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Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
September 17 2012 04:04 GMT
#1721
On September 17 2012 12:41 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 12:28 Geos13 wrote:
Are you sure this is still working? I'm pretty sure I went into the new season at around 1750 mmr so a mid diamond but after the season change I quickly dropped to below diamond. I did have a rough run of games but in the past I've had far worse runs and stayed safely in diamond. I still haven't been demoted and I still mostly(90%?) play diamond players. I've been under for awhile now so I would have thought a demotion would occur.

Here's my graph:
[image loading]
mmr by GeoPhotos13, on Flickr


You only have 2 good games but im very confident this graph is correct. Sorry.
Also the few amount of good games alone is an indicator that you are low in your league or under it.


That's okay, I will just try to improve. Out of curiosity, how many games does it normally take to be demoted once you pass a line?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 17 2012 04:18 GMT
#1722
On September 17 2012 13:04 Geos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 12:41 skeldark wrote:
On September 17 2012 12:28 Geos13 wrote:
Are you sure this is still working? I'm pretty sure I went into the new season at around 1750 mmr so a mid diamond but after the season change I quickly dropped to below diamond. I did have a rough run of games but in the past I've had far worse runs and stayed safely in diamond. I still haven't been demoted and I still mostly(90%?) play diamond players. I've been under for awhile now so I would have thought a demotion would occur.

Here's my graph:
[image loading]
mmr by GeoPhotos13, on Flickr


You only have 2 good games but im very confident this graph is correct. Sorry.
Also the few amount of good games alone is an indicator that you are low in your league or under it.


That's okay, I will just try to improve. Out of curiosity, how many games does it normally take to be demoted once you pass a line?

Its not about game count its about how stable you are in the other league.
The exact function for stability is unkown.
Save gaming: kill esport
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
September 17 2012 12:42 GMT
#1723
hey, i got a question, after the last update my client doesn't seem to deem any of the games i play good enough to extract data. i've so far played 37 games and it still says "Need a game with better data 0/37" is that intentional, am i just unlucky, should i maybe reinstall or am i doing something wrong? ^^
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
NoobStomper863
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
September 17 2012 16:24 GMT
#1724
[image loading]
Is the GM bar accurate? it doesn't really feel like i'm at GM level yet.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 17 2012 19:00 GMT
#1725
On September 17 2012 21:42 dNa wrote:
hey, i got a question, after the last update my client doesn't seem to deem any of the games i play good enough to extract data. i've so far played 37 games and it still says "Need a game with better data 0/37" is that intentional, am i just unlucky, should i maybe reinstall or am i doing something wrong? ^^

With lower league size and removal of tiers the cap rule is harder. This rule gives your opponents free points even if he dont deserv them. So i cant calculate your MMR.
I can say so much that if you have 37 games and they are all caped ( i hope you use memory reader) the maximum mmr you can have is the promotion line of the league you are in.


On September 18 2012 01:24 NoobStomper863 wrote:
Is the GM bar accurate? it doesn't really feel like i'm at GM level yet.

No its not. Gm is no real leauge its top 200 so i can not tell you what the line is before gm is out.
Save gaming: kill esport
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
September 17 2012 19:29 GMT
#1726
On September 18 2012 01:24 NoobStomper863 wrote:
[image loading]
Is the GM bar accurate? it doesn't really feel like i'm at GM level yet.


I am pretty sure its wrong, gm line should be around 2600
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Alnius
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway29 Posts
September 17 2012 19:29 GMT
#1727
On September 18 2012 04:00 skeldark wrote:
( i hope you use memory reader) the maximum mmr you can have is the promotion line of the league you are in.

The memory reader that always fail on my because I use 64bit OS and 64bit Java?

I got 0/7 when I started today, now I got 0/11 or something and since I'm very low bronze and I'd guess all my games are capped from now and forever.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 19:48:40
September 17 2012 19:37 GMT
#1728
On September 18 2012 04:29 Alnius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 04:00 skeldark wrote:
( i hope you use memory reader) the maximum mmr you can have is the promotion line of the league you are in.

The memory reader that always fail on my because I use 64bit OS and 64bit Java?

