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Ipponaku
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada11 Posts
May 08 2012 07:43 GMT
#1121
Greats news :D Clan support and the new replays features are awsome ^^
BBQ time :)
ErrorNA
Profile Joined November 2010
United States86 Posts
May 08 2012 07:48 GMT
#1122
Now if they can only fix the maps...... then everything would be perfect!
Flummie
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands417 Posts
May 08 2012 07:48 GMT
#1123
About the Unranked matchmaking.

How does it work? How does it determine your skillevel? It could be possible to get only noobs then? Do you get any portraits?

I don't see a difference between joining a random custom game and this if it doesn't give you any portraits tbh.
ผมพยายามหาคำตอบอยู่ตลอดเวลา
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
May 08 2012 07:48 GMT
#1124
On May 08 2012 16:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 15:45 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 08 2012 15:33 Pitrocelli wrote:
We are not getting this features.
We are forced to pay AGAIN to get features promised in game we already bought - WoL.

Shame on them unless they provide all this features in WoL patch for free.

like you weren't gonna get HotS anyways.


Believe it or not big percentage of former WoL players are done with Blizzard after 2 dissapointing years. People buying subpar products over and over again degraded into passive - milking cow position. You get candy, instantly forget about bad history and scream "Take my money !" Until consumers like this are extinct companies will be cutting content out of game and providing subpar products .. enjoy it, u are the one causing it

how has it been disappointing? they've patched the game a'lot and are aware and putting in fixes to all of the concerns. (cept lan but, the continue from replay kinda solves that aye?) I really don't know what kind of product you're looking for if blizzard isn't delivering.. they're the ones who set the bar.. so i imagine you're just being unrealistic?
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
May 08 2012 07:49 GMT
#1125
On May 08 2012 14:16 TheRPGAddict wrote:
I bet this shit is coded, in-house tested and ready to go but is being used as a marketing tool. Diablo 3 will have global play implemented on its launch ffs and shared replay viewing has been seen since Windows 98.


That's probably the case. Their coders must have had some features for quite some time, or at least a very clear idea of what they need to do to implement it. Unfortunately this is not how the business works and the calls to release something or not comes from someone else and not the coders themselves.

All in all it is good news and I'm glad for everyone that we finally get most of the feature this series deserves. And I mean this sincerely. Starcraft2 should have the best system and Blizzard should work hard to make this reality, so far, for the last 2 years BattleNet was lackluster and sometimes I wish we had some interviewers who won't let shit like "we're working on it" slide...
Man with a Plan
Profile Joined January 2012
United States401 Posts
May 08 2012 07:49 GMT
#1126
Saving this for later long read. I'm so looking forward to HoTS!
Yo!
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
May 08 2012 07:52 GMT
#1127
Amazing stuff, HoTS should be incredible
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
May 08 2012 07:56 GMT
#1128
Finally....
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
May 08 2012 07:59 GMT
#1129
So funny that they now add global play after people have bought like 5 copies each @_@
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 08 2012 08:03 GMT
#1130
On May 08 2012 16:37 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 16:36 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 08 2012 16:29 jsemmens wrote:
It's disappointing that they completely ripped off the idea of resuming games from replays without giving any credit to the guys who have already designed a mod that does that.

They've been doing it for a long time(addons in WoW). Blizzard isn't really big on giving props to developers in the community.

Isn't the fact that they're implementing it the biggest credit/props of them all?

Well couldn't that then be said about downloading SC2 and playing it? I knew a big addon maker in WoW, which was quite offended with how Blizzard just ripped him off with not so much as a how-do-you-do. That being said, I'm sure they have some part of the ToS saying they can steal any code that a player has made on/through bnet.
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
May 08 2012 08:05 GMT
#1131
Wonder how long it takes before we actually see all of this. "At or around HotS" could mean years after knowing Blizzard.
PleasureImWallace
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada45 Posts
May 08 2012 08:06 GMT
#1132
OH YES THANK GOD I CAN OFFRACE LADDER

wp blizzard
CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE GROMIT
baba44713
Profile Joined October 2011
83 Posts
May 08 2012 08:08 GMT
#1133
I like everything... except unranked matchmaking. I just don't get it.

I mean what's the purpose? Does it use your "official" MMR? If yes, than what you get is the exact experience of ladder, only if you win you don't get any credit. Yippee. On the other hand, if it has a separate MMR, than it would serve mainly as the place where people try to move away from their "official" MMR as possible to have easier time on ladder, which in effect will mess with people who use the actual ladder to get matched with, well, equally skilled opponents.

