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Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
September 14 2012 16:36 GMT
#1661
I just updated the plug in, and this happened:
[image loading]

Is this taking into account of the new ladder settings?
The world is ending what should we do about it?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:20:07
September 14 2012 17:35 GMT
#1662
On September 14 2012 22:34 ToXSiK wrote:
Hey! First off, thanks for all your hard work on this program, it is awesome! I have a smurf, however, and the mmr last season was pretty bad (About 2200MMR - 2800 was GM), but now it's saying the GM league promo will happen at 2150~ and the account is already at 2110. Is GM league not accurate or is it super easy to make gm now?

xD

Thanks~!



like jaycee said. GM line is just a guess 800 or something.

If you get in or not depends on mmr on the gm day.
You can wait until you reach a max level for your skill and than stop playing and play a single game at gm day and have a good chance. I would not call it super easy because most people do it this way.


EDIT: AH NO! thats a bug! i put gm line at the offset line like other leagues but it dont work this way.
Must edit it, GM is way higher than 430.



@Surili
You stopped reading the update message after the first line with : now follow math, didnt you?
Save gaming: kill esport
darkhorz
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:39:24
September 14 2012 18:32 GMT
#1663
Greetings from a measly silver player. I just won the placement match for this season and was awarded approximately -10.000 (that's minus ten thousand) mmr rating. This is pure speculation on my part, but it seems sc2gears wasn't able to read the score of my opponent and given that I received 0 points for the win it deducted that my mmr along with my self confidence should probably get floored :p

Is this some anomaly due to the fact it's a placement match or is it the lower leagues that still need work?

Will you advice me to reset the entire database and start from scratch or just wait patiently for everything to correct itself?

Either way, I appreciate the work being done with this addon a great deal

Edit: Nevermind. Found a previous post where it was pointed out it would correct itself after a few matches
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 14 2012 19:08 GMT
#1664
After its so confusing for so many people i will and an archive option.
Save gaming: kill esport
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 21:22:32
September 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#1665
I WAS WRONG.
The dmmr-cap is still there but blizzard did not buff it. Its unchanged. I had a bug in my code that calculated the cap wrong.
Without this problem we are good to go .
I upload the version soon. offsets are not 100% yet but i have data that give good results.
With more games it will be more and more accurate

SEA and KR is a problem. I put eu /na data in there even if i know its wrong but i dont have enough games from this regions to calculate offsets.
Save gaming: kill esport
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 14 2012 21:41 GMT
#1666
6.3 OUT

Update:
I was wrong. Blizzard did not buff the cap rule.
There was a mistake in my code. I fixed it and we are good to go.

Offsets:
Offsets are ok in EU/NA and will get updated more accurate with more uploaded games.
KR/SEA offsets are unknown yet because of missing data.
I enter EU/NA data for KR and little bit smaller values for SEA was like this in last seasons)

Other Changes:
because the data-break confused many users i put the old data in an archive.
You can see archived data over the click-box in the South-Bar.
Save gaming: kill esport
SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
September 14 2012 21:43 GMT
#1667
I just want to say skeldark, you are crazy.

Thank you for the ridiculous amount of work you put into this, looking forward to having the new season be super accurate.
Zerg #1
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
September 14 2012 21:51 GMT
#1668
Hey skeldark,
I've deleted all my data (something around 700 games qq) by accident. Is it possible to get it back somehow?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 14 2012 21:55 GMT
#1669
On September 15 2012 06:43 SirPsychoMantis wrote:
I just want to say skeldark, you are crazy.

Thank you for the ridiculous amount of work you put into this, looking forward to having the new season be super accurate.

Thanks... i guess.
Dont remind me. Or i will think about it and start doing something usefull with my time ^^

On September 15 2012 06:51 roym899 wrote:
Hey skeldark,
I've deleted all my data (something around 700 games qq) by accident. Is it possible to get it back somehow?


Did you run the upgrader allready?
if yes there should be a games.dat.old that you can rename into game.dat and get the data of the old seasons back.
Save gaming: kill esport
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
September 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#1670
No, the whole folder plugin folder is gone. I've formatted my pc because of some things I was pretty annoyed with and I thought I've saved the data already, but obviously didn't.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#1671
I got placed in to plat this season but my MMR shows as being well below the line, last season i was over it. My MMR is now lower, as is the promotion line but surely I should still be above it? This is for KR server btw.

