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On May 02 2012 19:26 Rainfall7711 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 17:08 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 17:03 Siffer wrote:On May 02 2012 16:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 16:48 Nineball wrote:sCCrooked, I think the meaning is that when you come with such info, you should back it up yourself. Not make it someone else's work to find out if what you are saying is the truth or not  Actually it is right here ... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 and also articles about players retiring because they won't be able to keep up with the transition. So one player tweets that he finds sc2 boring and that automatically translates to 'a lot'? I can just as easily link a thread which quotes flash enjoying SC2 and label it as the majority. Obviously not every BW progamer is going to enjoy the switch. However, to say that they are all going to retire is just absolutely silly. I am not going to bother to find the articles for you because there were few articles which cover the aspect of transitioning to sc2 and the possibility of players retiring from the professional scene just because of the switch. That's because there were no such god damn articles. Provide facts or gtfo.
There is but I don't have time to post it for you . Lazy bum
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Well, never thought Id say it this so soon....
rip bw lucky it wont end immediately tho
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On May 02 2012 19:30 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 19:26 Rainfall7711 wrote:On May 02 2012 17:08 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 17:03 Siffer wrote:On May 02 2012 16:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 16:48 Nineball wrote:sCCrooked, I think the meaning is that when you come with such info, you should back it up yourself. Not make it someone else's work to find out if what you are saying is the truth or not Actually it is right here ... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 and also articles about players retiring because they won't be able to keep up with the transition. So one player tweets that he finds sc2 boring and that automatically translates to 'a lot'? I can just as easily link a thread which quotes flash enjoying SC2 and label it as the majority. Obviously not every BW progamer is going to enjoy the switch. However, to say that they are all going to retire is just absolutely silly. I am not going to bother to find the articles for you because there were few articles which cover the aspect of transitioning to sc2 and the possibility of players retiring from the professional scene just because of the switch. That's because there were no such god damn articles. Provide facts or gtfo. There is but I don't have time to post it for you . Lazy bum
Oh man, I remember those articles, but they're buried so deep within that closed SC2/BW rumors thread. Over 100 pages to sift through -_-
But it was mostly speculation about how apprehensive they were about a big wave of retirements and the possibility of fans not switching over. And a lot of other speculation that we already know about.
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Definitely hoping this work out for everyone and they manage to retain and increase the big corporate sponsors. As long as great players like Flash can continue as progamers I would be super happy. I feel that Kespa pick an excellent time to switch to give the best opportunity for their players to succeed at SC2, with HOTS coming out its almost a reset button for strategy and i cant wait to see some ass kicking
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wow that sounds sweet for korea and I am glad they decided to work together up there. Prefer how it is now though.
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On May 02 2012 19:30 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 19:26 Rainfall7711 wrote:On May 02 2012 17:08 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 17:03 Siffer wrote:On May 02 2012 16:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 16:48 Nineball wrote:sCCrooked, I think the meaning is that when you come with such info, you should back it up yourself. Not make it someone else's work to find out if what you are saying is the truth or not Actually it is right here ... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 and also articles about players retiring because they won't be able to keep up with the transition. So one player tweets that he finds sc2 boring and that automatically translates to 'a lot'? I can just as easily link a thread which quotes flash enjoying SC2 and label it as the majority. Obviously not every BW progamer is going to enjoy the switch. However, to say that they are all going to retire is just absolutely silly. I am not going to bother to find the articles for you because there were few articles which cover the aspect of transitioning to sc2 and the possibility of players retiring from the professional scene just because of the switch. That's because there were no such god damn articles. Provide facts or gtfo. There is but I don't have time to post it for you . Lazy bum
Claim something exists, won't provide links to it. Great argument you have there. I mean just do it? How hard is it? You have 0 credibility otherwise.
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On May 02 2012 19:44 Rainfall7711 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 19:30 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 19:26 Rainfall7711 wrote:On May 02 2012 17:08 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 17:03 Siffer wrote:On May 02 2012 16:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 16:48 Nineball wrote:sCCrooked, I think the meaning is that when you come with such info, you should back it up yourself. Not make it someone else's work to find out if what you are saying is the truth or not Actually it is right here ... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 and also articles about players retiring because they won't be able to keep up with the transition. So one player tweets that he finds sc2 boring and that automatically translates to 'a lot'? I can just as easily link a thread which quotes flash enjoying SC2 and label it as the majority. Obviously not every BW progamer is going to enjoy the switch. However, to say that they are all going to retire is just absolutely silly. I am not going to bother to find the articles for you because there were few articles which cover the aspect of transitioning to sc2 and the possibility of players retiring from the professional scene just because of the switch. That's because there were no such god damn articles. Provide facts or gtfo. There is but I don't have time to post it for you . Lazy bum Claim something exists, won't provide links to it. Great argument you have there. I mean just do it? How hard is it? You have 0 credibility otherwise.
Here is one of the articles of you're so eager for proof:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323013¤tpage=77#1540
Again, it's mostly speculation, but it makes logical sense.