So no, I just don't see the point. Racial ladders, that would be kinda awesome, but unranked matchmaking seems like an unecessary stepstone to actual ladder. That, and a terrain for abusing the actual ladder.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
May 08 2012 08:11 GMT
#1134
On May 08 2012 16:59 Za7oX wrote:
So funny that they now add global play after people have bought like 5 copies each @_@


At least those people won't have to buy 5 copies of HoTS.
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
May 08 2012 08:15 GMT
#1135
On May 08 2012 16:48 Flummie wrote:
About the Unranked matchmaking.

How does it work? How does it determine your skillevel? It could be possible to get only noobs then? Do you get any portraits?

I don't see a difference between joining a random custom game and this if it doesn't give you any portraits tbh.

it was stated very clearly that it will match you with people of similar MMR.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 08:18:27
May 08 2012 08:17 GMT
#1136
On May 08 2012 17:08 baba44713 wrote:
I like everything... except unranked matchmaking. I just don't get it.

I mean what's the purpose? Does it use your "official" MMR? If yes, than what you get is the exact experience of ladder, only if you win you don't get any credit. Yippee. On the other hand, if it has a separate MMR, than it would serve mainly as the place where people try to move away from their "official" MMR as possible to have easier time on ladder, which in effect will mess with people who use the actual ladder to get matched with, well, equally skilled opponents.

So no, I just don't see the point. Racial ladders, that would be kinda awesome, but unranked matchmaking seems like an unecessary stepstone to actual ladder. That, and a terrain for abusing the actual ladder.


I see it as a place to get practice, a place to play without having the worry about losing your rank/mmr. Believe it or not, as much as we all tell people to not give a shit about their rank/league, people still do. This gives them the option to play ladder without those worries.

I mentioned earlier in the thread and posted in the bnet forums (ha!) that I would like to see the unranked system have additional filters that allow you to choose a match-up and map to practice on. You can try out builds, work on weak match-ups, or play on maps that you don't hit that frequently on ladder.

It's only a positive thing, it doesn't detract away from the ranked ladder we have now.

And yes, it does use your MMR but won't affect it in anyway.

Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
May 08 2012 08:18 GMT
#1137
All these features are for KeSPA, they heard and were like "We need to fix Battle.net, fast!"

All jokes aside, great news, really MOTHER FUCKING happy that these fixes are -announced and confirmed-. No lan, but hey, they found the next best thing which serves a lot more purposes, so kind of a trade off... for now anyway I hope. A lot to look forward to, but I wonder if these fixes will be for Battle.net in general (SC2+HoTS), or are enabled with HoTS, global play especially. Look forward to those details as well, lets hope its news just as good as this.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 08:20:14
May 08 2012 08:19 GMT
#1138
On May 08 2012 16:48 VPCursed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 16:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
On May 08 2012 15:45 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 08 2012 15:33 Pitrocelli wrote:
We are not getting this features.
We are forced to pay AGAIN to get features promised in game we already bought - WoL.

Shame on them unless they provide all this features in WoL patch for free.

like you weren't gonna get HotS anyways.


Believe it or not big percentage of former WoL players are done with Blizzard after 2 dissapointing years. People buying subpar products over and over again degraded into passive - milking cow position. You get candy, instantly forget about bad history and scream "Take my money !" Until consumers like this are extinct companies will be cutting content out of game and providing subpar products .. enjoy it, u are the one causing it

how has it been disappointing? they've patched the game a'lot and are aware and putting in fixes to all of the concerns. (cept lan but, the continue from replay kinda solves that aye?) I really don't know what kind of product you're looking for if blizzard isn't delivering.. they're the ones who set the bar.. so i imagine you're just being unrealistic?

How has it been disappointing?

Well....
Lack of LAN...as you mentioned. AKA near instantaneous control
Game doesn't automatically put you in a chat room (spontaneous friendships)
Lack of racial diversity at fundamental tier 1 level (stalker/marauder/roach)
Lack of viable mech
Too many high supply units
Lack of incentive for Terran to do anything much more than bio and medivacs
Lack of incentive to get tier 3 units (besides brood lords)
Lack of infinite micro potential in units (just about the marine, in BW there were a handful of units like this)
Claustrophobic maps to hide balance issues
Stubborn insistence on maintaining arbitrarily consistent resources across maps when they can be adjusted to help balance
Lack of correct unit spacing to make battles and armies feel large
Lack of high ground mechanic to make terrain more meaningful
Insistence on having huge portions of the middle of maps visible so their is rarely any jostling/trickery/risks taken
Macro mechanics that accelerate the game so fast that less strategic options are available
Lack of units with 1 hit kill attacks
Lack of very fast units with high micro potential.

