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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 03:38:50
September 12 2012 03:35 GMT
#1581
On September 12 2012 12:23 SoleSteeler wrote:
The plugin appears to be still working for me, 3 games played and it's been going up and down with expected behaviour. (1435 to 1451, to 1466, to 1461). Got demoted to platinum though.

If he get bad games, he is kind of still working. The prediction maker is independent from the ladder so he makes still good predictions.
But if you get a good game he will correct the graph wrong.


Next version will have an option, where i can stop all clients from using the webserver and hold them on standby until the web-server is updated.
Save gaming: kill esport
FCLogan
Profile Joined August 2012
49 Posts
September 12 2012 05:35 GMT
#1582
Can I just mark all games as bad games for now till the new version? Will you still get good data to use to determine the information you need?
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 07:11:12
September 12 2012 06:01 GMT
#1583
On September 12 2012 14:35 FCLogan wrote:
Can I just mark all games as bad games for now till the new version? Will you still get good data to use to determine the information you need?


Marking bad is allways local. It dont affect my data.
I changed the seasonr to 11 so with this trick he will mark them bad anyways.

EDIT 1: NA webserver is online in season 9!

(i was worried they really rename season nr. but like i guessed they just rename them in the fronted of sc2 not in the system)

My new client is ready but i have to test him first.
Also i have to calculate the season start time down to 1 sec.

EDIT 2:The webserver did a timetravel! its back in season 8

EDIT 3: Welcome in the future! Season 9
(for now...)

EDIT4: future was yesterday! Season 8!

EDIT5: Timetravel is dangerous! the webserver killed his grandfather. No Seasondata

EDIT6: All fine now and i calculated the starttime
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BurningRanger
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany303 Posts
September 12 2012 07:13 GMT
#1584
Dang, should have told it to bring me a sports almanach from the past.
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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 13:09:11
September 12 2012 08:16 GMT
#1585
On September 12 2012 16:13 BurningRanger wrote:
Dang, should have told it to bring me a sports almanach from the past.

For the past? you mean the past of the far future what is the future again?
However if the blizzard webserver brings it to you (future or not) i would not bet my money on the results.
They can be wrong

First Testversion for the new system.

At the moment ONLY FOR NA.
If you use this, backup your data first!
If you have any problem report them here.

EDIT Testversion down found a bug
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Drimacus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany92 Posts
September 12 2012 09:08 GMT
#1586
Do you have an ETA for EU (Beta)-Version?
Thanks for your awesome work!

skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 13:33:44
September 12 2012 11:49 GMT
#1587
On September 12 2012 18:08 Drimacus wrote:
Do you have an ETA for EU (Beta)-Version?
Thanks for your awesome work!


The version is region independent but EU web server is still in season 8.

EDIT: Testversion B up.
A tester please upgrade manuel!
Thanks alot
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Namelless
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany38 Posts
September 12 2012 13:14 GMT
#1588
On September 12 2012 20:49 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 18:08 Drimacus wrote:
Do you have an ETA for EU (Beta)-Version?
Thanks for your awesome work!


The version is region independent but EU web server is still in season 8.

EDIT:
Testversion B up.
A tester please upgrade manuel!
Thanks alot



so it does not makes sense to upgrade the mmr-stats-plugin manually if i am playing on EU?

how wrong are the EU-results up to now since new season?

do you know when they usually update the season? so when you will bring out a new version for EU ^^
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 12 2012 13:19 GMT
#1589
On September 12 2012 22:14 Namelless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 20:49 skeldark wrote:
On September 12 2012 18:08 Drimacus wrote:
Do you have an ETA for EU (Beta)-Version?
Thanks for your awesome work!


The version is region independent but EU web server is still in season 8.

EDIT:
Testversion B up.
A tester please upgrade manuel!
Thanks alot



so it does not makes sense to upgrade the mmr-stats-plugin manually if i am playing on EU?

how wrong are the EU-results up to now since new season?

do you know when they usually update the season? so when you will bring out a new version for EU ^^

The results will not be 100% false the version can also destroy your data.
Its a test version!

