Match Making Rating Tool - Page 182

Xylocaine

France56 Posts

March 06 2014 19:37 GMT

#3621

Are the EU servers still borked ? 3 games and it seems to me that the plugin has a hard time checking for profiles or something.

LOG FILE:
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19:48:57 MMR-Stats 10.1
19:48:57 --------INIT START--------
19:48:57 OK File-Encoding UTF-8
19:48:57 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
19:48:57 Loading HOTS DB file...
19:48:57 OK Loading DB version 17.4 done
19:48:58 OK DB up to date!
19:48:58 Loading character profiles:
19:48:58 Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
19:48:58 OK Settings loaded!
19:48:58 OK Gamedata: 0 Games loaded.
19:48:58 Loading Archive...
19:48:58 OK Gamedata: 7 Games loaded.
19:48:58 Memory scanner is enabled
19:48:58 OK Triggers ready!
19:49:00 OK: Program is up to date
19:49:00 --------INIT END--------
19:50:12 --------------------------
19:50:12 Game Start detected
19:50:12 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
19:50:12 Reading Memory ...OK
19:50:12 Ramscanner: name1 :
19:50:12 Ramscanner: id1 :
19:50:12 Ramscanner: name2 :
19:50:12 Ramscanner: id2 :
19:50:12 ERROR: Could not find memory profile for the opponent!
Perhaps its just a custom game...
19:50:52 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
19:50:56 Webgrabber: Player true
19:50:56 No Profile, skip
19:50:56 Webgrabber: Opponent false
19:50:56 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
19:50:56 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
19:50:56 Pre-Trigger: player 2:

19:50:56 Pre-Trigger done
19:50:56 Post-trigger: Start
19:51:36 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
19:51:38 Webgrabber: Player true
19:51:41 Webgrabber: Opponent true
19:51:41 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
19:51:41 Bonus calc (ooENRAGEoo diam-): max end: 951, max fetch: 951
19:51:41 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
19:51:41 ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened! http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
19:51:41 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
19:51:41 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4182379/1/ooENRAGEoo/
19:51:41 A -9999 B -9999

19:51:41
19:51:41 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4182379/1/ooENRAGEoo/
19:51:41 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
19:51:41 Gamecheck: false
19:51:41 GAME:
HotS
19:51:41 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-234874
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: artika kappa
Main race: z
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Frost LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 1
Looses: 1
points: 0
bonus: 951
change_points: 0
adjusted_points: 0

19:51:41 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: HotS
server:
league: error
division_name: error
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: error
mapname: error
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

19:51:41 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-234874
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: artika kappa
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Frost LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 1
Looses: 1
points: 0
bonus: 951
change_points: 0
adjusted_points: 0

19:51:41 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-4182379
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4182379/1/ooENRAGEoo/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: dylar iota
Main race: p
Game race: t
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Frost LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 39
Looses: 63
points: 1021
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 70

19:51:41 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1394131836630
VALID: false
Result for player 1: L
--- GAMEEND ---

19:51:41 POST-Trigger done
19:51:41 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
19:51:41 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
19:51:41 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
19:51:42 OK Uploader: game uploaded
19:51:42 Ladder Game Done!
19:51:42 --------------------------
19:54:37 --------------------------
19:54:37 Game Start detected
19:54:37 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
19:54:37 Reading Memory ...OK
19:54:37 Ramscanner: name1 :
19:54:37 Ramscanner: id1 :
19:54:37 Ramscanner: name2 :
19:54:37 Ramscanner: id2 :
19:54:37 ERROR: Could not find memory profile for the opponent!
Perhaps its just a custom game...
19:55:17 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
19:55:19 Webgrabber: Player true
19:55:19 No Profile, skip
19:55:19 Webgrabber: Opponent false
19:55:19 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
19:55:19 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
19:55:19 Pre-Trigger: player 2:

19:55:19 Pre-Trigger done
20:12:01 Post-trigger: Start
20:12:41 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
20:12:44 Webgrabber: Player true
20:12:47 Webgrabber: Opponent true
20:12:47 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
20:12:47 Bonus calc (Alx diam-): max end: 951, max fetch: 951
20:12:47 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
20:12:47 ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened! http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
20:12:47 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
20:12:47 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1064914/2/Alx/
20:12:47 A -9999 B -9999

