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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 20

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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 11 2012 10:54 GMT
#381
On May 11 2012 19:47 ggrrg wrote:
June 9 - The day TBLS started to stomp foreigners!

They started to stomp foreigners years ago at WCG.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
SamsLiST
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany184 Posts
May 11 2012 10:55 GMT
#382
zezamer Finland. May 11 2012 19:31. Posts 568 Profile #
On May 11 2012 19:23 Xpace wrote:
Nice. Europe needs to do something now!


They can provide the foreign players.


"\(O^O)/" so true
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 11 2012 10:55 GMT
#383
On May 11 2012 19:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 19:47 ggrrg wrote:
June 9 - The day TBLS started to stomp foreigners!


lawl, when will you guys understand that they will never be good in SC2, until they stop playing BW...

But they are supposed to be good at multitasking !
Stork[gm]
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
May 11 2012 10:55 GMT
#384
This is the best news ever!
BSOD
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 11 2012 10:58 GMT
#385
Its not the worst thing in the world for it to be MLG/Proleague vs GSL/IPL/DH at the highest level, it would create ample opportunity for many progamers to have success, and the competition would be fierce.

Just dont stop them participating in online leagues or everything will die out

Seems bad news for smaller LAN's too
Useless wet fish.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
May 11 2012 10:58 GMT
#386
On May 11 2012 19:55 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
This is the best news ever!


Why is it the best news ever?
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
May 11 2012 10:59 GMT
#387
But... I want Flash in Europe
Lohse
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark237 Posts
May 11 2012 11:00 GMT
#388
On May 11 2012 19:53 Gladiator333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 19:42 zaii wrote:
On May 11 2012 19:40 Dodgin wrote:
On May 11 2012 19:33 Alexj wrote:
No chance of seeing Flash at the next IEM Kiev?

Well, shit


If this exclusivity deal really happens I feel bad for all the European fans that will never get to see their favorite BW pro-gamers in person.


Sundance tweeted a couple days ago there might be an IEM partnership, So expect something with that.


Let's hope there is!

There have also been a tweet or 2 bewteen Dreamhack robert and Sundance.
misspo
Profile Joined March 2012
France28 Posts
May 11 2012 11:09 GMT
#389
The big problem now is how structures will earn money if they don't win tournement anymore?
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 11:13:11
May 11 2012 11:10 GMT
#390
On May 11 2012 19:33 Alexj wrote:
No chance of seeing Flash at the next IEM Kiev?

Well, shit


People are acting like every single top Korean goes to every foreign tournament, and now this deal is in place everything will change. Well, sorry, but most events only get a handful of current top koreans. The way it stands... you won't lose anything... Nothing changes for any tournament. MLG get's flash etc but is Kespa the whole scene? No. Are Kespa players going to be amazing right now? No.

I'd say the majority of real SC2 fans watch MLG anyway. If not there are other tournaments to watch and they will be successful.

If exclusivity happened with the GSL players i'd be more worried. In fact we have reason to be worried when there are just multiple exclusive deals all over the place. Right now? No. Oh and on top of that, if people who love foreign tournaments such as DH, IEM, ETC MUST watch Kespa players but dislike MLG... Then you can watch Flash etc on Proleague or OGN SC2 league. Solution for you.
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
May 11 2012 11:15 GMT
#391
If this deal restricts players in Kespa teams participating in mlg events only this is bad.
stuff & things
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 11:18 GMT
#392
People need to stop wasting their time listening to anything Zealot Orgy says.

On May 11 2012 19:23 Xpace wrote:
Nice. Europe needs to do something now!


European tournaments have always lagged way behind the US tournaments in terms of ambition and marketing. The production for Dreamhack and IEM are fine (especially Dreamhack) but the player pools have always been bad because unlike MLG and IPL they don't actively chase the best players in the world and thus they are always worse tournaments from a pure comeptitive stand point than MLG and IPL.

Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 11 2012 11:18 GMT
#393
On May 11 2012 20:10 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 19:33 Alexj wrote:
No chance of seeing Flash at the next IEM Kiev?

