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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 9

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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
May 11 2012 06:59 GMT
#161
Well, I just have to chime in as well. Good deal and I hope KeSPA does it right this time. I just really want to see the wall of "kespa players" go away like it is everywhere else. I hope this is a first step and It will be exciting to see who is coming to play.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
May 11 2012 06:59 GMT
#162
On May 11 2012 15:13 Integra wrote:
AMAZING NEWS

SO dammn nice that the whole Kespa vs the west bullshit finally is over! the SC community )includes Starcraft1, Broodwar and Starcraft2 is finally at peace!!


not quite yet still the battle rages on between BW fans and SC2 fans sadly i dont think they will ever come to peace
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
May 11 2012 06:59 GMT
#163
My FREAKING God, Kespa pros in MLG...
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 11 2012 06:59 GMT
#164
Goddamnit, usually I live near Anaheim, but I am out of the country right now. If Jaedong is playing Starcraft 2 at the Spring Tournament and I miss it...I do not know if I will cry or break shit. Or both.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 11 2012 07:01 GMT
#165
I just hope MLG up their production a bit for this. I love MLG but their award ceremonies are always horrible and awkward. Please learn a thing or two from Dreamhack and GSL!
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
May 11 2012 07:03 GMT
#166
On May 11 2012 15:53 tnud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 15:52 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:51 JackDT wrote:
Multi-year exclusive contracts are how business AVOID competition. See EA buying exclusive rights to make NFL games so there are no competitors, etc.


Its also a really good business move.

It's also a really bad thing for the consumers of the product (hint: That's you and me)

Of what product? As consumers of MLG it's clearly a really good thing. If you're projecting "the product" to include every other tournament, that's clearly not MLG's responsibility as a business.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
May 11 2012 07:04 GMT
#167
On May 11 2012 15:56 SMD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 15:53 tnud wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:52 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:51 JackDT wrote:
Multi-year exclusive contracts are how business AVOID competition. See EA buying exclusive rights to make NFL games so there are no competitors, etc.


Its also a really good business move.

It's also a really bad thing for the consumers of the product (hint: That's you and me)



It may not be a great thing for us no, but are we going to boycott Kespa and MLG because of this? Im for sure not going to.

MLG wants to grow esports, but they also are a business with the goal of making money, and getting an exclusive contract for these players looks like it could give them a leg up over other leagues

I am far more likely to support Dreamhack now, especially given MLG's oft greedy business tactics. And yeah, businesses are supposed to make money - but cooperation helps everyone and is more ethical.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Vundox
Profile Joined March 2011
United States182 Posts
May 11 2012 07:04 GMT
#168
June 11 is my high school graduation -_-
that means graduation rehearsal during MLG weekend; even worse, I was planning on going with bunch of friends when the circuit schedule was first announced

we will all just wallow in sadness now
implying Suzy isn't perfect
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 07:14:23
May 11 2012 07:05 GMT
#169
On May 11 2012 16:01 Valikyr wrote:
I just hope MLG up their production a bit for this. I love MLG but their award ceremonies are always horrible and awkward. Please learn a thing or two from Dreamhack and GSL!


And the MLG's new Korean qualifier VODs use some low graphic settings. It's so not professional. And ob's camera is also too great to catch some important moments.
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
May 11 2012 07:07 GMT
#170
k just because of kespa, i actually am gonna get myself a mlg ticket
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
May 11 2012 07:08 GMT
#171
Good to see. However I am definitely not a fan of the exclusive aspect of the deal...
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
May 11 2012 07:08 GMT
#172
On May 11 2012 16:04 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 15:56 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:53 tnud wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:52 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:51 JackDT wrote:
Multi-year exclusive contracts are how business AVOID competition. See EA buying exclusive rights to make NFL games so there are no competitors, etc.


Its also a really good business move.

It's also a really bad thing for the consumers of the product (hint: That's you and me)



It may not be a great thing for us no, but are we going to boycott Kespa and MLG because of this? Im for sure not going to.

MLG wants to grow esports, but they also are a business with the goal of making money, and getting an exclusive contract for these players looks like it could give them a leg up over other leagues

I am far more likely to support Dreamhack now, especially given MLG's oft greedy business tactics. And yeah, businesses are supposed to make money - but cooperation helps everyone and is more ethical.



Hey guys. Even if MLG wanted to allow Kespa players participate in other NA tournaments, Kespa simple won't allow that.

Kespa is always very conservative and kinda isolated. I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.
Typesno
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
May 11 2012 07:10 GMT
#173
what an announcment filled week!!
The needs of the many out weight the needs of the few.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 11 2012 07:11 GMT
#174
On May 11 2012 16:08 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:04 McFeser wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:56 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:53 tnud wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:52 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:51 JackDT wrote:
Multi-year exclusive contracts are how business AVOID competition. See EA buying exclusive rights to make NFL games so there are no competitors, etc.


Its also a really good business move.

It's also a really bad thing for the consumers of the product (hint: That's you and me)



It may not be a great thing for us no, but are we going to boycott Kespa and MLG because of this? Im for sure not going to.

MLG wants to grow esports, but they also are a business with the goal of making money, and getting an exclusive contract for these players looks like it could give them a leg up over other leagues

I am far more likely to support Dreamhack now, especially given MLG's oft greedy business tactics. And yeah, businesses are supposed to make money - but cooperation helps everyone and is more ethical.



