• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:18
CEST 10:18
KST 17:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 20252Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202579RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder1EWC 2025 - Replay Pack1Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced26BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 Serral wins EWC 2025 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign Dewalt's Show Matches in China BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
How many questions are in the Publix survey?
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 685 users

Match Making Rating Tool - Page 81

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 207 Next
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 21:24:42
September 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#1601
6.0 OUT!
Blizzard finally removed tiers from the ladder system (after we are able to calculate them...).
So in future, this tool will be more accurate for players under master.

But first i need some data about the new season, to detect the hidden changes.
There are always hidden changes...
The data you collect with 6.0 should still be valid.
Even if there are mistakes because of hidden changes i should be able to fix the data,
with the next version

If everything goes well, i will update the version fast and this tool will show your VERY ACCURATE MMR for all leagues in future.
Save gaming: kill esport
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 00:07:25
September 13 2012 00:01 GMT
#1602
Ok...
I get games in my database from different servers and leagues (sadly no KR yet) and no complain so far.
So i hope that means the values are not total inaccurate.
Looks like Notthat calculated even with tiers very accurate numbers for the league offsets.
I will watch over the data tomorrow.
If something went wrong or if my program become intelligent over night and try to take over the world, let me know.
Save gaming: kill esport
FCLogan
Profile Joined August 2012
49 Posts
September 13 2012 00:26 GMT
#1603
Skeldark, I downloaded the new version and it changed my MMR from 1656 to 1611 (without me playing any games). Is this a correction change? I have no yet played any games since downloading new version.
mogoh
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany109 Posts
September 13 2012 00:27 GMT
#1604
Seems to me, that I have lost points lately ...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 00:40:06
September 13 2012 00:33 GMT
#1605
On September 13 2012 09:26 FCLogan wrote:
Skeldark, I downloaded the new version and it changed my MMR from 1656 to 1611 (without me playing any games). Is this a correction change? I have no yet played any games since downloading new version.

I recalculated all old games final with latest analyser version (with finetuner forced on).
They will stay forever like this now ( sorry .
However there where so many bugs in the league lock this season, i dont trust the data collected in the lock.


On September 13 2012 09:27 mogoh wrote:
Seems to me, that I have lost points lately ...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


There was a message when you upgraded your data to the new version.


I promised long time ago to never delete gamedata.
So im forced to write the dataupgrader...
All old data is recalcuated with the old method and "hardcoded" from now on.

New collected data can show the value -9999 until you get a "good game".
As soon as you have one, all new data will show the correct value!
Save gaming: kill esport
mogoh
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany109 Posts
September 13 2012 00:48 GMT
#1606
On September 13 2012 09:33 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 09:26 FCLogan wrote:
Skeldark, I downloaded the new version and it changed my MMR from 1656 to 1611 (without me playing any games). Is this a correction change? I have no yet played any games since downloading new version.

I recalculated all old games final with latest analyser version (with finetuner forced on).
They will stay forever like this now ( sorry .
However there where so many bugs in the league lock this season, i dont trust the data collected in the lock.


Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 09:27 mogoh wrote:
Seems to me, that I have lost points lately ...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


There was a message when you upgraded your data to the new version.


I promised long time ago to never delete gamedata.
So im forced to write the dataupgrader...
All old data is recalcuated with the old method and "hardcoded" from now on.

New collected data can show the value -9999 until you get a "good game".
As soon as you have one, all new data will show the correct value!



I am sorry, i did not read correctly.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 00:53:40
September 13 2012 00:52 GMT
#1607
I am sorry, i did not read correctly.


You shall be forgiven!
Nah serious, i know it looks a little bit shitty, but i was just to lazy to program a waiting screen for this special situation.
Save gaming: kill esport
mogoh
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany109 Posts
September 13 2012 01:24 GMT
#1608
ahhh, everything is fine again. =) thx
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 02:04:32
September 13 2012 02:02 GMT
#1609
Did blizzard do something to mmr?

http://i.imgur.com/hO7wc.jpg

There's a good game during that huge drop. I just don't understand how that could have happened.
(I was a 1.2k master, dropped to 1k before the new season, got demoted to diamond at the start of this one)
Cereal
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 13 2012 02:05 GMT
#1610
is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?
Save gaming: kill esport
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
September 13 2012 02:06 GMT
#1611
On September 13 2012 11:05 skeldark wrote:
is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?



After I ran the updater thing, it had the big drop + 3 games (all in a straight line beside the drop, which was around 0 or so mmr). I won a game to see if it changed, and now it looks like that.
Cereal
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 02:15:55
September 13 2012 02:14 GMT
#1612
On September 13 2012 11:06 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 11:05 skeldark wrote:
is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?