Well, shit


People are acting like every single top Korean goes to every foreign tournament, and now this deal is in place everything will change. Well, sorry, but most events only get a handful of current top koreans. The way it stands... you won't lose anything... Nothing changes for any tournament. MLG get's flash etc but is Kespa the whole scene? No. Are Kespa players going to be amazing right now? No.

I'd say the majority of real SC2 fans watch MLG anyway. If not there are other tournaments to watch and they will be successful.

If exclusivity happened with the GSL players i'd be more worried. In fact we have reason to be worried when there are just multiple exclusive deals all over the place. Right now? No. Oh and on top of that, if people who love foreign tournaments such as DH, IEM, ETC MUST watch Kespa players but dislike MLG... Then you can watch Flash etc on Proleague or OGN SC2 league. Solution for you.


How is that a solution when the poster obviously wanted to meet Flash in person and is upset that it might be impossible with an exclusivity deal?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 11:19 GMT
#394
On May 11 2012 20:15 6BiT wrote:
If this deal restricts players in Kespa teams participating in mlg events only this is bad.


Why? There's only so many hours in a week and BW players have Pro League, MLG, OSL and in future GSL's as well as hours upon hours of practice.

They can't be travelling every week to other tournaments.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 11:20 GMT
#395
On May 11 2012 20:18 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 20:10 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 11 2012 19:33 Alexj wrote:
No chance of seeing Flash at the next IEM Kiev?

Well, shit


People are acting like every single top Korean goes to every foreign tournament, and now this deal is in place everything will change. Well, sorry, but most events only get a handful of current top koreans. The way it stands... you won't lose anything... Nothing changes for any tournament. MLG get's flash etc but is Kespa the whole scene? No. Are Kespa players going to be amazing right now? No.

I'd say the majority of real SC2 fans watch MLG anyway. If not there are other tournaments to watch and they will be successful.

If exclusivity happened with the GSL players i'd be more worried. In fact we have reason to be worried when there are just multiple exclusive deals all over the place. Right now? No. Oh and on top of that, if people who love foreign tournaments such as DH, IEM, ETC MUST watch Kespa players but dislike MLG... Then you can watch Flash etc on Proleague or OGN SC2 league. Solution for you.


How is that a solution when the poster obviously wanted to meet Flash in person and is upset that it might be impossible with an exclusivity deal?


Flash was never ever going to miss pro league/practice to make $6k dollars from an IEM (assuming he wins) with a $1500 travel costs.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 11 2012 11:21 GMT
#396
On May 11 2012 18:16 DreamOen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 18:13 niilzon wrote:
Please excuse me for my unawareness, as I really don't have the time to read a few comments :
does that mean that player appareances like Flash or JaeDong for sc2 are possible, if those players are selected ?
Thanks for the info!

Means that , and also a lot of other things. based on waxangel translation we may have something like the FIFA a world wife governing body for e-sports.

Oh shit I want a world wife with a governing body!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 11 2012 11:24 GMT
#397
On May 11 2012 20:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 20:18 Dodgin wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:10 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 11 2012 19:33 Alexj wrote:
No chance of seeing Flash at the next IEM Kiev?

Well, shit


People are acting like every single top Korean goes to every foreign tournament, and now this deal is in place everything will change. Well, sorry, but most events only get a handful of current top koreans. The way it stands... you won't lose anything... Nothing changes for any tournament. MLG get's flash etc but is Kespa the whole scene? No. Are Kespa players going to be amazing right now? No.

I'd say the majority of real SC2 fans watch MLG anyway. If not there are other tournaments to watch and they will be successful.

If exclusivity happened with the GSL players i'd be more worried. In fact we have reason to be worried when there are just multiple exclusive deals all over the place. Right now? No. Oh and on top of that, if people who love foreign tournaments such as DH, IEM, ETC MUST watch Kespa players but dislike MLG... Then you can watch Flash etc on Proleague or OGN SC2 league. Solution for you.


