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6.0 OUT!
Blizzard finally removed tiers from the ladder system (after we are able to calculate them...).
So in future, this tool will be more accurate for players under master.
But first i need some data about the new season, to detect the hidden changes.
There are always hidden changes...
The data you collect with 6.0 should still be valid.
Even if there are mistakes because of hidden changes i should be able to fix the data,
with the next version
If everything goes well, i will update the version fast and this tool will show your VERY ACCURATE MMR for all leagues in future.
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Ok...
I get games in my database from different servers and leagues (sadly no KR yet) and no complain so far.
So i hope that means the values are not total inaccurate.
Looks like Notthat calculated even with tiers very accurate numbers for the league offsets.
I will watch over the data tomorrow.
If something went wrong or if my program become intelligent over night and try to take over the world, let me know.
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Skeldark, I downloaded the new version and it changed my MMR from 1656 to 1611 (without me playing any games). Is this a correction change? I have no yet played any games since downloading new version.
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On September 13 2012 09:26 FCLogan wrote:
Skeldark, I downloaded the new version and it changed my MMR from 1656 to 1611 (without me playing any games). Is this a correction change? I have no yet played any games since downloading new version.
I recalculated all old games final with latest analyser version (with finetuner forced on).
They will stay forever like this now ( sorry  .
However there where so many bugs in the league lock this season, i dont trust the data collected in the lock.
On September 13 2012 09:27 mogoh wrote:Seems to me, that I have lost points lately ... + Show Spoiler +
There was a message when you upgraded your data to the new version.
I promised long time ago to never delete gamedata.
So im forced to write the dataupgrader...
All old data is recalcuated with the old method and "hardcoded" from now on.
New collected data can show the value -9999 until you get a "good game".
As soon as you have one, all new data will show the correct value!
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On September 13 2012 09:33 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 09:26 FCLogan wrote:
Skeldark, I downloaded the new version and it changed my MMR from 1656 to 1611 (without me playing any games). Is this a correction change? I have no yet played any games since downloading new version. I recalculated all old games final with latest analyser version (with finetuner forced on). They will stay forever like this now ( sorry . However there where so many bugs in the league lock this season, i dont trust the data collected in the lock. There was a message when you upgraded your data to the new version.
I promised long time ago to never delete gamedata.
So im forced to write the dataupgrader...
All old data is recalcuated with the old method and "hardcoded" from now on.
New collected data can show the value -9999 until you get a "good game".
As soon as you have one, all new data will show the correct value!
I am sorry, i did not read correctly.
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I am sorry, i did not read correctly.
You shall be forgiven!
Nah serious, i know it looks a little bit shitty, but i was just to lazy to program a waiting screen for this special situation.
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ahhh, everything is fine again. =) thx
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Did blizzard do something to mmr?
http://i.imgur.com/hO7wc.jpg
There's a good game during that huge drop. I just don't understand how that could have happened.
(I was a 1.2k master, dropped to 1k before the new season, got demoted to diamond at the start of this one)
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is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?
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On September 13 2012 11:05 skeldark wrote:
is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?
After I ran the updater thing, it had the big drop + 3 games (all in a straight line beside the drop, which was around 0 or so mmr). I won a game to see if it changed, and now it looks like that.
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On September 13 2012 11:06 InfCereal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 11:05 skeldark wrote:
is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?
After I ran the updater thing, it had the big drop + 3 games (all in a straight line beside the drop, which was around 0 or so mmr). I won a game to see if it changed, and now it looks like that.
Have to go to sleep. Will check the whole data tomorrow.
Can you play some games. Only one game of this season can be a mistake.
That the drop is allready in the old data and is than confirmed by the new data is strange tho.
Old and new data are right next to each other in the graph.
But the data dont interact with each other at all!
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On September 13 2012 11:14 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 11:06 InfCereal wrote:On September 13 2012 11:05 skeldark wrote:
is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?
After I ran the updater thing, it had the big drop + 3 games (all in a straight line beside the drop, which was around 0 or so mmr). I won a game to see if it changed, and now it looks like that. Have to go to sleep. Will check the whole data tomorrow. Can you play some games. Only one game of this season can be a mistake. That the drop is allready in the old data and is than confirmed by the new data is strange tho. Old and new data are right next to each other in the graph. But the data dont interact with each other at all!
It doesn't coincide with the new season either. My first game was that the second closest loss. (L-W-L-W(dropped)-W-W-W-W)
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After the update it made a copy of my stats (http://i.imgur.com/Cnaee.jpg), is there any easy way to delete the first 86 (old) games since there are newer copies of them with the proper mmr now?
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Seem's like i lost points drasticly too.... normal or weird?
And i did get a good game...
(do you need the screenshot?)
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On September 13 2012 14:00 Maxamix wrote:
Seem's like i lost points drasticly too.... normal or weird?
And i did get a good game...
(do you need the screenshot?)
Mine dropped a bit too but then jumped back up after few games. So can't complain. ^^
http://i.imgur.com/YoZc2.jpg
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On September 13 2012 21:56 InfCereal wrote:So, in my ever growing skepticism of the accuracy of my graph, I checked out the last guy I played's career history. I played this guy: http://i.imgur.com/aD4EL.jpgAccording to sc2gears, he in low diamond: http://i.imgur.com/ktglZ.jpg (Last game)
Then again accuracy is not the main problem at the moment. If the core data (ladder points, points gained, unused bonus pool, adjusted points etc.) are recorded correctly the analysis part can be fixed later. I would presume it is more important now just to play and record data. And based on all data it can be checked if there were other hidden changes to the ladder system than just the removal of skill tiers and did the offsets change. And based on it fixes to the tool can be made. But before that people should not trust the graphs regarding S9 games too much, but play games to provide more data for analysis...
Skeldark: when you have time could you post the format of games_new.dat? There are 7 new fields (2 are for hardcoded MMRs). It would be interesting to know what the other 5 are for.
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awwwwwwwww yah, my MMR level is under 9000!
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On September 13 2012 23:40 Nightsz wrote:
awwwwwwwww yah, my MMR level is under 9000!
Everyone's MMR is under 9000. The highest players reach about 3300.
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