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On May 14 2012 22:50 purecarnagge wrote:
Where will the sc2 proleague vods be available at?
Will they be casted in english?
I dont' know much about BW other than Flash is the super soldier, So I'm really excited to see how the BW Pro's do.
GL to flash!
There won't be any english cast at first but it should be done later during the season. VODs and streams are always available on ESPORTTV Youtube channel and several other members of the community live cast / upload vods of proleague. Btw for your information, although it is true that Flash was the best BW player last season, people seem to forget other huge name like Fantasy, Soulkey, Jaedong, Stork, Bisu etc etc. Flash is only one of BW super soldier 
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I already know he is going to play Terran in SC2. But wish he would play Zerg since so many are leaving Z for T and P
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protoss is too powerfull T_T im toss and im sad to hear this from god, i must disagree T.T toss in starcraft 2 without warpgate is dead, however, if they somehow balance the patch to make toss more of a micro oriented style instead of this really slow turtle style then i think it would be a really good race.
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On May 15 2012 00:55 Diabulus wrote:
protoss is too powerfull T_T im toss and im sad to hear this from god, i must disagree T.T toss in starcraft 2 without warpgate is dead, however, if they somehow balance the patch to make toss more of a micro oriented style instead of this really slow turtle style then i think it would be a really good race.
It's the opinion of one guy who has played SC2 for like a month. Don't take it as gospel, because it's not. Far from it.
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On May 14 2012 18:34 Snowbear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 18:30 GizmoPT wrote:On May 14 2012 18:26 Snowbear wrote:On May 14 2012 18:26 tomatriedes wrote:On May 14 2012 18:21 Snowbear wrote:On May 14 2012 17:28 sc2holar wrote:On May 14 2012 16:15 jeffvip wrote:
What do you called a people who are playing an OP race, keep whinning and cannot accept the truth?
A Protoss Player!
Seriously, what did Protoss did wrong in the early life that he deserve this kind of attitude player playing his race now?
ps: I'm just telling the truth, have to ps here first b4 ban incoming... Are you sure youre not talking about the race who won 50% of all GSL tournaments yet still cries like babies when theyre not completly dominating like they are used to do? That's 1 tournament. Besides the 5 korean terran gods (mvp, polt, mma, mkp and alive/jakji), every other terran (except thorzain and select) is suffering hard. High master / grandmaster terrans are suffering hard too. What the hell are you talking about 'suffering hard'. Thorzain just won Dreamhack! Like I said, EXCEPT thorzain and select! "all terrans are bad expect the good ones" nice argument :p No, what I mean is that people should stop looking at those few terrans that dominate. Everyone besides them is having a really really hard time.
Then those terrans that are having a hard time should practice harder or stop complaining. I'm a terran and I'm bad, that's why I lose, what about you?
The same thing can be said about terran in BW. Only 3 unique terrans have won any SLs since 2008 the rest just aren't good.
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On May 14 2012 21:15 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 21:10 Hypemeup wrote:On May 14 2012 21:00 memcpy wrote:On May 14 2012 20:49 aksfjh wrote:On May 14 2012 20:23 ceaRshaf wrote:On May 14 2012 20:07 Lunareste wrote:On May 14 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
Terran has the most players that master the race. Protoss just now are making their kings. MC is the only one that is a proven toss king. Zerg also has a few, but much less than terrans.
I can't even comprehend how Terran still complain being the weakest when every data we have point the other way. EVERY DATA! Well all data except the most recent with the most up to date balancing via patches. I guess that isn't as important as how Terran did in the past? Recent data: Thorzaine wins DH. MVP in GSL finals. Lucifron wins Scan in a tvt with Thorzaine. MMA wins Iron squid. But oh noes, it's the first month that Terran falls in the overall win ratio statistics under 50%. Something must be done. You are so used to be on top and call that balance. I never understand this. A handful of obviously awesome players play Terran. We know who they are, and it's quite obvious that they are tip-top players. If any of them make it to the finals of a tournament, nobody is the least bit surprised. But, somehow, with all this established skill, their wins are diminished by balance idiots who insist they win because they play Terran. They would rather see players like Hero, Parting, and Zenio replace half of them, even though their play isn't even close in terms of consistency and outright skill. Did you ever consider that consistency may have more to do with the race than the group of players who play that race? Maybe it has to do with being more reactive and having less map vision? Perhaps there's a reason why blizzard focused on improving scouting for zerg and protoss rather than buffing an attacking unit (queen doesn't really count). He is talking about consistency of play. This. They make bad decisions or micro/macro poorly more often than their Terran counterpart.
