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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 21
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bocanegra
Portugal1 Post
i hope that SC2 becomes even better.. All the best for everyone.. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: People need to stop wasting their time listening to anything Zealot Orgy says. European tournaments have always lagged way behind the US tournaments in terms of ambition and marketing. The production for Dreamhack and IEM are fine (especially Dreamhack) but the player pools have always been bad because unlike MLG and IPL they don't actively chase the best players in the world and thus they are always worse tournaments from a pure comeptitive stand point than MLG and IPL. Thats why we (europe) have players and the NA has Destiny and the rest of the merry band of e-celebrities. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:28 NightOfTheDead wrote: I dont see how any sort of restriction to natural player movement (which means their coaches/teams have the say ONLY) is not bad. Because the deal is presumably that MLG are forking out for travel costs, as well as they're avoiding schedule conflicts. The reason Dreamhack and IEM don't have many (if any) top players at their events is because they don't pay full stipends to players. Most players won't travel cross continent for low prize pools like Dreamhack and IEM offer at most of their events. This isn't a situation where by KESPA player were going to attend everything and now KESPA says they can only attend MLG's, it's a situation where they were attending nothing outside of Korea and now thanks to MLG opening their wallets they will attend some foreign events. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:29 Frankon wrote: Thats why we (europe) have players and the NA has Destiny and the rest of the merry band of e-celebrities. That's not really the reason. Whichever Koreans do attend EU lan's usually win them. Huk alone (an NA player) has won almost as many premier EU lan's (with Koreans in attendence) as Europeans have. | ||
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dextrin303
Sweden320 Posts
 Moar koreans in MLG is always a good thing. | ||
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phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
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Kuni
Austria765 Posts
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Because the deal is presumably that MLG are forking out for travel costs, as well as they're avoiding schedule conflicts. The reason Dreamhack and IEM don't have many (if any) top players at their events is because they don't pay full stipends to players. Most players won't travel cross continent for low prize pools like Dreamhack and IEM offer at most of their events. This isn't a situation where by KESPA player were going to attend everything and now KESPA says they can only attend MLG's, it's a situation where they were attending nothing outside of Korea and now thanks to MLG opening their wallets they will attend some foreign events. I think its better than fighting for peanuts while having their trip paid. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:36 Frankon wrote: I think its better than fighting for peanuts while having their trip paid. Except that tournament doesn't exist anymore because MLG now have bigger prize pools and paid trips. Not to mention that on SOTG all the players disagreed with you and said stipends are better than prize pools. So evidently, you're wrong, it's not better. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On May 11 2012 18:38 Josh_rakoons wrote: I highly doubt it's as cut-throat as you think it is, Hrrrrm. See I initially thought it wasn't as cutthroat but, then Sundance tweeted this. There is no point in running a business like MLG and pouring in as much money as they are if it isn't cutthroat. I just hope that people stopping believing them on the whole MLG=eSports and the crying of poverty. MLG=MLG and nothing else. Everyone that believed that garbage was played like a fiddle since I highly doubt Kespa is signing an exclusive deal and not getting some type of monetary gain. MLG needs Kespa more than Kespa needs MLG since the BW Pro's could show up to any event, even a local $100 LAN and it would get monster views. Kespa doesn't need MLG for anything "exclusively" yet they are doing it. This is all in MLG's best interest because they are hoping to deprive other tournaments of talent and in something like SC2 talent is what makes/breaks a tournament. Which was MLG's problem right from the beginning when they didn't have any Koreans attending their events. I'm just glad D3 is literally around the corner and I won't be as invested in following the SC2 scene since I'll be watching from an arm's length come May 15th. Be careful what you wish for. On May 11 2012 20:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Because the deal is presumably that MLG are forking out for travel costs, as well as they're avoiding schedule conflicts. The reason Dreamhack and IEM don't have many (if any) top players at their events is because they don't pay full stipends to players. Most players won't travel cross continent for low prize pools like Dreamhack and IEM offer at most of their events. This isn't a situation where by KESPA player were going to attend everything and now KESPA says they can only attend MLG's, it's a situation where they were attending nothing outside of Korea and now thanks to MLG opening their wallets they will attend some foreign events. I'm so glad you know what BW Pro players/teams were planning or not planning to do before they ever announced a single thing. This is a move by MLG to just get a strangle hold on Kespa talent. That is all this is, nothing more and nothing less. Are you aware that now even if Kespa players wanted to attend some events in the months when they are out of the playoff running in Proleague they just can't? That means they are basically at MLG's mercy even if other events are being held and the BW Pro's are doing nothing. Stop being short sighted. | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
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nicotn
Netherlands186 Posts
On May 11 2012 17:28 Zealos wrote: Honestly, I don't think MLG would want to "Force" the bw pro's from only playing in their tournaments. Considering the way the community can react to what they perceive at wrong, it seems like it would be a poor business choice on their part. It's already happening. | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 20:28 NightOfTheDead wrote: I dont see how any sort of restriction to natural player movement (which means their coaches/teams have the say ONLY) is not bad. This isn't a situation where by KESPA player were going to attend everything and now KESPA says they can only attend MLG's, it's a situation where they were attending nothing outside of Korea and now thanks to MLG opening their wallets they will attend some foreign events. Why is there a presumption that they would not attend anything outside of Korea. Sure players of Flash caliber wont for many reasons, but other players, who would not participate in televised matches (for that period of time), but still are on the teams, could. Those players just never had such practice to do so. But such agreements close the doors for any kind of interraction for those lesser BW players. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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SEA KarMa
Australia452 Posts
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
no it's not. Waxangel translated the korean article and there is nothing mentioning it. | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:53 turdburgler wrote: so no one cares anymore about the horror stories of how kespa have acted over the years and just because of the money they may bring in to the scene we are gonna shower them with praise? ;/ Hopefully its the start of a new era ^_^ | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:47 Kommander wrote: So I just read the official statement from the KeSPA side. I didn't read anything there about this partnership being exclusive. Can someone clarify? Might just be something lost in translation. "Exclusive" is a common PR stunt by MLG to sell there PPV passes... I think most other tournaments are waiting till 20th to see if its worthy to get the Kespa pros for their tournaments. | ||
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