I got 0/7 when I started today, now I got 0/11 or something and since I'm very low bronze and I'd guess all my games are capped from now and forever.

No 64bit Java support for memory reader. Supports 32 bit JVM.

Edit: and don't give up hope. Sooner or later...
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 21:17:29
September 17 2012 21:10 GMT
#1729
Working on a new version:

-New MMR guesser!
i will put in a pre-result with a guess on your mmr, as long as you dont have good games.
So you dont see the "need more data" the whole time.

- Improved finetuner
Games are corrected insite the errormargin better to be even more accurate.

-Error finder
Analyser search for error in the data. He dont mark them automatic because he can be wrong.
But in the analyser tab you see what the analyer thinks is bad to mark them bad yourself.

-Improved output in dataeditor to mark games easyer

-More accurate offsets
Save gaming: kill esport
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
September 17 2012 21:50 GMT
#1730
On September 18 2012 06:10 skeldark wrote:
Working on a new version:

-New MMR guesser!
i will put in a pre-result with a guess on your mmr, as long as you dont have good games.
So you dont see the "need more data" the whole time.

- Improved finetuner
Games are corrected insite the errormargin better to be even more accurate.

-Error finder
Analyser search for error in the data. He dont mark them automatic because he can be wrong.
But in the analyser tab you see what the analyer thinks is bad to mark them bad yourself.

-Improved output in dataeditor to mark games easyer

-More accurate offsets

Looking forward for these improvements!

Skeldark: Could you add a filter (graph) for 'last 100 matches' into the next version of the plugin? In the end of last season 'last 50' showed too few for my taste, and looking at the whole season showed too many (had several hundred of matches). (And if you have time to tinker with the charts in the future, it would be nice to be able to zoom sideways too.)
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 23:13:53
September 17 2012 23:12 GMT
#1731
On September 18 2012 06:50 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 06:10 skeldark wrote:
Working on a new version:

-New MMR guesser!
i will put in a pre-result with a guess on your mmr, as long as you dont have good games.
So you dont see the "need more data" the whole time.

- Improved finetuner
Games are corrected insite the errormargin better to be even more accurate.

-Error finder
Analyser search for error in the data. He dont mark them automatic because he can be wrong.
But in the analyser tab you see what the analyer thinks is bad to mark them bad yourself.

-Improved output in dataeditor to mark games easyer

-More accurate offsets

Looking forward for these improvements!

Skeldark: Could you add a filter (graph) for 'last 100 matches' into the next version of the plugin? In the end of last season 'last 50' showed too few for my taste, and looking at the whole season showed too many (had several hundred of matches). (And if you have time to tinker with the charts in the future, it would be nice to be able to zoom sideways too.)

last 100 is no problem (two lines of code) but zoom sideways is(rewriting the hole graph engine = 20 sites of code).



Something is with the leagueoffsets i think they are to high in my prog but i think that have to do with the blizzard promotion bug so i dont change them for now




There is so much to know by now, i need some kind of tutorial.
Someone up to write one?
No need for MMR explanation just how to use the program.
Save gaming: kill esport
maLaK1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany124 Posts
September 18 2012 00:10 GMT
#1732
I'm top 10 in my division, but my MMR in the tool is at 1471 / barely above min diamond level,

didnt blizzard implement the thing were if youre top 10 youre in the top 10% of all diamond players?

shoulnt I be closer to the master line then?, opponents I play are mid to high diamond
shadogi
Profile Joined November 2011
United States194 Posts
September 18 2012 00:21 GMT
#1733
On September 18 2012 04:37 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 04:29 Alnius wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:00 skeldark wrote:
( i hope you use memory reader) the maximum mmr you can have is the promotion line of the league you are in.

The memory reader that always fail on my because I use 64bit OS and 64bit Java?

I got 0/7 when I started today, now I got 0/11 or something and since I'm very low bronze and I'd guess all my games are capped from now and forever.

No 64bit Java support for memory reader. Supports 32 bit JVM.

Edit: and don't give up hope. Sooner or later...