IOW the same there are more/better Terran players argument, despite the ladder statistics showing completely otherwise.
On May 15 2012 00:43 sM.Zik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 22:50 purecarnagge wrote:
Where will the sc2 proleague vods be available at?
Will they be casted in english?
I dont' know much about BW other than Flash is the super soldier, So I'm really excited to see how the BW Pro's do.
GL to flash! There won't be any english cast at first but it should be done later during the season. VODs and streams are always available on ESPORTTV Youtube channel and several other members of the community live cast / upload vods of proleague. Btw for your information, although it is true that Flash was the best BW player last season, people seem to forget other huge name like Fantasy, Soulkey, Jaedong, Stork, Bisu etc etc. Flash is only one of BW super soldier
I thought moletrap is going to cast?
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On May 15 2012 01:00 ppdealer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 00:43 sM.Zik wrote:On May 14 2012 22:50 purecarnagge wrote:
Where will the sc2 proleague vods be available at?
Will they be casted in english?
I dont' know much about BW other than Flash is the super soldier, So I'm really excited to see how the BW Pro's do.
GL to flash! There won't be any english cast at first but it should be done later during the season. VODs and streams are always available on ESPORTTV Youtube channel and several other members of the community live cast / upload vods of proleague. Btw for your information, although it is true that Flash was the best BW player last season, people seem to forget other huge name like Fantasy, Soulkey, Jaedong, Stork, Bisu etc etc. Flash is only one of BW super soldier I thought moletrap is going to cast?
The question is whether there will be an official english cast. If not, I expect some casters to hijack the event and offer their own cast. Or at least I hope that will be the case.
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Can you please stop taking Flash's opinion about Protoss for 100% accurate? I don't care how good Flash is, MOST of pro gamers are (a bit) biased. Let me give you examples:
IdrA: Terran and Protoss OP
Jangbi (I'm not entirely sure if it was him indeed, but it's one of good BW protosses who wanted to switch to Terran): Terran is strong
Flash: Protoss is OP
MC: Protoss is UP
Alicia: Protoss is UP, we need patch
Thorzain (tweeter): queen imba/strong
TT1: Zerg OP (regarding queen buff)
Nestea (if I remember correct, last year he said): Zerg UP
etc.
Stop believing in pro gamers. They will almost never say their race is too good/good enough. Yes, there are a few cases, but that's so few compared to "my race is UP or X race is OP".
Edit: Also, let me remind you that Flash has played the game for about a month. He also said he might have pretended to say some things.
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IMO warpgate should be removed and the only warp in should be warprism. Why is warpgate in SC2 to begin with? No warpage would probably make PvP better as well.
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On May 15 2012 02:00 Shadow_Dog wrote:
IMO warpgate should be removed and the only warp in should be warprism. Why is warpgate in SC2 to begin with? No warpage would probably make PvP better as well.
I prefer coin flips over mass colossi tbh.
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Most unpredictable answers ever... lol
I became so happy about the recent news... I feel sorry about the BW guys who can't watch more BW matches. But I think it's the right time to try something new. It was the last push SC2 needed to become a great game!
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On May 15 2012 02:00 Shadow_Dog wrote:
IMO warpgate should be removed and the only warp in should be warprism. Why is warpgate in SC2 to begin with? No warpage would probably make PvP better as well.
i think this is a really good idea
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On May 15 2012 00:56 IPA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 00:55 Diabulus wrote:
protoss is too powerfull T_T im toss and im sad to hear this from god, i must disagree T.T toss in starcraft 2 without warpgate is dead, however, if they somehow balance the patch to make toss more of a micro oriented style instead of this really slow turtle style then i think it would be a really good race. It's the opinion of one GOD who has played SC2 for like a month. Take it as gospel, because it is. I love FLash.