I'll stop before I get carried away. sorry. =)
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
May 08 2012 08:22 GMT
#1139
On May 08 2012 17:17 Bayyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 17:08 baba44713 wrote:
I like everything... except unranked matchmaking. I just don't get it.

I mean what's the purpose? Does it use your "official" MMR? If yes, than what you get is the exact experience of ladder, only if you win you don't get any credit. Yippee. On the other hand, if it has a separate MMR, than it would serve mainly as the place where people try to move away from their "official" MMR as possible to have easier time on ladder, which in effect will mess with people who use the actual ladder to get matched with, well, equally skilled opponents.

So no, I just don't see the point. Racial ladders, that would be kinda awesome, but unranked matchmaking seems like an unecessary stepstone to actual ladder. That, and a terrain for abusing the actual ladder.


I see it as a place to get practice, a place to play without having the worry about losing your rank/mmr. Believe it or not, as much as we all tell people to not give a shit about their rank/league, people still do. This gives them the option to play ladder without those worries.

I mentioned earlier in the thread and posted in the bnet forums (ha!) that I would like to see the unranked system have additional filters that allow you to choose a match-up and map to practice on. You can try out builds, work on weak match-ups, or play on maps that you don't hit that frequently on ladder.

It's only a positive thing, it doesn't detract away from the ranked ladder we have now.

And yes, it does use your MMR but won't affect it in anyway.



Indeed especially as after telling people not to worry about ladder rank, they then get judged and dismissed based upon it, those brave little men on the internets. I'm damn sure there'd be at least another 10% on the player base retention if unranked was an option.
我的媽和她的瘋狂的外甥都
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 18:07:09
May 08 2012 08:26 GMT
#1140
On May 08 2012 17:19 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 16:48 VPCursed wrote:
On May 08 2012 16:08 Pitrocelli wrote:
On May 08 2012 15:45 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 08 2012 15:33 Pitrocelli wrote:
We are not getting this features.
We are forced to pay AGAIN to get features promised in game we already bought - WoL.

Shame on them unless they provide all this features in WoL patch for free.

like you weren't gonna get HotS anyways.


Believe it or not big percentage of former WoL players are done with Blizzard after 2 dissapointing years. People buying subpar products over and over again degraded into passive - milking cow position. You get candy, instantly forget about bad history and scream "Take my money !" Until consumers like this are extinct companies will be cutting content out of game and providing subpar products .. enjoy it, u are the one causing it

how has it been disappointing? they've patched the game a'lot and are aware and putting in fixes to all of the concerns. (cept lan but, the continue from replay kinda solves that aye?) I really don't know what kind of product you're looking for if blizzard isn't delivering.. they're the ones who set the bar.. so i imagine you're just being unrealistic?

How has it been disappointing?

Well....
Lack of LAN...as you mentioned. AKA near instantaneous control
Game doesn't automatically put you in a chat room (spontaneous friendships)
Lack of racial diversity at fundamental tier 1 level (stalker/marauder/roach)
Lack of viable mech
Too many high supply units
Lack of incentive for Terran to do anything much more than bio and medivacs
Lack of incentive to get tier 3 units (besides brood lords)
Lack of infinite micro potential in units (just about the marine, in BW there were a handful of units like this)
Claustrophobic maps to hide balance issues
Stubborn insistence on maintaining arbitrarily consistent resources across maps when they can be adjusted to help balance
Lack of correct unit spacing to make battles and armies feel large
Lack of high ground mechanic to make terrain more meaningful
Insistence on having huge portions of the middle of maps visible so their is rarely any jostling/trickery/risks taken
Macro mechanics that accelerate the game so fast that less strategic options are available
Lack of units with 1 hit kill attacks
Lack of very fast units with high micro potential.

I'll stop before I get carried away. sorry. =)

Apart from the Lan and high ground mechanic you have no idea what your talking about if you really believe half of these points.Sc2 has a lot of problems but these generalizations are just incorrect and some of these were true 1 year ago maybe.
Cackle™
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