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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 10

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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 07:17:20
May 11 2012 07:15 GMT
#181
On May 11 2012 16:11 Davis23 wrote:
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I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.


You think wrong!


OK. Then why MLG didn't sign an exclusive contract with GSL? You think "contract" means one party decides everything?
vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
May 11 2012 07:15 GMT
#182
isn't it too soon for kespa bw players to play tourneys, i mean they said it themselves there not ready, unless they've been trolling us -____________-
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NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
May 11 2012 07:17 GMT
#183
On May 11 2012 16:15 vik7 wrote:
isn't it too soon for kespa bw players to play tourneys, i mean they said it themselves there not ready, unless they've been trolling us -____________-


They're not playing in the MLG championships, they're playing in an exhibition tourney
DoubleDare
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada48 Posts
May 11 2012 07:18 GMT
#184
dunno whether to pee in excitement, vomit from nervousness, or cry from happiness.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 11 2012 07:18 GMT
#185
On May 11 2012 16:14 mireath wrote:
Shouldn't be to pessimistic as we don't know what "exclusive" means yet, but if KeSPA becomes the powerhouse in SC2 as it is in BW then it could be bad news.
If every decent Korean pro is signed with KeSPA, and the only foreign tourney they're allowed to enter is MLG, then that's pretty much GG for Dreamhack, NASL, IPL, HSC, Iron Squid and whatever. Great for MLG, terrible for the scene.

Last I checked, MLG doesn't hold tournaments every weekend of the year. There is still plenty of space for these tournaments to exist.
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xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
May 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#186
On May 11 2012 16:15 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:11 Davis23 wrote:
I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.


You think wrong!


OK. Then why MLG didn't sign a exclusive contract with GSL?

Maybe they tried? MLG also signed halo players to exclusivity, effectively killing off any competition since they weren't allowed to go to other tournaments.
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Rakett
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia10 Posts
May 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#187
so now we know why tastosis isnt at the mlg arena.
(because they're gom)
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 07:20:50
May 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#188
On May 11 2012 16:18 jmbthirteen wrote:
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On May 11 2012 16:14 mireath wrote:
Shouldn't be to pessimistic as we don't know what "exclusive" means yet, but if KeSPA becomes the powerhouse in SC2 as it is in BW then it could be bad news.
If every decent Korean pro is signed with KeSPA, and the only foreign tourney they're allowed to enter is MLG, then that's pretty much GG for Dreamhack, NASL, IPL, HSC, Iron Squid and whatever. Great for MLG, terrible for the scene.

Last I checked, MLG doesn't hold tournaments every weekend of the year. There is still plenty of space for these tournaments to exist.


that's funny because the past two MLG arenas have been on the same weekend as other tournaments...hmm..yeah room for everyone I guess.

On May 11 2012 16:19 Rakett wrote:
so now we know why tastosis isnt at the mlg arena.
(because they're gom)


No they aren't going to the spring arena because the GSL finals are on the same weekend and they have to be in Korea to do that, but you might be right that they won't do MLG anymore once this kicks in.
mireath
Profile Joined May 2011
30 Posts
May 11 2012 07:20 GMT
#189
On May 11 2012 16:18 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:14 mireath wrote:
Shouldn't be to pessimistic as we don't know what "exclusive" means yet, but if KeSPA becomes the powerhouse in SC2 as it is in BW then it could be bad news.
If every decent Korean pro is signed with KeSPA, and the only foreign tourney they're allowed to enter is MLG, then that's pretty much GG for Dreamhack, NASL, IPL, HSC, Iron Squid and whatever. Great for MLG, terrible for the scene.

Last I checked, MLG doesn't hold tournaments every weekend of the year. There is still plenty of space for these tournaments to exist.


My point was that they aren't quite as interesting if top Koreans aren't allowed to participate
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 11 2012 07:20 GMT
#190
On May 11 2012 16:19 xBillehx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:15 larse wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:11 Davis23 wrote:
I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.


You think wrong!


OK. Then why MLG didn't sign a exclusive contract with GSL?

Maybe they tried? MLG also signed halo players to exclusivity, effectively killing off any competition since they weren't allowed to go to other tournaments.