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Nah protoss is not OP at all...u just need to learn to max out in like 12 minutes vs them...im sure it's a pice of cake for everyone...i mean Stephano can do it...so it shoud be easy for everyone...at least blizzard think's so...
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Please join the protoss. Fight to reclaim Aiur!!!!!
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On May 15 2012 02:00 Shadow_Dog wrote:
IMO warpgate should be removed and the only warp in should be warprism. Why is warpgate in SC2 to begin with? No warpage would probably make PvP better as well.
people talked about this earlier and came down to a basic conclusino
blizzard wants warpgates. Therefore we have to suffer warpgates.
I am a long time fan that the reason protoss switches between UP and OP so much is that the people have to balance around warpgates. At first, gate units are weak as hell compared to other tier 1 units, then they get super strong as tech goes on. This is what led to the deathball syndrome. Then people found ways to use the warpgate to their advantage, so they had to nerf the units and the warpgate effectively.
pretty much a bunch of shit happened that if they hadn't made warpgates part of the game and found another kind of feature (like tech that sped up unit production from gates maybe) would have been so much better. As it is now, protoss is balanced around warpgates, not around their units.
Zerg is somewhat balanced around larva, but not as heavily. Terran is the only race that is actually balanced around their units, not around their gimmicky feature.
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Flash hasn't played Starcraft II much and he hasn't watched any VODs. His balance ideas make sense from his point of experience. He'll thing different when he's more into the game.
But my god, can't wait to see Flash play in top shape!
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On May 12 2012 02:46 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 02:43 Valikyr wrote:On May 12 2012 02:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:On May 12 2012 02:30 Valikyr wrote:
Why do u like bio Flash, whyyyyy? Probably because he's realized that Terran Bio is one of the best scaling unit compositions when it comes to speed and control. It's much easier for him to learn the mechanics and get fast with bio than it is for him to develop the same starsense he had in Brood War and be able to make the crucial decisions that playing mech forces in some situations. Yeah I wasn't serious but I'm still waiting for the day when someone figures out how to play mech TvP properly and the crying about how t1 units have a hard time against a protoss t3 army stops. It's really almost impossible because the Immortal hardcounters any sort of mech based play.
not really becouse ghost and banshees should be part of the mech army, and if u get a critical mass of tanks hardend shields doesnt matter.
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On May 15 2012 02:05 zezamer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 02:00 Shadow_Dog wrote:
IMO warpgate should be removed and the only warp in should be warprism. Why is warpgate in SC2 to begin with? No warpage would probably make PvP better as well. I prefer coin flips over mass colossi tbh.
Shouldn't we strive to eliminate both? False dichotomy.
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On May 15 2012 01:17 darkness wrote:
Can you please stop taking Flash's opinion about Protoss for 100% accurate? I don't care how good Flash is, MOST of pro gamers are (a bit) biased. Let me give you examples:
IdrA: Terran and Protoss OP
Jangbi (I'm not entirely sure if it was him indeed, but it's one of good BW protosses who wanted to switch to Terran): Terran is strong
Flash: Protoss is OP
MC: Protoss is UP
Alicia: Protoss is UP, we need patch
Thorzain (tweeter): queen imba/strong
TT1: Zerg OP (regarding queen buff)
Nestea (if I remember correct, last year he said): Zerg UP
etc.
Stop believing in pro gamers. They will almost never say their race is too good/good enough. Yes, there are a few cases, but that's so few compared to "my race is UP or X race is OP".
Edit: Also, let me remind you that Flash has played the game for about a month. He also said he might have pretended to say some things.
Wait, each pro player had different feelings on balance? When did this happen? So your telling me that Flash is not the be all, end off, of balance discussions? Or that BW players may have habits that do not serve them well in SC2 and it may require more than one month to deal with them?
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