20:12:47
20:12:47 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1064914/2/Alx/
20:12:47 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid
20:12:47 Gamecheck: false
20:12:47 GAME:
HotS
20:12:47 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-234874
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: artika kappa
Main race: z
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Frost LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 1
Looses: 1
points: 0
bonus: 951
change_points: 0
adjusted_points: 0

20:12:47 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: HotS
server:
league: error
division_name: error
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: error
mapname: error
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

20:12:47 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 1-234874
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: artika kappa
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Frost LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 1
Looses: 1
points: 0
bonus: 951
change_points: 30
adjusted_points: 0

20:12:47 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 2-1064914
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1064914/2/Alx/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: praetor theta
Main race: t
Game race: t
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Frost LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 114
Looses: 116
points: 1023
bonus: 0
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 72

20:12:47 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1394133119271
VALID: false
Result for player 1: W
--- GAMEEND ---

20:12:47 POST-Trigger done
20:12:47 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
20:12:47 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
20:12:47 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50% 
20:12:48 OK Uploader: game uploaded
20:12:48 Ladder Game Done!
20:12:48 --------------------------
20:23:09 --------------------------
20:23:09 Game Start detected
20:23:09 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
20:23:09 Reading Memory ...OK
20:23:09 Ramscanner: name1 :
20:23:09 Ramscanner: id1 :
20:23:09 Ramscanner: name2 :
20:23:09 Ramscanner: id2 :
20:23:09 ERROR: Could not find memory profile for the opponent!
Perhaps its just a custom game...
20:23:49 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
20:23:52 Webgrabber: Player true
20:23:52 No Profile, skip
20:23:52 Webgrabber: Opponent false
20:23:52 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
20:23:52 Pre-Trigger: player 1:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
20:23:52 Pre-Trigger: player 2:

20:23:52 Pre-Trigger done
20:29:39 Post-trigger: Start
20:30:19 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
20:30:22 Webgrabber: Player true
20:30:25 Webgrabber: Opponent true
20:30:25 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
20:30:25 Bonus calc (MissMaximova diam-): max end: 951, max fetch: 951
20:30:25 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
20:30:25 DATA Alg. A : success: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
20:30:25 DATA Alg.B: success:http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
20:30:25 A 14 B 14

20:30:25
20:30:25 DATA Alg. A : failed, No pre-game data (RAM scanner possibly off) or pre-game data bad:
20:30:25 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/662383/2/MissMaximova/
20:30:25 A -9999 B -9999

20:30:25
20:30:25 ERROR AFTERCHECK Both alg. A and B failed: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/662383/2/MissMaximova/
20:30:25 Gamecheck: true
20:30:25 GAME:
HotS
20:30:25 PREPLAYER 1:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-234874
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: artika kappa
Main race: z
Game race: unkown
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Frost LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 2
Looses: 1
points: 30
bonus: 936
change_points: 30
adjusted_points: 15

20:30:25 PREPLAYER 2:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id:
playerlink:
game: HotS
server:
league: error
division_name: error
Main race: unkown
Game race: unkown
gamedate: error
mapname: error
totalbonuspool: -9999
Wins: -9999
Looses: -9999
points: -9999
bonus: -9999
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: -9999

20:30:25 POSTPLAYER 1:
Data: false
Reading: false
Adjusted: true
Dmmr: false
id: 1-234874
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/234874/1/Xylocaine/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: artika kappa
Main race: z
Game race: z
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Heavy Rain LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 3
Looses: 1
points: 58
bonus: 922
change_points: 14
adjusted_points: 29

20:30:25 POSTPLAYER 2:
Data: true
Reading: true
Adjusted: false
Dmmr: false
id: 2-662383
playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/662383/2/MissMaximova/
game: HotS
server: EU
league: silver
division_name: swann alpha
Main race: p
Game race: p
gamedate: 6/3/2014
mapname: Heavy Rain LE
totalbonuspool: 951
Wins: 20
Looses: 21
points: 547
bonus: 447
change_points: -9999
adjusted_points: 43

20:30:25 Dataset: (GAME: HotS)
--- GAMESTART ---
TIME: 1394134176935
VALID: true
Result for player 1: W
--- GAMEEND ---

20:30:25 POST-Trigger done
20:30:25 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
20:30:25 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 50% 
20:30:25 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 75% 
20:30:26 OK Uploader: game uploaded
20:30:26 Ladder Game Done!
20:30:26 --------------------------

It's the "ERROR: Could not find memory profile for the opponent!" that got me guessing... And it doesn't seem to happen on every check?