Great work, best plugin ever!
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Halgaard
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark11 Posts
September 14 2012 22:09 GMT
#1672
I have looked in the last few pages but haven't found any info on this. I have just started using this plugin and have only played 10 games. How many matches is it normal to play to get a "good" game that gives me enough data to start plotting my mmr?
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
September 14 2012 22:10 GMT
#1673
On September 15 2012 02:35 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 22:34 ToXSiK wrote:
Hey! First off, thanks for all your hard work on this program, it is awesome! I have a smurf, however, and the mmr last season was pretty bad (About 2200MMR - 2800 was GM), but now it's saying the GM league promo will happen at 2150~ and the account is already at 2110. Is GM league not accurate or is it super easy to make gm now?

xD

Thanks~!



like jaycee said. GM line is just a guess 800 or something.

If you get in or not depends on mmr on the gm day.
You can wait until you reach a max level for your skill and than stop playing and play a single game at gm day and have a good chance. I would not call it super easy because most people do it this way.


EDIT: AH NO! thats a bug! i put gm line at the offset line like other leagues but it dont work this way.
Must edit it, GM is way higher than 430.



@Surili
You stopped reading the update message after the first line with : now follow math, didnt you?

Yeah, pretty much, could you tell me what it was meant to have said? As i can't find it now :/ Sorry for wasting your time. Thanks for the plugin, its awesome <3
The world is ending what should we do about it?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 14 2012 22:21 GMT
#1674
On September 15 2012 07:04 roym899 wrote:
No, the whole folder plugin folder is gone. I've formatted my pc because of some things I was pretty annoyed with and I thought I've saved the data already, but obviously didn't.

PM.

On September 15 2012 07:06 emythrel wrote:
I got placed in to plat this season but my MMR shows as being well below the line, last season i was over it. My MMR is now lower, as is the promotion line but surely I should still be above it? This is for KR server btw.

Great work, best plugin ever!

Not sure about korean offsets. To few data. I will update korean offsets within next weeks.
This will be done over a db update so you dont need to download a new version

On September 15 2012 07:09 Halgaard wrote:
I have looked in the last few pages but haven't found any info on this. I have just started using this plugin and have only played 10 games. How many matches is it normal to play to get a "good" game that gives me enough data to start plotting my mmr?


You should have checked the FAQ in the op.

On September 15 2012 07:10 Surili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 02:35 skeldark wrote:
On September 14 2012 22:34 ToXSiK wrote:
Hey! First off, thanks for all your hard work on this program, it is awesome! I have a smurf, however, and the mmr last season was pretty bad (About 2200MMR - 2800 was GM), but now it's saying the GM league promo will happen at 2150~ and the account is already at 2110. Is GM league not accurate or is it super easy to make gm now?

xD

Thanks~!



like jaycee said. GM line is just a guess 800 or something.

If you get in or not depends on mmr on the gm day.
You can wait until you reach a max level for your skill and than stop playing and play a single game at gm day and have a good chance. I would not call it super easy because most people do it this way.


EDIT: AH NO! thats a bug! i put gm line at the offset line like other leagues but it dont work this way.
Must edit it, GM is way higher than 430.



@Surili
You stopped reading the update message after the first line with : now follow math, didnt you?

Yeah, pretty much, could you tell me what it was meant to have said? As i can't find it now :/ Sorry for wasting your time. Thanks for the plugin, its awesome <3

Does not care any more. New version put the old data in the archive. ( new checkbox in the south bar)
Basic the offsets changed and so did the promotion line. Thats what you see there.

Save gaming: kill esport
Namelless
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 22:28:03
September 14 2012 22:24 GMT
#1675
lol ... all of you crazy people not understanding the massive drop of their graphs ... _just download new version_

skeldark already saw that its to complicated for some users o_0

edit: oh new version is pretty more comfortable :D
Halgaard
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 22:35:15
September 14 2012 22:34 GMT
#1676
On September 15 2012 07:21 skeldark wrote:
You should have checked the FAQ in the op.


I read the FaQ and saw the 1-infinity statement. I just wanted to hear what was "normal". Is a 1-30 game run to get data normal or are we talking 100+ games. I know this varies, but was just hoping for a "it's normally within 20+/- from X" if that is possible at all.