How is that a solution when the poster obviously wanted to meet Flash in person and is upset that it might be impossible with an exclusivity deal?


Flash was never ever going to miss pro league/practice to make $6k dollars from an IEM (assuming he wins) with a $1500 travel costs.


I won't argue with that, It's still a sad situation though.

Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 11:26 GMT
#398
On May 11 2012 20:24 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 20:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:18 Dodgin wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:10 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 11 2012 19:33 Alexj wrote:
No chance of seeing Flash at the next IEM Kiev?

Well, shit


People are acting like every single top Korean goes to every foreign tournament, and now this deal is in place everything will change. Well, sorry, but most events only get a handful of current top koreans. The way it stands... you won't lose anything... Nothing changes for any tournament. MLG get's flash etc but is Kespa the whole scene? No. Are Kespa players going to be amazing right now? No.

I'd say the majority of real SC2 fans watch MLG anyway. If not there are other tournaments to watch and they will be successful.

If exclusivity happened with the GSL players i'd be more worried. In fact we have reason to be worried when there are just multiple exclusive deals all over the place. Right now? No. Oh and on top of that, if people who love foreign tournaments such as DH, IEM, ETC MUST watch Kespa players but dislike MLG... Then you can watch Flash etc on Proleague or OGN SC2 league. Solution for you.


How is that a solution when the poster obviously wanted to meet Flash in person and is upset that it might be impossible with an exclusivity deal?


Flash was never ever going to miss pro league/practice to make $6k dollars from an IEM (assuming he wins) with a $1500 travel costs.


I won't argue with that, It's still a sad situation though.



I don't think it is. They will have extremely tight schedule's so the fact we're seeing them at all is almost a bonus (as is the fact they're switching in the first place) and if they have to attend one tournament most people would agree that MLG is the biggest and best foreign tournament. It's also a tournament rammed full of GSL players so we will get to see them play vs GOM players after Anaheim.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
May 11 2012 11:27 GMT
#399
On May 11 2012 20:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 20:24 Dodgin wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:18 Dodgin wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:10 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 11 2012 19:33 Alexj wrote:
No chance of seeing Flash at the next IEM Kiev?

Well, shit


People are acting like every single top Korean goes to every foreign tournament, and now this deal is in place everything will change. Well, sorry, but most events only get a handful of current top koreans. The way it stands... you won't lose anything... Nothing changes for any tournament. MLG get's flash etc but is Kespa the whole scene? No. Are Kespa players going to be amazing right now? No.

I'd say the majority of real SC2 fans watch MLG anyway. If not there are other tournaments to watch and they will be successful.

If exclusivity happened with the GSL players i'd be more worried. In fact we have reason to be worried when there are just multiple exclusive deals all over the place. Right now? No. Oh and on top of that, if people who love foreign tournaments such as DH, IEM, ETC MUST watch Kespa players but dislike MLG... Then you can watch Flash etc on Proleague or OGN SC2 league. Solution for you.


How is that a solution when the poster obviously wanted to meet Flash in person and is upset that it might be impossible with an exclusivity deal?


Flash was never ever going to miss pro league/practice to make $6k dollars from an IEM (assuming he wins) with a $1500 travel costs.


I won't argue with that, It's still a sad situation though.



I don't think it is. They will have extremely tight schedule's so the fact we're seeing them at all is almost a bonus (as is the fact they're switching in the first place) and if they have to attend one tournament most people would agree that MLG is the biggest and best foreign tournament. It's also a tournament rammed full of GSL players so we will get to see them play vs GOM players after Anaheim.

You're forgetting the other players though. I see no reason why the other ~100 progamers not named Flash that probably won't all be attending MLG's shouldn't be able to attend an IEM given they have time between matches. If it's exclusive (which is unsure since the Korean translation apparently leaves that part out) this binds all KeSPA players, not just the big names.
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
May 11 2012 11:28 GMT
#400
I dont see how any sort of restriction to natural player movement (which means their coaches/teams have the say ONLY) is not bad.
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