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emythrel

United Kingdom2599 Posts

September 16 2012 00:04 GMT

#1701

On September 16 2012 08:28 totally_spy wrote:
according to sc2ranks the spreading isn't 20% every league anymore : http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all

PS : skeldark you are awesome =)

My how that breakdown has changed in 2 years. Terran now make up the smallest share of players all the way down to silver (excluding random lol). The GM one is very striking, both zerg and toss double the amount of terran players.

totally_spy

France104 Posts

September 16 2012 00:20 GMT

#1702

gm is only up for china so the data is meaningless. It will also be meaningless with all those barcodes smurf accounts anyway

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

September 16 2012 04:22 GMT

#1703

They changed the promotion demotion.
Looks like you no longer get auto-demoted if you fall 2 leagues.

master - bronze, demotion was not possible in the old system.
From now on a Bronze player can be better than a Master player.
League hold no accurate value about skill.
(in the past you could tell on the league, if someone is top middle or low third of all players)

Heres some data of league change in season 9:

+ Show Spoiler +

diamond master
master silver
silver gold
gold master
master bronze
bronze silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold bronze
bronze master
master platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold bronze
bronze diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond bronze
bronze silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold master
master bronze
bronze master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze silver
silver platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum silver
silver master
master silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum silver
silver gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master bronze
bronze silver
silver diamond
diamond gold
gold bronze
bronze master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum silver
silver bronze
bronze master
master gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver gold
gold silver
silver master
master bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver diamond
diamond gold
gold master
master gold
gold bronze
bronze gold
gold master
master gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum silver
silver gold
gold diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze silver
silver platinum
platinum gold
gold silver
silver diamond
diamond bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master bronze
bronze gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold bronze
bronze platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold diamond
diamond silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum silver
silver platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum bronze
bronze silver
silver gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold master
master silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum bronze
bronze master
master silver
silver master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold silver
silver bronze
bronze diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum silver
silver gold
gold silver
silver master
master platinum
platinum silver
silver gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver master
master gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond bronze
bronze diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master bronze
bronze diamond
diamond silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum bronze
bronze silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold master
master bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold master
master silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver master
master gold
gold silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum silver
silver master
master silver
silver gold
gold bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold silver
silver gold
gold diamond
diamond silver
silver bronze
bronze platinum
platinum silver
silver platinum
platinum silver
silver platinum
platinum silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver gold
gold silver
silver gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum gold
gold bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond bronze
bronze gold
gold bronze
bronze diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze master
master gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum silver
silver diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond silver
silver bronze
bronze gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum bronze
bronze platinum
platinum gold
gold bronze
bronze master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master bronze
bronze gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum master
master silver
silver master
master silver
silver master
master diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver platinum
platinum silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master silver
silver platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond bronze
bronze silver
silver platinum
platinum gold
gold silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold bronze
bronze master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum bronze
bronze master
master platinum
platinum silver
silver bronze
bronze diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver platinum
platinum master
master silver
silver gold
gold diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum silver
silver gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master silver
silver bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond bronze
bronze master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond bronze
bronze silver
silver platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond silver
silver gold
gold silver
silver master
master bronze
bronze platinum
platinum bronze
bronze gold
gold bronze
bronze diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum bronze
bronze platinum
platinum bronze
bronze silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold diamond
diamond silver
silver master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum silver
silver master
master diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum master
master bronze
bronze diamond
diamond platinum
platinum bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond bronze
bronze diamond
diamond gold
gold diamond
diamond platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold master
master diamond
diamond platinum
platinum master
master bronze
bronze diamond
diamond bronze
bronze master
master platinum
platinum bronze
bronze gold
gold master
master bronze
bronze master
master bronze
bronze platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum gold
gold diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum bronze
bronze master
master diamond
diamond silver
silver diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond platinum
platinum gold
gold bronze
bronze gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond bronze
bronze platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master platinum
platinum bronze
bronze platinum
platinum master
master gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold silver
silver platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum gold
gold platinum
platinum master
master diamond
diamond gold
gold platinum
platinum diamond
diamond master
master diamond
diamond master
master platinum
platinum diamond
diamond gold

hope thats enough ...

fatalslaughter

16 Posts

September 16 2012 08:07 GMT

#1704

So I finally got this to work, and it displays my MMR, but it doesn't show a line to represent the threshold of the next or previous league.

MMR of 1266 platinum league by the way.

pulperi

Finland87 Posts

September 16 2012 09:03 GMT

#1705

On September 16 2012 17:07 fatalslaughter wrote:
So I finally got this to work, and it displays my MMR, but it doesn't show a line to represent the threshold of the next or previous league.

MMR of 1266 platinum league by the way.

Did you try clicking the league icons ?

fatalslaughter

16 Posts

September 16 2012 11:12 GMT

#1706

On September 16 2012 18:03 pulperi wrote:

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Did you try clicking the league icons ?

That did the trick, thanks.

Looks like I'm actually mid platinum, not top 3% like blizzard would like me to believe

FCLogan

49 Posts

September 16 2012 11:58 GMT

#1707

On September 16 2012 13:22 skeldark wrote:
They changed the promotion demotion.
Looks like you no longer get auto-demoted if you fall 2 leagues.

master - bronze, demotion was not possible in the old system.
From now on a Bronze player can be better than a Master player.
League hold no accurate value about skill.
(in the past you could tell on the league, if someone is top middle or low third of all players)

Heres some data of league change in season 9:

+ Show Spoiler +

hope thats enough ...

