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Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
May 02 2012 08:56 GMT
#181
Holy crap this is going to be so awesome, I cannot fucking wait until we see BW pro's in foreign tournaments.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
May 02 2012 08:59 GMT
#182
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.
moo...for DRG
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
May 02 2012 08:59 GMT
#183
The part about having to "say goodbye" made me tear up a bit, but I'm really excited for this stage of SC2's life. Man, I was watching season 1 games yesterday and wondering "how did I keep myself up all night with this?!"
Waffles > Pancakes
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 09:01:33
May 02 2012 09:01 GMT
#184
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.

it means you are good enough 2 be on a team/play in the league. if they are good enough get the license. whats the problem?
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
May 02 2012 09:02 GMT
#185
I'm sorry but I don't there can be any good format with both BW and SC2 in the same competition...
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
May 02 2012 09:03 GMT
#186
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.

as long as it can keep people from making blogs about them going pro, im all for licenses.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Omnidroid
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand214 Posts
May 02 2012 09:03 GMT
#187
Wow, lets hope that Esports can only flourish from now on.
Wonder how they'll sort out some foreseeable issues like pro-gaming licences.
Blizzard should have a lot of experienced players to get advice from now, for developing HotS, they better make good use of it.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
May 02 2012 09:05 GMT
#188
On May 02 2012 18:01 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.

it means you are good enough 2 be on a team/play in the league. if they are good enough get the license. whats the problem?


There is a fear that the license system is similar to literacy tests used to keep voters out in American history. In similar cases, I have heard that it was difficult for foreigners to obtain a license for broodwars. What's to stop KeSPA from not granting someone a license just because they don't feel like it?

The point is, pro-gamers don't need a license to play. GSL has been running almost 2 years now without licenses for gamers...works just fine.
moo...for DRG
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51705 Posts
May 02 2012 09:05 GMT
#189
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.


quality control and IIRC, licensed progamers get tax breaks from prize winnings
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
May 02 2012 09:06 GMT
#190
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.


it stops random scrubs pretending they're pro because they somehow got into GM.

the term "pro" in korea has a strong connotation of official status. having a regulating body is ultimately good for the scene in general. the GSL is regulated by GOM rules and regulations, and the tournament for getting into code A is akin to the courage tournaments (where pro/semi-pro licenses could be won).
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
May 02 2012 09:07 GMT
#191
On May 02 2012 18:05 neoghaleon55 wrote:

The point is, pro-gamers don't need a license to play. GSL has been running almost 2 years now without licenses for gamers...works just fine.


the code A tournament, for all intents and purposes, serves the same purpose as a license.

once you get into code A, you start accumulating GSL points, and you begin to be regulated by GOM's official rule system.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Frail
Profile Joined October 2010
Iceland336 Posts
May 02 2012 09:08 GMT
#192
Let's do this!
Whargarbl
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
May 02 2012 09:11 GMT
#193
On May 02 2012 16:00 julianto wrote:
I want incontrol and day9 to cast. They are the funniest people on SotG.


Day9 Isn't a part of SOTG anymore. He either has the wrong time slot or can't be bothered.
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 09:13:44
May 02 2012 09:13 GMT
#194
On May 02 2012 18:05 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 18:01 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.

it means you are good enough 2 be on a team/play in the league. if they are good enough get the license. whats the problem?


There is a fear that the license system is similar to literacy tests used to keep voters out in American history. In similar cases, I have heard that it was difficult for foreigners to obtain a license for broodwars. What's to stop KeSPA from not granting someone a license just because they don't feel like it?

The point is, pro-gamers don't need a license to play. GSL has been running almost 2 years now without licenses for gamers...works just fine.

so let them play GSL. but if they want 2 play in a KeSPA league get the license.

and no KeSPA didnt make it hard for foreigners 2 get a license. Foreigners just suck. they even gave idra a license cause he was 2 bad 2 win one.

on the other hand u have guys like desrow or whatever calling themselves pro.
kahuynon712
Profile Joined June 2011
66 Posts
May 02 2012 09:14 GMT
#195
I hope Grubby will cast the english stream...
Everything will be OK in the end, if its not OK, then its not yet the end.
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1323 Posts
May 02 2012 09:23 GMT
#196
This is it, no more speculation.
FUCK YES.
nope
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 09:36:19
May 02 2012 09:33 GMT
#197
On May 02 2012 18:05 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 18:01 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.

it means you are good enough 2 be on a team/play in the league. if they are good enough get the license. whats the problem?


There is a fear that the license system is similar to literacy tests used to keep voters out in American history. In similar cases, I have heard that it was difficult for foreigners to obtain a license for broodwars. What's to stop KeSPA from not granting someone a license just because they don't feel like it?

The point is, pro-gamers don't need a license to play. GSL has been running almost 2 years now without licenses for gamers...works just fine.


because that's not how it works..... you win courage, you get a license.

if you're not good enough to win courage teams have a certain amount of licenses they can give out a year to people they think are deserving. it's difficult for foreigners to get a license because courage is fucking impossible. jaedong had to try like 8 times or something ridiculous. that didn't stop assem or legionnaire from winning courage, or idra from being given a license by estro.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5890 Posts
May 02 2012 09:34 GMT
#198
On May 02 2012 17:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 17:56 rasers wrote:
On May 02 2012 17:52 neoghaleon55 wrote:
could someone remind me why KeSPA requires pro-gamers to have a license to game?
They're trying to get GSL players to get a license, too?

It sounds like a method of control to me...
sorry, but many foreign fans such as myself still have huge mistrust with KeSPA.
I am hoping this view will change with time.

Probably was a miss-opportunity for them today to NOT talk about how important the foreign scene is and how much they want to be a part of it.

yup. remove progamer license. so you dont have progamers anymore and make it less professionell. woho



a license means absolutely nothing.
You license someone to drive a car because it's dangerous to have untrained motorists.
There are absolutely no risks to having an untrained gamer.

Refresh me if you understand this better, but I do not see the point.


Having a progamer license meant massive tax cuts when it comes to winnings. It ensured that random scrubs don't have the same priviliges as trained professionals. The tax regulations have changed since then, though.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
May 02 2012 09:34 GMT
#199
Do people in other sports need licenses to be considered professional ?
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
May 02 2012 09:36 GMT
#200
On May 02 2012 16:29 sCCrooked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 16:13 Snowbear wrote:
People tend to forget that SC2 games are getting better and better. Some games even provide a BW-feeling.


There's so many people who would flat-out disagree with that second part, its not funny. You should hear what the BW pros said about sc2 and how many of them are incredibly depressed at this news, and even more are leaving esports altogether. Korea is going to keep rejecting this sad excuse for a successor no matter how much Blizzard/GOM try to shove it on us.


Care to provide a source for that? Back it up. I can't remember any news where a lot of them are depressed. What about the one about how Flash was enjoying it? Everyone ignores those right ?
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