Oh and thanks for all the work btw... from what i have read in this thread it looks like a lot of work!
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 14 2012 22:38 GMT
#1677
On September 15 2012 07:34 Halgaard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 07:21 skeldark wrote:
You should have checked the FAQ in the op.


I read the FaQ and saw the 1-infinity statement. I just wanted to hear what was "normal". Is a 1-30 game run to get data normal or are we talking 100+ games. I know this varies, but was just hoping for a "it's normally within 20+/- from X" if that is possible at all.

Oh and thanks for all the work btw... from what i have read in this thread it looks like a lot of work!

thanks it is...

0-20 is normal.
Shorter if you use memory-scanner.
Depends if you are in the upper or down part of your league.
Save gaming: kill esport
shadogi
Profile Joined November 2011
United States194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 01:55:02
September 15 2012 01:47 GMT
#1678
On September 15 2012 06:41 skeldark wrote:
6.3 OUT

Update:
I was wrong. Blizzard did not buff the cap rule.
There was a mistake in my code. I fixed it and we are good to go.

Offsets:
Offsets are ok in EU/NA and will get updated more accurate with more uploaded games.
KR/SEA offsets are unknown yet because of missing data.
I enter EU/NA data for KR and little bit smaller values for SEA was like this in last seasons)

Other Changes:
because the data-break confused many users i put the old data in an archive.
You can see archived data over the click-box in the South-Bar.


Does the plugin automatically send you data? If so, I'll play more on KR in order to get you more data!

Also, maybe this is me trying to heal my bruised ego, but, with the new version, I lost 200 points on my MMR and went from being solidly diamond to having my MMR in the top part of platinum. Can this really be right? I literally never play platinum players and even get the occasional masters. Admittedly, I only have 1 of my last 20 or so games as "100%". Additionally, I haven't played a game since loading the newest version, but did play quite a few games with the version released just a few days (maybe a week) ago.

Thoughts?

Thanks!
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 15 2012 01:59 GMT
#1679
On September 15 2012 10:47 shadogi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 06:41 skeldark wrote:
6.3 OUT

Update:
I was wrong. Blizzard did not buff the cap rule.
There was a mistake in my code. I fixed it and we are good to go.

Offsets:
Offsets are ok in EU/NA and will get updated more accurate with more uploaded games.
KR/SEA offsets are unknown yet because of missing data.
I enter EU/NA data for KR and little bit smaller values for SEA was like this in last seasons)

Other Changes:
because the data-break confused many users i put the old data in an archive.
You can see archived data over the click-box in the South-Bar.


Does the plugin automatically send you data? If so, I'll play more on KR in order to get you more data!

Also, maybe this is me trying to heal my bruised ego, but, with the new version, I lost 200 points on my MMR and went from being solidly diamond to having my MMR in the top part of platinum. Can this really be right? I literally never play platinum players and even get the occasional masters. Admittedly, I only have 1 of my last 20 or so games as "100%". Additionally, I haven't played a game since loading the newest version, but did play quite a few games with the version released just a few days (maybe a week) ago.

Thoughts?

Thanks!


its the modifiers and offsets being removed i believe, mine did same thing. On KR server i was nearly at that magic diamond line before new season, now i'm below the plat line... both the line and my mmr moved down but my mmr more it seems lol. Should fix itself eventually, might be that the promotion lines need moving again
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 02:17:10
September 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#1680
For KR i dont have any idea of the offsets yet.
Old data is allays recalculated with new information.
So if i push a offset update all games are effected.
To get more games enable the Memory scanner ( 1 out of 20 ) is to low.
You get more bad than good games if you are close to an promotion line. Whatever this line is.
At the start of a season pointchanges are bigger so, my algo for bad games is not as accurate.
You need more good games to make a call.

About lower mmr: check mmr compare to promotion lines. The whole datapacket shifted with the new offsets.
You can not compare pre 9 numbers with post 9 numbers

However if you are dia and play dia and have a good game. This is now allways accurate.
If it show you low in dia you are...
But low and high mmr is different to low and high player.
E.g. over 50% of dia players are low mmr dia player and only 10% high mmr dia player...
MMR number dont move linear with population.
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