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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 02 2012 12:23 GMT
#261
so it comes to this...
ok, lets do it!
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
May 02 2012 12:24 GMT
#262
So other than Kespa, are there any BW leagues that will remain after this, or is this the end?
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 02 2012 12:24 GMT
#263
On May 02 2012 21:24 Zorkmid wrote:
So other than Kespa, are there any BW leagues that will remain after this, or is this the end?


this is the end of korean broodwar TT
we have one more "half season" to enjoy
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 02 2012 12:26 GMT
#264
On May 02 2012 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:15 Gosi wrote:
Finally I can see korean casting in sc2.


I cannot wait to encounter the SC2 equivalent of PLAYYYYGUUUUUU!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
FUNGUUUUUUU!!!! ?


No, Moletrap will cast specially for all foreigners.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:42:50
May 02 2012 12:31 GMT
#265
So Brood War will just be a game, and nothing more. I feel depressed. The last OSL will probably be crap, too, because the players will practice both games.

It's time for Teamliquid to change its slogan to "Proffessional StarCraft 2 news" because there won't be anymore proffessional StarCraft 1.

All I can hope for now is that Blizzard makes StarCraft 2 good with Legacy of the void. If they don't make it a good replacement for Brood War (Not the same, but equally good) then StarCraft has been mutilated forever.

Esports will never be legitimate with shit like this. I felt like we actually had a chance with StarCraft. It lasted for so many years, and became deeper the longer time went on, like Chess. Chess now compared to hundreds of years ago is so different. Imagine what StarCraft could have become if it had lasted as long.

But no, we had to change game again. Esports will always be regarded as a fucking joke compared to normal sports, and games like chess, as long as this is the way it operates, and unless StarCraft 2 becomes as good as StarCraft 1 with the last expansion, StarCraft 2 will eventually be replaced by another game as well. Hell, even if it does become good apparently that's not enough, as we saw with StarCraft 1. There will never be a stable esports industry like football or basketball.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Alexstrasas
Profile Joined August 2010
302 Posts
May 02 2012 12:33 GMT
#266
On May 02 2012 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:15 Gosi wrote:
Finally I can see korean casting in sc2.


I cannot wait to encounter the SC2 equivalent of PLAYYYYGUUUUUU!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
FUNGUUUUUUU!!!! ?



Hope they dont pick anything up from the western casters

+ Show Spoiler +
BEAUTYFUUU FUNGUUUU, PERFECTU STORMUUU
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 02 2012 12:34 GMT
#267
On May 02 2012 21:26 ne4aJIb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:15 Gosi wrote:
Finally I can see korean casting in sc2.


I cannot wait to encounter the SC2 equivalent of PLAYYYYGUUUUUU!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
FUNGUUUUUUU!!!! ?


No, Moletrap will cast specially for all foreigners.

English casters is one of the worst part about this entire thing. I want the korean OGN commentators, damnit. >___________________<
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 02 2012 12:38 GMT
#268
On May 02 2012 21:34 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:26 ne4aJIb wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:15 Gosi wrote:
Finally I can see korean casting in sc2.


I cannot wait to encounter the SC2 equivalent of PLAYYYYGUUUUUU!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
FUNGUUUUUUU!!!! ?


No, Moletrap will cast specially for all foreigners.

English casters is one of the worst part about this entire thing. I want the korean OGN commentators, damnit. >___________________<

nanashin, the unsung hero of ESPORTS to save the day during the era of SC2?
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Jurassic
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary79 Posts
May 02 2012 12:39 GMT
#269
On May 02 2012 20:36 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 20:25 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:18 eviltomahawk wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:09 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:56 Sawamura wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:46 eviltomahawk wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:44 Rainfall7711 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:30 Sawamura wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:26 Rainfall7711 wrote:
[quote]

That's because there were no such god damn articles. Provide facts or gtfo.


There is but I don't have time to post it for you . Lazy bum


Claim something exists, won't provide links to it. Great argument you have there. I mean just do it? How hard is it? You have 0 credibility otherwise.

Here is one of the articles of you're so eager for proof:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323013&currentpage=77#1540

Again, it's mostly speculation, but it makes logical sense.


I've read all of these articles about the switch and no where does it say the majority of BW pros are depressed and unhappy about it. Nowhere does it say they're all going to quit either.


That you have got to ask this guy ..