Really halo players couldn't play in any other tourneys only mlg? lol that's kind of retarded xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 11 2012 07:21 GMT
#191
On May 11 2012 16:19 Rakett wrote:
so now we know why tastosis isnt at the mlg arena.
(because they're gom)


Wolf is part of Gom
vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
May 11 2012 07:22 GMT
#192
On May 11 2012 16:17 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:15 vik7 wrote:
isn't it too soon for kespa bw players to play tourneys, i mean they said it themselves there not ready, unless they've been trolling us -____________-


They're not playing in the MLG championships, they're playing in an exhibition tourney

ooh ok thanks, that made me feel a little better, last thing i want is for legends like flash, bisu, jaedong etc, to be manhandled =(
NA player, go KT Flash, ST Life( ;( ) , IMMvp, EGJD, CMStorm Polt, SKT Rain, KT Zest, Bisu, RootherO, Stats and teamliqiud
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 11 2012 07:22 GMT
#193
On May 11 2012 16:18 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:14 mireath wrote:
Shouldn't be to pessimistic as we don't know what "exclusive" means yet, but if KeSPA becomes the powerhouse in SC2 as it is in BW then it could be bad news.
If every decent Korean pro is signed with KeSPA, and the only foreign tourney they're allowed to enter is MLG, then that's pretty much GG for Dreamhack, NASL, IPL, HSC, Iron Squid and whatever. Great for MLG, terrible for the scene.

Last I checked, MLG doesn't hold tournaments every weekend of the year. There is still plenty of space for these tournaments to exist.

But they have to exist without alot of the top end korean talent. We have already seen that tournements without the top Koreans produce significantly fewers stream views.

Thankfully gom teams/players are not under any exclusive deal so these tourneys will be fine for awhile
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 11 2012 07:23 GMT
#194
Looks like Flash is gonna be there from Sundances Tweet !!!!!!!!!!

DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
May 11 2012 07:23 GMT
#195
On May 11 2012 16:23 Tsubbi wrote:
Looks like Flash is gonna be there from Sundances Tweet !!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/#!/MLGSundance/status/200845945196392448
It shouldnt happen.
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dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
May 11 2012 07:24 GMT
#196
On May 11 2012 16:23 DreamOen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:23 Tsubbi wrote:
Looks like Flash is gonna be there from Sundances Tweet !!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/#!/MLGSundance/status/200845945196392448
It shouldnt happen.


Why not?
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
May 11 2012 07:25 GMT
#197
I'm glad they're not playing HotS, but I'm sad they won't be playing against any current SC2 pros. I wanted to see how they'd measure up against the current SC2 pros. Hopefully, however, the casters will be able to give us an estimation on how good they actually are
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 11 2012 07:25 GMT
#198
And so begins the global monopolization of eSports headed by MLG -_-
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
May 11 2012 07:26 GMT
#199
Omg. Omg. Omg. This is perfect. My friends and I had decided to drive down for MLG Spring championships for our first ever live/big SC2 event like a couple hours before they even announced this. Yesss!!! :D
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JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 07:28:03
May 11 2012 07:26 GMT
#200
On May 11 2012 15:46 JackDT wrote:
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On May 11 2012 15:43 IMNasty wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:38 JackDT wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:15 IMNasty wrote:
so exclusive partnership means no chance the players are allowed to go to DH, IPL, IEM, assembly etc.?


Wow, this news is a big bummer if so. The best part about the growing Starcraft community is seeing brand new tournaments emerge every year, each with its own style and atmosphere. Lone Star and Iron Squid. Homestory. Dreamhacks. NASL. So many different flavors and new ones popping up every week.

Can you imagine if the US. Open got 'exclusive' rights to Roger Federer? Very strange model.


sounds like MLG wanted to get the jump on the imminent new era of SC2 by securing the BW pros. not sure what to make of sundance's latest tweet


It seems like such an obviously bad idea for the long term health of the game that I still kinda doubt that what's they mean here. Sure, it gives you a short term boost relative to other tournaments perhaps. But that sort of insularity will hinder growth in the Starcraft community in the long term.

Maybe they just mean that Kespa players will always choose an MLG event any conflicting alternatives that weekend. It just seems nuts that they'd have players pretend the rest of the Starcraft world doesn't exist!


JP tweeted that big news was coming, and TL was going to blow up. An then the story came out and I was like, what? We all knew this coming, big deal.

But the exclusivity part is what he meant. That's a huge change to way we've always done SC2 stuff. Terrible IMO. I find myself suddenly hoping that open organizations like the GSL crush Kespa and MLG. And especially the homegrown stuff like LoneStar and Iron Squid.
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