Normal version + all regions should come tomorrow. Depends how long blizzard needs to change the servers.
Save gaming: kill esport
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 14:16:38
September 12 2012 14:14 GMT
#1590
Does the analyzer (v5.9) work only in 200 games chunks? Yesterday got 402 games recorded on my EU account and MMR for the 2 first matches changed considerably.

When 'Analyse' tab is checked there are three Alg F sections:
1) Player Alg.F+: games 203 - 402, 2) Alg F summary: games 3 - 202 and 3) Alg F summary: games 1 -2.

If I delete 2 games the MMR of those 2 first games changes back to normal (two alg F sections). So I presume the analyzer calculates MMRs separately for each 200 games chunk and as there is only 2 games in the last chunk (games 1-2), the MMR values are rough?


Edit: EU website was just updated for S9.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 17:11:28
September 12 2012 16:40 GMT
#1591
On September 12 2012 23:14 korona wrote:
Does the analyzer (v5.9) work only in 200 games chunks? Yesterday got 402 games recorded on my EU account and MMR for the 2 first matches changed considerably.

When 'Analyse' tab is checked there are three Alg F sections:
1) Player Alg.F+: games 203 - 402, 2) Alg F summary: games 3 - 202 and 3) Alg F summary: games 1 -2.

If I delete 2 games the MMR of those 2 first games changes back to normal (two alg F sections). So I presume the analyzer calculates MMRs separately for each 200 games chunk and as there is only 2 games in the last chunk (games 1-2), the MMR values are rough?


Edit: EU website was just updated for S9.

I put this in because the analyser need exponential longer time with bigger chunks.
If everything works the analyser times are over ( kind of some analyse is still needed)


If eu started he will be in s9 in some hours.
Check my post above about us. They have to make a little timetravel first



EDIT:
I NEED HELP TO FIND OUT THE SEASONSTART.
blizzard dont use there normal start time this season!
If you could tell me when you see your unspend bonuspool increasing and post the GMT of this event and the server and league that would help a lot. ( dont have to exact on the second i will get the exact second from there)
Ingame would be even BETTER!
Save gaming: kill esport
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 17:31:50
September 12 2012 17:07 GMT
#1592
On September 13 2012 01:40 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 23:14 korona wrote:
Does the analyzer (v5.9) work only in 200 games chunks? Yesterday got 402 games recorded on my EU account and MMR for the 2 first matches changed considerably.

When 'Analyse' tab is checked there are three Alg F sections:
1) Player Alg.F+: games 203 - 402, 2) Alg F summary: games 3 - 202 and 3) Alg F summary: games 1 -2.

If I delete 2 games the MMR of those 2 first games changes back to normal (two alg F sections). So I presume the analyzer calculates MMRs separately for each 200 games chunk and as there is only 2 games in the last chunk (games 1-2), the MMR values are rough?


Edit: EU website was just updated for S9.

I put this in because the analyser need exponential longer time with bigger chunks.
If everything works the analyser times are over ( kind of some analyse is still needed)

Agreed. I presume it is also good to limit the chunks in-case of there is bad data in between. If there is time in the future, you might want to consider if the last chunk is small (e.g. less than 10 to 20 games), they would be added on top of the last 200 chunk for analysis.

EDIT: of course in the new ladder system skill tier analysis should not be needed anymore -> less computing time needed.

On September 13 2012 01:40 skeldark wrote:
EDIT:
I NEED HELP TO FIND OUT THE SEASONSTART.
blizzard dont use there normal start time this season!
If you could tell me when you see your unspend bonuspool increasing and post the GMT of this event and the server, that would help a lot. ( dont have to exact on the second i will get the exact second from there)
Ingame would be even BETTER!