On May 02 2012 16:40 sCCrooked wrote:
On May 02 2012 16:35 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 16:29 sCCrooked wrote:
On May 02 2012 16:13 Snowbear wrote:
People tend to forget that SC2 games are getting better and better. Some games even provide a BW-feeling.


There's so many people who would flat-out disagree with that second part, its not funny. You should hear what the BW pros said about sc2 and how many of them are incredibly depressed at this news, and even more are leaving esports altogether. Korea is going to keep rejecting this sad excuse for a successor no matter how much Blizzard/GOM try to shove it on us.



Take off your blinders. SC2 is evolving into quite a good game. Games were very boring and unimaginative during beta/early release; however, we are starting to see more and more complex games at the highest level.

What are BW pros currently saying about SC2? I am not interested in what they had to say during beta. What are they saying now that they are playing and practicing the game? I know that Flash, for example, is actually taking a liking to SC2.


Uh... Not really. A large majority of BW pros are upset or planning on leaving. This is all recent released statements and tweets from their channels, not to mention real life statements from my own progamer friends. Take it from someone who is actually here and know them personally, not just from watching them on streams.


Because according to him he is pretty close with some bw pro gamers and they have already disclose some distaste to the switch and retirement is actually an option for them if they don't like the transition.


LOL. So some guys claims all that and you just believe it without question? I'm sure he talks with Flash and co daily to gather their thoughts. We'll see soon how many just retire from being depressed. Also even if they do, there's a ton of b teamers and other people who didn't get the limelight who are loving the switch. They will replace anyone lost.

But what if it's a big name player that retires? What if it's Jaedong or Stork or even Flash that quits because he doesn't like the game? No amount of talented, up-and-coming B-teamers is going to replace those losses. The organizers are banking on the star-power of their top players and teams to help facilitate the transition, and losing anyone would be a huge blow to this transition.


It's possible but by name i think we know Flash will play SC2. The others probably will also. Not all but most i think. Also the best BW players may not be the best SC2 players. I know there's a ton of hype about Flash and all those and he has a good chance of being one of the best. But people just calm down just a bit, it will be a while before he's at the top GSL player level.

But it's initially not going to be a matter of how they perform but a matter of if their legion of fans will follow them in the transition despite how they perform. The big names have a big number of fans. If they severely underperform or quit, then what happens to those fans? SC2 needs all the Korean fans that it can get if it wants the transition to be successful. The organizers are hoping that fans of the players and teams will follow them through the transition to become fans of the actual game, so any hiccup in this process would be a huge blow. There is a ton of PR fluff going around, so we may never really know their true thoughts on SC2 other than through speculation and reading between the lines whenever they talk about it.


Read the article about the BW coaches talking about SC2:

http://notyuna.parkjiyeon.net/post/21468962777/sc2-discussion-with-kespa-progaming-team-coaches

It seems that players are enjoying playing SC2, some of them would have retired even if they had to keep playing BW.
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
May 02 2012 12:46 GMT
#270
On May 02 2012 21:31 vOdToasT wrote:
So Brood War will just be a game, and nothing more. I feel depressed. The last OSL will probably be crap, too, because the players will practice both games.

It's time for Teamliquid to change its slogan to "Proffessional StarCraft 2 news" because there won't be anymore proffessional StarCraft 1.

All I can hope for now is that Blizzard makes StarCraft 2 good with Legacy of the void. If they don't make it a good replacement for Brood War (Not the same, but equally good) then StarCraft has been mutilated forever.

Esports will never be legitimate with shit like this. I felt like we actually had a chance with StarCraft. It lasted for so many years, and became deeper the longer time went on, like Chess. Chess now compared to hundreds of years ago is so different. Imagine what StarCraft could have become if it had lasted as long.