Note that this was an old SC2Gears / plugin install that I had on another PC (and that I think I never ran on the one I'm using now). Last time I used them was in August, memreader had no trouble at all. I updated but SC2Gears, then the plugin, then restarted SC2Gears... and now it seems like I have a problem :/
Do I need to do a fresh install ? Or just wait it out until Blizzard fix their s**t ?

korona

1098 Posts

March 06 2014 20:49 GMT

#3622

On March 07 2014 04:37 Xylocaine wrote:
Are the EU servers still borked ? 3 games and it seems to me that the plugin has a hard time checking for profiles or something.

LOG FILE:
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The earlier problem where the web profiles were updating out of sync has likely been fixed. For example that "WEBSERVER no update happened!" was caused by very short game (the game end result had already been updated when the tool fetched pre-game data, the tool waits 40 seconds before fetching).

But the memory reader part needs more research. Blizzard did release a small patch during the weekly maintenance. I wonder if they changed the memory addresses... But I am too tired to check now, will check tomorrow.

Edit: The update process should not break anything. It might be that the memory addresses are incorrect due to the SC2 patch...

Xylocaine

France56 Posts

March 06 2014 21:03 GMT

#3623

Well sorry to put it in an ignorant's terms, but am I the only getting this, and is there anything I can do about it? xD

korona

1098 Posts

March 06 2014 21:09 GMT

#3624

On March 07 2014 06:03 Xylocaine wrote:
Well sorry to put it in an ignorant's terms, but am I the only getting this, and is there anything I can do about it? xD

If the memory addresses were changed in Yesterday's SC2 patch, then it will give that error to everyone. But as I said I will check that Tomorrow. Of course somebody that is using the memory reader could comment in the meantime, if the memory reader cannot read the player data anymore (memory reader results are shown in the 'Game Log' tab of the 'Log' that can be opened from the top toolbar).

But if the cause is due changed memory addresses, then the new ones will be solved and a DB file containing them will be released. But will have to wait...

Xylocaine

France56 Posts

March 06 2014 21:23 GMT

#3625

Sorry, didn't mean to rush you, I just didn't fully understand your answer and its implications lol
And thanks for your work on the plugin by the way

emathey

10 Posts

March 06 2014 23:57 GMT

#3626

korona,
If you want to take a look at it my BNet profile is http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/888619/1/emathey

I've played 121 games since the 11th of March, 13 good games, and I've been above the Diamond line since the 3rd and have played roughly 24 games since then, 2 of them being good. I'm not complaining, just curious. The MMR plug in is awesome, thanks for contributing your time.

korona

1098 Posts

March 07 2014 05:07 GMT

#3627

2014-03-07: New DB file (version 17.5) has been published

Please update the DB file by restarting SC2Gears. It updates the memory addresses for memory reader (Blizzard had changed the addresses with their SC2 patch 2.1.1). Thanks for InfCereal for solving the new addresses.

korona

1098 Posts

March 07 2014 05:19 GMT

#3628

On March 07 2014 06:03 Xylocaine wrote:
Well sorry to put it in an ignorant's terms, but am I the only getting this, and is there anything I can do about it? xD

You were not the only one getting the error. Blizzard had indeed changed the memory addresses. Thank you for letting me know. Please restart Sc2gears to download a new DB file that fixes the memory reader addresses.

On March 07 2014 08:57 emathey wrote:
korona,
If you want to take a look at it my BNet profile is http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/888619/1/emathey

I've played 121 games since the 11th of March, 13 good games, and I've been above the Diamond line since the 3rd and have played roughly 24 games since then, 2 of them being good. I'm not complaining, just curious. The MMR plug in is awesome, thanks for contributing your time.