So getting promoted and demoted is harder now? Also, I got promoted to diamond at the start of the season and am below the diamond promotion line, while last season I was about 120 points above the promotion line. Is this normal?

korona

1098 Posts

September 16 2012 12:08 GMT

#1708

On September 16 2012 20:58 FCLogan wrote:

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hope thats enough ...

The promotion system could also be simply bugged. E.g. for some it takes lots of games to get placed at all: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6569076842#1 . And some seem not to get demoted even if they crash their MMR: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=368689 . Time will tell...

ikiwyou

United States2 Posts

September 16 2012 15:26 GMT

#1709

How close is 1400 to grandmaster this current season? Is the program accurate to that?

FCLogan

49 Posts

September 16 2012 16:12 GMT

#1710

On September 17 2012 00:26 ikiwyou wrote:
How close is 1400 to grandmaster this current season? Is the program accurate to that?

It is not accurate for grandmaster, but should be fairly accurate for most of the other leagues. And I think you mean 2400? 1400 is plat/diamond range.

ToXSiK

United States83 Posts

September 16 2012 16:18 GMT

#1711

Any reason why my 'MMR' would do something crazy like this ?

[image loading]

D: I lost 6 games in a row to a grandmaster and then won a game, and it went downabout 600 points... O____o

FCLogan

49 Posts

September 16 2012 16:26 GMT

#1712

On September 17 2012 01:18 ToXSiK wrote:
Any reason why my 'MMR' would do something crazy like this ?

[image loading]

D: I lost 6 games in a row to a grandmaster and then won a game, and it went downabout 600 points... O____o

You don't have mark assumptions turned on. Most of your games were probably "assumptions," and when it got a 100% game it moved you down and corrected the error. The plugin "assumes" a 16 point gain or loss of MMR after each bad game or assumption, but you don't always lose or gain 16 points. Go to the config menu, the data sub-tab and turn on mark assumptions (it should gray out games that are assumptions).

It is also possibly an error. Skeldark can verify that for you when he checks the thread.

ToXSiK

United States83 Posts

September 16 2012 16:58 GMT

#1713

Seems to have fixed itself after doing what you said, Logan.

[image loading]

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

September 16 2012 17:12 GMT

#1714

found a good example that shows how accurate even prediction games are:
Over 30 bad games, a mmr loose over 500 and the mistake is smaller than 10 mmr

[image loading]

maLaK1

Germany124 Posts

September 16 2012 17:47 GMT

#1715

did blizzard implement the thing where if you're top 20in diamond you're top20 in all divisions?

and did something change about the master mmr?

because before the tool always showed my mmr between 1600 and 1700, and 2000 was the master line

now I dropped to 1400-1500 and the master line is 1700

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

September 16 2012 17:55 GMT

#1716

On September 17 2012 02:47 maLaK1 wrote:
did blizzard implement the thing where if you're top 20in diamond you're top20 in all divisions?

and did something change about the master mmr?

because before the tool always showed my mmr between 1600 and 1700, and 2000 was the master line

now I dropped to 1400-1500 and the master line is 1700

Offsets of leagues changed = promotion line changed = yor mmr number changed.
Obvious this does not mean a skil change just a different number

FCLogan

49 Posts

September 16 2012 18:31 GMT

#1717

On September 17 2012 02:55 skeldark wrote:

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Offsets of leagues changed = promotion line changed = yor mmr number changed.
Obvious this does not mean a skil change just a different number

Do you know Blizzard changes the offset mid season, or are the offsets static for the entire season?

Excalibur_Z

United States12257 Posts

September 16 2012 18:56 GMT

#1718

On September 17 2012 03:31 FCLogan wrote:

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Do you know Blizzard changes the offset mid season, or are the offsets static for the entire season?

To my knowledge they've only changed the offsets mid-season one time. Everyone called it "promotion day". I don't know when they've changed the offsets (either mid-season or between seasons) besides that.

Geos13

437 Posts

September 17 2012 03:28 GMT

#1719

Are you sure this is still working? I'm pretty sure I went into the new season at around 1750 mmr so a mid diamond but after the season change I quickly dropped to below diamond. I did have a rough run of games but in the past I've had far worse runs and stayed safely in diamond. I still haven't been demoted and I still mostly(90%?) play diamond players. I've been under for awhile now so I would have thought a demotion would occur.

Here's my graph:

mmr by GeoPhotos13, on Flickr

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

September 17 2012 03:41 GMT

#1720

On September 17 2012 12:28 Geos13 wrote:
Are you sure this is still working? I'm pretty sure I went into the new season at around 1750 mmr so a mid diamond but after the season change I quickly dropped to below diamond. I did have a rough run of games but in the past I've had far worse runs and stayed safely in diamond. I still haven't been demoted and I still mostly(90%?) play diamond players. I've been under for awhile now so I would have thought a demotion would occur.

Here's my graph:

mmr by GeoPhotos13, on Flickr

You only have 2 good games but im very confident this graph is correct. Sorry.
Also the few amount of good games alone is an indicator that you are low in your league or under it.

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