Probably will play my placements tomorrow and check the season start times based on bonus pools with in-game client then. Last night I was idling on EU server when the season change happened. It was around 03:00 CEST (at 02:48 was old season and when I checked next time 03:10 the new season had started).
acidbean
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 17:16:17
September 12 2012 17:07 GMT
#1593
19:05 CET 1 additional bonuspoint (4 already spent)

Goldnoob
pulperi
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 17:11:31
September 12 2012 17:09 GMT
#1594
On September 13 2012 01:40 skeldark wrote:

EDIT:
I NEED HELP TO FIND OUT THE SEASONSTART.
blizzard dont use there normal start time this season!
If you could tell me when you see your unspend bonuspool increasing and post the GMT of this event and the server, that would help a lot. ( dont have to exact on the second i will get the exact second from there)
Ingame would be even BETTER!


My ingame bonus pool just increased with 1.
17:06 gmt


edit: diamond
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 17:19:29
September 12 2012 17:10 GMT
#1595
Master or Under master? forgot to mention that. Its important.

thx. will calculate back


EDIT: sc2ranks is down.
I need accounts of master players on EU, SEA and KR who are already placed in a division after seasonstart.
Thanks!
Save gaming: kill esport
Mendelfist
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden356 Posts
September 12 2012 17:55 GMT
#1596
On September 13 2012 01:40 skeldark wrote:
EDIT:
I NEED HELP TO FIND OUT THE SEASONSTART.
blizzard dont use there normal start time this season!
If you could tell me when you see your unspend bonuspool increasing and post the GMT of this event and the server and league that would help a lot. ( dont have to exact on the second i will get the exact second from there)
Ingame would be even BETTER!


You can change your computers system clock to check this very accurately. The SC2 client doesn't get the total bonus pool from the server. It calculates it locally.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 12 2012 18:03 GMT
#1597
On September 13 2012 02:55 Mendelfist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 01:40 skeldark wrote:
EDIT:
I NEED HELP TO FIND OUT THE SEASONSTART.
blizzard dont use there normal start time this season!
If you could tell me when you see your unspend bonuspool increasing and post the GMT of this event and the server and league that would help a lot. ( dont have to exact on the second i will get the exact second from there)
Ingame would be even BETTER!


You can change your computers system clock to check this very accurately. The SC2 client doesn't get the total bonus pool from the server. It calculates it locally.

So do i. lol.
Oh did not know that. So they send the startdate. Sadly i dont have accounts for all server.

Save gaming: kill esport
Mendelfist
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden356 Posts
September 12 2012 18:25 GMT
#1598
On September 13 2012 03:03 skeldark wrote:
Oh did not know that. So they send the startdate.

Yes, and I really don't know why they do that. The server has to know the remaining bonus pool for every player anyway (to calculate the score), so why not send that instead? I don't get it.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 19:03:42
September 12 2012 18:37 GMT
#1599
On September 13 2012 03:25 Mendelfist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 03:03 skeldark wrote:
Oh did not know that. So they send the startdate.

Yes, and I really don't know why they do that. The server has to know the remaining bonus pool for every player anyway (to calculate the score), so why not send that instead? I don't get it.

The MMR server dont talk directly to the system i think.
Everything you see on webpage / ingame, is from second hand. The system calculate independent and upload later to a db.
The clients read from that db. This is not allways in time. So if you calculate it on your own you are more accurate than asking the db.

Thats also the reason why i calculate everything i can on my own. Because i have to take it from third hand ( the webserver).

EDIT: Have all times 3 min exact. Not good enough for public but good enough to test some basic stuff.
Save gaming: kill esport
Mendelfist
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden356 Posts
September 12 2012 19:11 GMT
#1600
On September 13 2012 03:37 skeldark wrote:
The MMR server dont talk directly to the system i think.
Everything you see on webpage / ingame, is from second hand. The system calculate independent and upload later to a db.
The clients read from that db. This is not allways in time. So if you calculate it on your own you are more accurate than asking the db.

Yes that makes sense. I think you are right.
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