Thanks! I will check your data later this evening or during the weekend. No wonder why I did not find data from you Yesterday as you have just changed your SC2 character name (did check based on Wednesday's data). But that is no problem as I now know your bnet ID.

emathey

10 Posts

March 07 2014 06:35 GMT

#3629

Hm. I haven't changed my starcraft name in many months, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. If there's any other data I can provide let me know, I don't have very many good games at all so I suspect it's just not calculating it correctly.

korona

1098 Posts

March 07 2014 06:45 GMT

#3630

On March 07 2014 15:35 emathey wrote:
Hm. I haven't changed my starcraft name in many months, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. If there's any other data I can provide let me know, I don't have very many good games at all so I suspect it's just not calculating it correctly.

Oh. It was other way around. You gave your old bnet character name in your last post. And the uploaded game data contain the new one

Will let you know via PMs if there is data I need to know, when I have time to check your data.

Wilko

Germany470 Posts

March 07 2014 06:56 GMT

#3631

Thanks for the update korona

Xylocaine

France56 Posts

March 07 2014 13:03 GMT

#3632

Well everything seems to be working like a charm, still needs more data (guess it's normal since that was my first game post-fix) but I saw no error message and profile fetching seemed to work well.
Thanks again for the quick response!

NiteshadeSC2

Canada98 Posts

March 08 2014 18:20 GMT

#3633

Seems my MMR tool isn't working right. Records and process all my wins, but doesn't recognize my losses..

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12:41:05 MMR-Stats 10.1
12:41:05 --------INIT START--------
12:41:05 OK Encoding: OK
12:41:05 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
12:41:05 Loading HOTS DB file...
12:41:05 OK Loading DB version 17.5 done
12:41:06 OK DB up to date!
12:41:06 Loading character profiles:
12:41:06 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/
12:41:06 Profile: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/4398903/1/Niteshade/
12:41:06 Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4135726/1/Niteshade/
12:41:06 OK Settings loaded!
12:41:06 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 0 sec
12:41:06 OK Gamedata: 190 Games loaded.
12:41:06 Loading Archive...
12:41:06 OK Gamedata: 165 Games loaded.
12:41:06 Memory scanner is enabled
12:41:06 OK Triggers ready!
12:41:08 OK: Program is up to date
12:41:08 --------INIT END--------
12:42:54 --------------------------
12:42:54 Game Start detected
12:42:54 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
12:42:54 Reading Memory ...OK
12:42:54 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
12:43:34 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
12:43:37 Webgrabber: Player true
12:43:40 Webgrabber: Opponent true
12:43:40 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
12:43:40 Pre-Trigger done
13:11:57 Post-trigger: Start
13:12:37 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
13:12:39 Webgrabber: Player true
13:12:42 Webgrabber: Opponent true
13:12:42 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
13:12:42 DATAERROR: 'UNRANKED' OR 'TIE' GAME. Data for this game is not saved
13:12:42 Ladder Game Done!
13:12:42 --------------------------
13:13:01 --------------------------
13:13:01 Game Start detected
13:13:01 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS
13:13:01 Reading Memory ...OK
13:13:01 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles!
13:13:41 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles
13:13:44 Webgrabber: Player true
13:13:46 Webgrabber: Opponent true
13:13:46 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles
13:13:46 Pre-Trigger done
13:18:43 Post-trigger: Start
13:19:23 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles
13:19:26 Webgrabber: Player true
13:19:28 Webgrabber: Opponent true
13:19:28 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles
13:19:28 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player)
13:19:28 ERROR PRECHECK Player: WEBSERVER no update happened! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/
13:19:28 DATA Alg. A : success: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1808905/1/Dualblades/
13:19:28 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1808905/1/Dualblades/
13:19:28 Gamecheck: true
13:19:28 POST-Trigger done
13:19:28 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR
13:19:28 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 75%
13:19:28 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 50%
13:19:30 OK Uploader: game uploaded
13:19:30 Ladder Game Done!
13:19:30 --------------------------

Thoughts?

Hydro033

United States136 Posts

March 08 2014 19:03 GMT

#3634

On March 09 2014 03:20 NiteshadeSC2 wrote:
Seems my MMR tool isn't working right. Records and process all my wins, but doesn't recognize my losses..

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Thoughts?

Mine seems to make no sense when I have it on. I am #2 diamond, but it says I am just barely into the diamond range... It said I was plat for awhile when I was diamond as well.

emathey

10 Posts

March 08 2014 21:39 GMT

#3635

Your standing within a particular division does not necessarily correlate with your standing within the entire league since you're only able to directly compare yourself with the other 99 people in the division which may not be a representative sample.

korona

1098 Posts

March 09 2014 12:29 GMT

#3636

On March 09 2014 03:20 NiteshadeSC2 wrote:
Seems my MMR tool isn't working right. Records and process all my wins, but doesn't recognize my losses..