Does this mean that if I have the 64 bit Java installed, that the memory reader won't work?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 00:23:01
September 18 2012 00:22 GMT
#1734
On September 18 2012 09:10 maLaK1 wrote:
I'm top 10 in my division, but my MMR in the tool is at 1471 / barely above min diamond level,

didnt blizzard implement the thing were if youre top 10 youre in the top 10% of all diamond players?

shoulnt I be closer to the master line then?, opponents I play are mid to high diamond


whats your account name?

On September 18 2012 09:21 shadogi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 04:37 korona wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:29 Alnius wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:00 skeldark wrote:
( i hope you use memory reader) the maximum mmr you can have is the promotion line of the league you are in.

The memory reader that always fail on my because I use 64bit OS and 64bit Java?

I got 0/7 when I started today, now I got 0/11 or something and since I'm very low bronze and I'd guess all my games are capped from now and forever.

No 64bit Java support for memory reader. Supports 32 bit JVM.

Edit: and don't give up hope. Sooner or later...


Does this mean that if I have the 64 bit Java installed, that the memory reader won't work?

yes. exactly. It workes with java32 on a 64 system
Save gaming: kill esport
maLaK1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany124 Posts
September 18 2012 00:34 GMT
#1735
On September 18 2012 09:22 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 09:10 maLaK1 wrote:
I'm top 10 in my division, but my MMR in the tool is at 1471 / barely above min diamond level,

didnt blizzard implement the thing were if youre top 10 youre in the top 10% of all diamond players?

shoulnt I be closer to the master line then?, opponents I play are mid to high diamond


whats your account name?

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 09:21 shadogi wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:37 korona wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:29 Alnius wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:00 skeldark wrote:
( i hope you use memory reader) the maximum mmr you can have is the promotion line of the league you are in.

The memory reader that always fail on my because I use 64bit OS and 64bit Java?

I got 0/7 when I started today, now I got 0/11 or something and since I'm very low bronze and I'd guess all my games are capped from now and forever.

No 64bit Java support for memory reader. Supports 32 bit JVM.

Edit: and don't give up hope. Sooner or later...


Does this mean that if I have the 64 bit Java installed, that the memory reader won't work?

yes. exactly. It workes with java32 on a 64 system


its malaki I dropped to 11 now
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 00:43:51
September 18 2012 00:43 GMT
#1736
On September 18 2012 09:34 maLaK1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 09:22 skeldark wrote:
On September 18 2012 09:10 maLaK1 wrote:
I'm top 10 in my division, but my MMR in the tool is at 1471 / barely above min diamond level,

didnt blizzard implement the thing were if youre top 10 youre in the top 10% of all diamond players?

shoulnt I be closer to the master line then?, opponents I play are mid to high diamond


whats your account name?

On September 18 2012 09:21 shadogi wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:37 korona wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:29 Alnius wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:00 skeldark wrote:
( i hope you use memory reader) the maximum mmr you can have is the promotion line of the league you are in.

The memory reader that always fail on my because I use 64bit OS and 64bit Java?

I got 0/7 when I started today, now I got 0/11 or something and since I'm very low bronze and I'd guess all my games are capped from now and forever.

No 64bit Java support for memory reader. Supports 32 bit JVM.

Edit: and don't give up hope. Sooner or later...


Does this mean that if I have the 64 bit Java installed, that the memory reader won't work?

yes. exactly. It workes with java32 on a 64 system


its malaki I dropped to 11 now


You are low diamond playing low diamond.
Why you see yourself top diamond in bnet?
Why you see yourself still top dia after blizzard said its different now?
Because the whole system is designed to show you this lie and their announcements are guess what, just lies!
Thats the reason i created this tool.
Save gaming: kill esport
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 05:00:11
September 18 2012 04:59 GMT
#1737
New version will inlucde an bugfix for the only know bug that is unfixed since version 1.0....
Save gaming: kill esport
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
September 18 2012 07:20 GMT
#1738
oops, it seems like CN server is not supported.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 18 2012 07:25 GMT
#1739
On September 18 2012 16:20 heaveshade wrote:
oops, it seems like CN server is not supported.

Kind of No.
I have code for china in the program but not everywhere and im not able to read the china webserver.
Becausei never had someone from china using it.
Save gaming: kill esport
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 07:25:26
September 18 2012 07:25 GMT
#1740
double
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