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I almost forgot about this announcement, reading this makes me sooooooooooo happy! Can't wait to see what happens
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So everything is finally coming together this year!
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On May 02 2012 19:46 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 19:44 Rainfall7711 wrote:On May 02 2012 19:30 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 19:26 Rainfall7711 wrote:On May 02 2012 17:08 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 17:03 Siffer wrote:On May 02 2012 16:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 16:48 Nineball wrote:sCCrooked, I think the meaning is that when you come with such info, you should back it up yourself. Not make it someone else's work to find out if what you are saying is the truth or not Actually it is right here ... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 and also articles about players retiring because they won't be able to keep up with the transition. So one player tweets that he finds sc2 boring and that automatically translates to 'a lot'? I can just as easily link a thread which quotes flash enjoying SC2 and label it as the majority. Obviously not every BW progamer is going to enjoy the switch. However, to say that they are all going to retire is just absolutely silly. I am not going to bother to find the articles for you because there were few articles which cover the aspect of transitioning to sc2 and the possibility of players retiring from the professional scene just because of the switch. That's because there were no such god damn articles. Provide facts or gtfo. There is but I don't have time to post it for you . Lazy bum Claim something exists, won't provide links to it. Great argument you have there. I mean just do it? How hard is it? You have 0 credibility otherwise. Here is one of the articles of you're so eager for proof: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323013¤tpage=77#1540Again, it's mostly speculation, but it makes logical sense.
I've read all of these articles about the switch and no where does it say the majority of BW pros are depressed and unhappy about it. Nowhere does it say they're all going to quit either.
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The end of an era has come.
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I'm so freaking excited for this man.
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thanks for the summary, hope everything works out fine
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On May 02 2012 19:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 19:46 eviltomahawk wrote:On May 02 2012 19:44 Rainfall7711 wrote:On May 02 2012 19:30 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 19:26 Rainfall7711 wrote:On May 02 2012 17:08 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 17:03 Siffer wrote:On May 02 2012 16:53 Sawamura wrote:On May 02 2012 16:48 Nineball wrote:sCCrooked, I think the meaning is that when you come with such info, you should back it up yourself. Not make it someone else's work to find out if what you are saying is the truth or not Actually it is right here ... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 and also articles about players retiring because they won't be able to keep up with the transition. So one player tweets that he finds sc2 boring and that automatically translates to 'a lot'? I can just as easily link a thread which quotes flash enjoying SC2 and label it as the majority. Obviously not every BW progamer is going to enjoy the switch. However, to say that they are all going to retire is just absolutely silly. I am not going to bother to find the articles for you because there were few articles which cover the aspect of transitioning to sc2 and the possibility of players retiring from the professional scene just because of the switch. That's because there were no such god damn articles. Provide facts or gtfo. There is but I don't have time to post it for you . Lazy bum Claim something exists, won't provide links to it. Great argument you have there. I mean just do it? How hard is it? You have 0 credibility otherwise. Here is one of the articles of you're so eager for proof: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323013¤tpage=77#1540Again, it's mostly speculation, but it makes logical sense. I've read all of these articles about the switch and no where does it say the majority of BW pros are depressed and unhappy about it. Nowhere does it say they're all going to quit either.
That you have got to ask this guy ..
On May 02 2012 16:40 sCCrooked wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 16:35 Siffer wrote:On May 02 2012 16:29 sCCrooked wrote:On May 02 2012 16:13 Snowbear wrote:
People tend to forget that SC2 games are getting better and better. Some games even provide a BW-feeling. There's so many people who would flat-out disagree with that second part, its not funny. You should hear what the BW pros said about sc2 and how many of them are incredibly depressed at this news, and even more are leaving esports altogether. Korea is going to keep rejecting this sad excuse for a successor no matter how much Blizzard/GOM try to shove it on us. Take off your blinders. SC2 is evolving into quite a good game. Games were very boring and unimaginative during beta/early release; however, we are starting to see more and more complex games at the highest level. What are BW pros currently saying about SC2? I am not interested in what they had to say during beta. What are they saying now that they are playing and practicing the game? I know that Flash, for example, is actually taking a liking to SC2. Uh... Not really. A large majority of BW pros are upset or planning on leaving. This is all recent released statements and tweets from their channels, not to mention real life statements from my own progamer friends. Take it from someone who is actually here and know them personally, not just from watching them on streams.
Because according to him he is pretty close with some bw pro gamers and they have already disclose some distaste to the switch and retirement is actually an option for them if they don't like the transition.
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I wonder who the OGN English casters will be for SC2? Maybe Wolf and Khaldor decide to make a jump to it. It would be great for their careers.
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On May 02 2012 19:58 WArped wrote:
I wonder who the OGN English casters will be for SC2? Maybe Wolf and Khaldor decide to make a jump to it. It would be great for their careers.
Or Moletrap and Torch who are already over at SC2 casting LoL. Plus, both have experience with SC2, Moletrap as a caster and Torch as a manager and former player.
But if they cooperate with GOM, maybe seeing Tastosis or Wolf-dor might be a possibility.
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awesome
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And so The beginning of the end begins
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EPT