But no, we had to change game again. Esports will always be regarded as a fucking joke compared to normal sports, and games like chess, as long as this is the way it operates, and unless StarCraft 2 becomes as good as StarCraft 1 with the last expansion, StarCraft 2 will eventually be replaced by another game as well. Hell, even if it does become good apparently that's not enough, as we saw with StarCraft 1. There will never be a stable esports industry like football or basketball.


starcraft 2 is "the" starcraft from now on ^_^ and is also the synonym of esport. there is a possiblity that sc2 is going to be replaced by something else, but that isn't really a concern atm.
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
May 02 2012 12:48 GMT
#271
Glad to hear that they're going to have english streams. I'm interested to see how they update their production values for the SC2 leagues. When OGN did SC2 for WCG didn't they still broadcast in 4:3 SD?
http://www.youtube.com/SCBattleGrounds
zazone
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:53:36
May 02 2012 12:50 GMT
#272
On May 02 2012 18:34 Apolo wrote:
Do people in other sports need licenses to be considered professional ?

where you've been living all this time...? Like most jobs, you require a licence/certification.
Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?-Adolf Hitler
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:54:40
May 02 2012 12:53 GMT
#273
On a sidenote; let's see how well lol fares now when some of the biggest companies within esports are promoting the same game. Any bets on just how fast SC2 will become bigger?

EDIT: regarding Broodwar, they have to have some kind of farewell cermony before they shut down Broodwar for good, would like to see that T.T
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
May 02 2012 12:57 GMT
#274
So it begins.
LayZRR
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany449 Posts
May 02 2012 12:59 GMT
#275
On May 02 2012 13:44 farvacola wrote:
And so it begins......


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


User was temp banned for this post.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
May 02 2012 13:01 GMT
#276
On May 02 2012 21:34 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:26 ne4aJIb wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:15 Gosi wrote:
Finally I can see korean casting in sc2.


I cannot wait to encounter the SC2 equivalent of PLAYYYYGUUUUUU!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
FUNGUUUUUUU!!!! ?


No, Moletrap will cast specially for all foreigners.

English casters is one of the worst part about this entire thing. I want the korean OGN commentators, damnit. >___________________<

You have to realise that only a very very small portion of the community (mostly bw fans) enjoys korean casting, it would be insane not to have english commentators.
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
May 02 2012 13:02 GMT
#277
WOOOOOOOOOOT!
Best day for sc2 in a long time !
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 13:09:00
May 02 2012 13:07 GMT
#278
On May 02 2012 21:31 vOdToasT wrote:
Esports will never be legitimate with shit like this. I felt like we actually had a chance with StarCraft. It lasted for so many years, and became deeper the longer time went on, like Chess. Chess now compared to hundreds of years ago is so different. Imagine what StarCraft could have become if it had lasted as long.

But no, we had to change game again. Esports will always be regarded as a fucking joke compared to normal sports, and games like chess, as long as this is the way it operates, and unless StarCraft 2 becomes as good as StarCraft 1 with the last expansion, StarCraft 2 will eventually be replaced by another game as well. Hell, even if it does become good apparently that's not enough, as we saw with StarCraft 1. There will never be a stable esports industry like football or basketball.

Yeah, I agree with this. Most people on this site have no idea how many proleagues have appeared and disappeared on OGN and MBC in the time since Starcraft became notable. Lots of games have just gone away. Anybody here still playing competitive Atrox?
FuRRyChoBo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States218 Posts
May 02 2012 13:09 GMT
#279
sc2 new kids, meet dogspa
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
May 02 2012 13:11 GMT
#280
On May 02 2012 21:46 HellionDrop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:31 vOdToasT wrote:
So Brood War will just be a game, and nothing more. I feel depressed. The last OSL will probably be crap, too, because the players will practice both games.

It's time for Teamliquid to change its slogan to "Proffessional StarCraft 2 news" because there won't be anymore proffessional StarCraft 1.

All I can hope for now is that Blizzard makes StarCraft 2 good with Legacy of the void. If they don't make it a good replacement for Brood War (Not the same, but equally good) then StarCraft has been mutilated forever.

Esports will never be legitimate with shit like this. I felt like we actually had a chance with StarCraft. It lasted for so many years, and became deeper the longer time went on, like Chess. Chess now compared to hundreds of years ago is so different. Imagine what StarCraft could have become if it had lasted as long.

But no, we had to change game again. Esports will always be regarded as a fucking joke compared to normal sports, and games like chess, as long as this is the way it operates, and unless StarCraft 2 becomes as good as StarCraft 1 with the last expansion, StarCraft 2 will eventually be replaced by another game as well. Hell, even if it does become good apparently that's not enough, as we saw with StarCraft 1. There will never be a stable esports industry like football or basketball.


starcraft 2 is "the" starcraft from now on ^_^ and is also the synonym of esport. there is a possiblity that sc2 is going to be replaced by something else, but that isn't really a concern atm.


yeah, it will be replaced for sure, but by SC3
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