After I ran the updater thing, it had the big drop + 3 games (all in a straight line beside the drop, which was around 0 or so mmr). I won a game to see if it changed, and now it looks like that.

Have to go to sleep. Will check the whole data tomorrow.
Can you play some games. Only one game of this season can be a mistake.
That the drop is allready in the old data and is than confirmed by the new data is strange tho.


Old and new data are right next to each other in the graph.
But the data dont interact with each other at all!
Save gaming: kill esport
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
September 13 2012 02:18 GMT
#1613
On September 13 2012 11:14 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 11:06 InfCereal wrote:
On September 13 2012 11:05 skeldark wrote:
is the drop between your old and the new data or is it all data of version 6?



After I ran the updater thing, it had the big drop + 3 games (all in a straight line beside the drop, which was around 0 or so mmr). I won a game to see if it changed, and now it looks like that.

Have to go to sleep. Will check the whole data tomorrow.
Can you play some games. Only one game of this season can be a mistake.
That the drop is allready in the old data and is than confirmed by the new data is strange tho.


Old and new data are right next to each other in the graph.
But the data dont interact with each other at all!



It doesn't coincide with the new season either. My first game was that the second closest loss. (L-W-L-W(dropped)-W-W-W-W)
Cereal
frnd
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1 Post
September 13 2012 04:33 GMT
#1614
After the update it made a copy of my stats (http://i.imgur.com/Cnaee.jpg), is there any easy way to delete the first 86 (old) games since there are newer copies of them with the proper mmr now?
"Keep it based." - Lil B "The BasedGod"
Maxamix
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada165 Posts
September 13 2012 05:00 GMT
#1615
Seem's like i lost points drasticly too.... normal or weird?

And i did get a good game...

(do you need the screenshot?)
pulperi
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland87 Posts
September 13 2012 11:00 GMT
#1616
On September 13 2012 14:00 Maxamix wrote:
Seem's like i lost points drasticly too.... normal or weird?

And i did get a good game...

(do you need the screenshot?)


Mine dropped a bit too but then jumped back up after few games. So can't complain. ^^

http://i.imgur.com/YoZc2.jpg
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
September 13 2012 12:56 GMT
#1617
So, in my ever growing skepticism of the accuracy of my graph, I checked out the last guy I played's career history.

I played this guy: http://i.imgur.com/aD4EL.jpg

According to sc2gears, he in low diamond: http://i.imgur.com/ktglZ.jpg (Last game)
Cereal
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 14:37:41
September 13 2012 14:34 GMT
#1618
On September 13 2012 21:56 InfCereal wrote:
So, in my ever growing skepticism of the accuracy of my graph, I checked out the last guy I played's career history.

I played this guy: http://i.imgur.com/aD4EL.jpg

According to sc2gears, he in low diamond: http://i.imgur.com/ktglZ.jpg (Last game)

Then again accuracy is not the main problem at the moment. If the core data (ladder points, points gained, unused bonus pool, adjusted points etc.) are recorded correctly the analysis part can be fixed later. I would presume it is more important now just to play and record data. And based on all data it can be checked if there were other hidden changes to the ladder system than just the removal of skill tiers and did the offsets change. And based on it fixes to the tool can be made. But before that people should not trust the graphs regarding S9 games too much, but play games to provide more data for analysis...


Skeldark: when you have time could you post the format of games_new.dat? There are 7 new fields (2 are for hardcoded MMRs). It would be interesting to know what the other 5 are for.
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
September 13 2012 14:40 GMT
#1619
awwwwwwwww yah, my MMR level is under 9000!
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 13 2012 15:05 GMT
#1620
On September 13 2012 23:40 Nightsz wrote:
awwwwwwwww yah, my MMR level is under 9000!

Everyone's MMR is under 9000. The highest players reach about 3300.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 207 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 250
ProTech77
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3908
Killer 687
Larva 248
Leta 177
Sacsri 83
Dewaltoss 80
soO 79
zelot 67
Backho 41
scan(afreeca) 27
[ Show more ]
sSak 19
sorry 15
Bale 8
Sharp 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 644
XcaliburYe246
BananaSlamJamma186
League of Legends
JimRising 630
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K960
allub15
Other Games
singsing794
SortOf111
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta85
• Sammyuel 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota281
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling200
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
2h 42m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 1h
WardiTV European League
1d 7h
Online Event
1d 9h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.