Hey guys. Even if MLG wanted to allow Kespa players participate in other NA tournaments, Kespa simple won't allow that.

Kespa is always very conservative and kinda isolated. I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.

This is very likly the case. MLG didn't force the GSL into exclusive BS contracts.

Regardless, KeSPA is bad for SC2. Very bad. I hope GSL players decide to totally skip MLG events now because of KeSPA.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Davis23
Profile Joined May 2012
63 Posts
May 11 2012 07:11 GMT
#175
I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.


You think wrong!
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 11 2012 07:14 GMT
#176
On May 11 2012 16:11 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:08 larse wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:04 McFeser wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:56 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:53 tnud wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:52 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:51 JackDT wrote:
Multi-year exclusive contracts are how business AVOID competition. See EA buying exclusive rights to make NFL games so there are no competitors, etc.


Its also a really good business move.

It's also a really bad thing for the consumers of the product (hint: That's you and me)



It may not be a great thing for us no, but are we going to boycott Kespa and MLG because of this? Im for sure not going to.

MLG wants to grow esports, but they also are a business with the goal of making money, and getting an exclusive contract for these players looks like it could give them a leg up over other leagues

I am far more likely to support Dreamhack now, especially given MLG's oft greedy business tactics. And yeah, businesses are supposed to make money - but cooperation helps everyone and is more ethical.



Hey guys. Even if MLG wanted to allow Kespa players participate in other NA tournaments, Kespa simple won't allow that.

Kespa is always very conservative and kinda isolated. I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.

This is very likly the case. MLG didn't force the GSL into exclusive BS contracts.

Regardless, KeSPA is bad for SC2. Very bad. I hope GSL players decide to totally skip MLG events now because of KeSPA.


drink that kool aid
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
May 11 2012 07:14 GMT
#177
Actually am I the only one dont like it? I mean, we lately had been overflow with SCII content , and I Think that is part of the reason that the stream viewers are getting lower there is SO much content and the players are so expose that they lose the value of exclusivity. I hoped that with the BW switch and they playing just on OGN Proleague and OSL not moving out and not streaming there would be some exclusivity back again.
Nowadays even boxer streamed time to time. I dont feel the same if I can access MKP stream that easy, I am not as excited when he shows up in a tournament.
Even more on the topic, If I were kespa I wouldnt agree, and also Im not sure if in one month the top kespa SCII players will be able to put up an actual show in SCII, when we have been watching it for that long with really top players.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
May 11 2012 07:14 GMT
#178
On May 11 2012 15:59 psychotics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 15:13 Integra wrote:
AMAZING NEWS

SO dammn nice that the whole Kespa vs the west bullshit finally is over! the SC community )includes Starcraft1, Broodwar and Starcraft2 is finally at peace!!


not quite yet still the battle rages on between BW fans and SC2 fans sadly i dont think they will ever come to peace


On May 11 2012 15:30 Bart wrote:
ooo I feel a bit sad for Gom. It's like MLG is the dude and they dumped Gom for the hotter and more "exprienced" Kespa. Maybe cos I joined the bandwagon when SC2 came out and wasn't a fan of SC BW.


Yeah... this is me... an SC2 fan that feels somewhat indebted to Gom for GSL. So the question on my mind is if Kespa SC2 proleague and GSL were to air at the same time, which do you watch?

My view on the exclusivity is if it is MLG who wanted it then I'm a bit disappointed in them. If it was Kespa then I'd say I'm not surprised.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Fan of: MKP, Select, MC, Kripp, Purge, JP, Qpad Red Pandas
mireath
Profile Joined May 2011
30 Posts
May 11 2012 07:14 GMT
#179
Shouldn't be to pessimistic as we don't know what "exclusive" means yet, but if KeSPA becomes the powerhouse in SC2 as it is in BW then it could be bad news.
If every decent Korean pro is signed with KeSPA, and the only foreign tourney they're allowed to enter is MLG, then that's pretty much GG for Dreamhack, NASL, IPL, HSC, Iron Squid and whatever. Great for MLG, terrible for the scene.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 11 2012 07:15 GMT
#180
On May 11 2012 16:14 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:11 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:08 larse wrote:
On May 11 2012 16:04 McFeser wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:56 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:53 tnud wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:52 SMD wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:51 JackDT wrote:
Multi-year exclusive contracts are how business AVOID competition. See EA buying exclusive rights to make NFL games so there are no competitors, etc.


Its also a really good business move.

It's also a really bad thing for the consumers of the product (hint: That's you and me)



It may not be a great thing for us no, but are we going to boycott Kespa and MLG because of this? Im for sure not going to.

MLG wants to grow esports, but they also are a business with the goal of making money, and getting an exclusive contract for these players looks like it could give them a leg up over other leagues

I am far more likely to support Dreamhack now, especially given MLG's oft greedy business tactics. And yeah, businesses are supposed to make money - but cooperation helps everyone and is more ethical.



Hey guys. Even if MLG wanted to allow Kespa players participate in other NA tournaments, Kespa simple won't allow that.

Kespa is always very conservative and kinda isolated. I think this exclusive thing is not because of MLG but Kespa.

This is very likly the case. MLG didn't force the GSL into exclusive BS contracts.

Regardless, KeSPA is bad for SC2. Very bad. I hope GSL players decide to totally skip MLG events now because of KeSPA.


drink that kool aid

WTF is that suppose to mean?
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
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