.

I rarely meet any T on ladder tho, but the few ones I meet I always lose to
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
May 14 2012 10:31 GMT
#1187
On May 14 2012 19:12 Atoissen wrote:
Lucifron and Thorzain had a TvT finalø in the SCAN inv. this weekend, Lucifron didnt drop a single map whole tourney.

I rarely meet any T on ladder tho, but the few ones I meet I always lose to


Lucifron and Thorzain where much better than everybody else there, apart from Polt who is Terran as well. It's like saying Zerg is imba because Stephano beats every foreigner.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 11:07:55
May 14 2012 11:03 GMT
#1188
Terran has the most players that master the race. Protoss just now are making their kings. MC is the only one that is a proven toss king. Zerg also has a few, but much less than terrans.

I can't even comprehend how Terran still complain being the weakest when every data we have points the other way. EVERY DATA!
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
May 14 2012 11:07 GMT
#1189
On May 14 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
Terran has the most players that master the race. Protoss just now are making their kings. MC is the only one that is a proven toss king. Zerg also has a few, but much less than terrans.

I can't even comprehend how Terran still complain being the weakest when every data we have point the other way. EVERY DATA!


Well all data except the most recent with the most up to date balancing via patches. I guess that isn't as important as how Terran did in the past?
KT FlaSh FOREVER
bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
May 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#1190
There are around 10 days left until Pro League Season 2. How do you plan on preparing?
I intend on preparing for Starcraft 2 as much as possible. My schedule is so packed lately. I'm concerned about the lack of practice time.


Is this the pro league that is integrating SC2 and BW or is that later? If it is, will it be streamed free or a GSL type scenario(free low quality stream)
http://steamcommunity.com/id/unipolarity/inventory/
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 11:26:15
May 14 2012 11:23 GMT
#1191
On May 14 2012 20:07 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
Terran has the most players that master the race. Protoss just now are making their kings. MC is the only one that is a proven toss king. Zerg also has a few, but much less than terrans.

I can't even comprehend how Terran still complain being the weakest when every data we have point the other way. EVERY DATA!


Well all data except the most recent with the most up to date balancing via patches. I guess that isn't as important as how Terran did in the past?


Recent data:

Thorzaine wins DH.

MVP in GSL finals.

Lucifron wins Scan in a tvt with Thorzaine.

MMA wins Iron squid.

But oh noes, it's the first month that Terran falls in the overall win ratio statistics under 50%. Something must be done. You are so used to be on top and call that balance.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
May 14 2012 11:32 GMT
#1192
Aw. You guys are killing me. I kept seeing this thread bumped and I thought there might be new cool info, but it's just people balance whining. Buzzkill.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
May 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#1193
On May 14 2012 20:23 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 20:07 Lunareste wrote:
On May 14 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
Terran has the most players that master the race. Protoss just now are making their kings. MC is the only one that is a proven toss king. Zerg also has a few, but much less than terrans.

I can't even comprehend how Terran still complain being the weakest when every data we have point the other way. EVERY DATA!


Well all data except the most recent with the most up to date balancing via patches. I guess that isn't as important as how Terran did in the past?


Recent data:

Thorzaine wins DH.

MVP in GSL finals.

Lucifron wins Scan in a tvt with Thorzaine.

MMA wins Iron squid.

But oh noes, it's the first month that Terran falls in the overall win ratio statistics under 50%. Something must be done. You are so used to be on top and call that balance.

I never understand this. A handful of obviously awesome players play Terran. We know who they are, and it's quite obvious that they are tip-top players. If any of them make it to the finals of a tournament, nobody is the least bit surprised. But, somehow, with all this established skill, their wins are diminished by balance idiots who insist they win because they play Terran. They would rather see players like Hero, Parting, and Zenio replace half of them, even though their play isn't even close in terms of consistency and outright skill.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 14 2012 11:53 GMT
#1194
On May 14 2012 20:49 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 20:23 ceaRshaf wrote:
On May 14 2012 20:07 Lunareste wrote:
On May 14 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
Terran has the most players that master the race. Protoss just now are making their kings. MC is the only one that is a proven toss king. Zerg also has a few, but much less than terrans.

I can't even comprehend how Terran still complain being the weakest when every data we have point the other way. EVERY DATA!


Well all data except the most recent with the most up to date balancing via patches. I guess that isn't as important as how Terran did in the past?


Recent data:

Thorzaine wins DH.

MVP in GSL finals.

Lucifron wins Scan in a tvt with Thorzaine.

MMA wins Iron squid.

But oh noes, it's the first month that Terran falls in the overall win ratio statistics under 50%. Something must be done. You are so used to be on top and call that balance.

I never understand this. A handful of obviously awesome players play Terran. We know who they are, and it's quite obvious that they are tip-top players. If any of them make it to the finals of a tournament, nobody is the least bit surprised. But, somehow, with all this established skill, their wins are diminished by balance idiots who insist they win because they play Terran. They would rather see players like Hero, Parting, and Zenio replace half of them, even though their play isn't even close in terms of consistency and outright skill.


Don't know what you tried to say but I didn't say that they win because they play terran but that TERRAN PLAYERS DO WIN. Huge difference.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
May 14 2012 11:55 GMT
#1195
there is a possibility that they win because they are better players, and not because the game is balanced
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 14 2012 11:56 GMT
#1196
God tells you this and you accept. It will be easier on your psyche before he destroys everyone.
Stork[gm]
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 14 2012 11:56 GMT
#1197
On May 14 2012 20:32 See.Blue wrote:
Aw. You guys are killing me. I kept seeing this thread bumped and I thought there might be new cool info, but it's just people balance whining. Buzzkill.


same here. So pissed. We have the best hype thread from the BW heroes in ages and all we hear is about balance.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
A x i o M
Profile Joined March 2011
United States78 Posts
May 14 2012 11:56 GMT
#1198
Can we all just stop with the pointless balance talk and be excited about the God of Starcraft coming to SC2? Please.

Flash! <3
"Get thee to a nunnery...dick." -Day[9] | "Sup son." -SelecT | “If anyone ever doubts your passion towards eSports, tell them you were here in 2011 at Blizzcon and watched the GSL Finals. Thank you very much. I love you all.” -Jun Kyu Park
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 14 2012 11:57 GMT
#1199
On May 14 2012 20:56 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 20:32 See.Blue wrote:
Aw. You guys are killing me. I kept seeing this thread bumped and I thought there might be new cool info, but it's just people balance whining. Buzzkill.


same here. So pissed. We have the best hype thread from the BW heroes in ages and all we hear is about balance.

They are just misinterpreting the divine word.
Stork[gm]
BrandFilt
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden57 Posts
May 14 2012 11:59 GMT
#1200
The difference between a person playing T and a person playing P or Z is that the T will probably be ranked lower as the other races are more forgiving and doesn't require you to pressure the oppenent and micro.
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