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Thoughts?

Hmm. So the US web profiles are still updating out-of-sync? I thought / hoped Blizzard had it already fixed as I had not heard anything for a while & EU web profiles seemed to be fixed when I played some games earlier this week.

Learn more (there are descriptions regarding the 'unranked detection' in preceding posts): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20872334

(Of course you can verify that out-of-sync issue yourself. Before match load your match history and & ladder division page in a web browser in tabs. Do it twice so you have two windows containing the data. When the game ends immediately refresh the tabs in the other window and check the refreshed tabs. If either of the pages did not update, you can refresh it in intervals to see how long the delay is)).

On March 09 2014 04:03 Hydro033 wrote:

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On March 09 2014 03:20 NiteshadeSC2 wrote:
Seems my MMR tool isn't working right. Records and process all my wins, but doesn't recognize my losses..

+ Show Spoiler +

Thoughts?

Mine seems to make no sense when I have it on. I am #2 diamond, but it says I am just barely into the diamond range... It said I was plat for awhile when I was diamond as well.

That is normal. Your MMR can be in lower league range & you can still be at the top of your ladder division in your higher league. (I did not check your profile, but it is generally common that many top ranked players' MMR is close to low border of their league or is in lower league range).

This is also why there are often complaints when people are dropped at the start of new season. They think they are in high MMR range of their old league due to their division rank, when they actually are in lower league range. This confusion amongst players is even amplified due to the MMR decay (it is still there after the offset changes, but there is still not enough data to determine if the max decay is little smaller than before).

korona

1098 Posts

March 09 2014 17:01 GMT

#3637

Update regarding the web profile out-of-sync issue:

As NiteshadeSC2 few posts ago noticed, the web profiles are once again updating out-of-sync (match history updates immediately, but the division page after considerable delay). At least NA & EU servers are suffering from this. On NA server the situation seems to be quite grave. After my test game it took several minutes for the division page to update...

I may have to later set data lock in place that sets all matches bad (will inform you if I do so). I will try to prepare a new version of the MMR tool during the coming week, where I will slightly increase the data fetch delay (current delay is 40 sec) + add a backup file for the dropped games. But a 10 to 20 second delay increase will not solve the problem that it may take several minutes for parts of the web profiles to update. One can hope that Blizzard will fix their web profiles.

Edit: Played little more on NA. For some games the web profiles updated immediately. For some games it took several minutes for the ladder page to update.

Ziggy

South Korea2105 Posts

March 10 2014 11:24 GMT

#3638

Was wonderin, does anyone know what is the actual grandmaster mmr requirement right now, EU serv? Is it just like the mmr tool suggest, ~2200? Is it data collected from people or just an estimate made by the software?

korona

1098 Posts

March 10 2014 12:23 GMT

#3639

On March 10 2014 20:24 ZiggyPG wrote:
Was wonderin, does anyone know what is the actual grandmaster mmr requirement right now, EU serv? Is it just like the mmr tool suggest, ~2200? Is it data collected from people or just an estimate made by the software?

The true GM border is dynamic. There is not enough data to dynamically update the GM border for the MMR tool.

Thus I usually check the entry barrier for GM when GM opens in start of each season and that value is left to the MMR tool for the remainder of the season. The current borders were accurate for EU, NA and KR when GM opened for this season. Thought Blizzard has changed the league offsets after the start of this season, so there may be slight inaccuracy in the converted value.

The entry border has dropped slightly at the start of each new season for several seasons in a row for both EU and NA. It is likely that in start of the next season, the current value will be quite close.

For example this post contains the situation in the start of this season (please note that the numbers do not match to the current numbers as Blizzard changed league offsets after that): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20565355

Ziggy

South Korea2105 Posts

March 10 2014 18:35 GMT

#3640

Hmm, quite peculiar, you'd think the KR border is the highest, right? Well, I guess I can just keep on trying, still have about 3 weeks to get up with my mmr from 1700 to that rough 2050 :s It's gonna be harder than I actually hoped it would be..

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